From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 77 Date: 5/19/2004 7:22:54 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: engine update (larry severson) 2. Van's RV scoop (John Bouyea) 3. RE: RE: KR> Corvair engines (Kevin Angus) 4. Re: Alternator/ Solar Power (Phillip Matheson) 5. Re: Alternator/ Solar Power (Dan Heath) 6. Re: Larger KR Flaps / air brakes (Skyguyfly2@aol.com) 7. Re: Larger KR Flaps / air brakes (Mark Langford) 8. Re: Larger KR Flaps / air brakes (Ameet Savant) 9. RE:Blasters & Corvairs (Scott Cable) 10. Re: Larger KR Flaps / air brakes (Mark Langford) 11. RE: RE:Blasters & Corvairs (Kevin Angus) 12. wing stub tanks (Don Woodyatt) 13. RE: RE:Blasters & Corvairs (Scott Cable) 14. Re: wing stub tanks (Mark Langford) 15. Re: Larger KR Flaps / air brakes (Les Criscillo) 16. Short Landings! (flyKRS@netscape.net) 17. Speed brake (Colin & Bev Rainey) 18. Re: Short Landings! (FIXERJONES@aol.com) 19. Re: Short Landings! (Orma) 20. Re: Short Landings! (Mark Langford) 21. Engine Buildup (Orma) 22. Re: Barrel Shims & SCAT Split Heads (Scott Cable) 23. KR2 For Sale (B109pro@aol.com) 24. KR-1 (Stephen and Janet Henderson) 25. Re: Barrel Shims & SCAT Split Heads (Orma) 26. RE: Speed brake (Brian Kraut) 27. Re: Barrel Shims & SCAT Split Heads (Mark Langford) 28. Re: Engine and cowling (Mark Langford) 29. RE: Engine and cowling/bent spars (Brian Kraut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:09:16 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> engine update To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040518210712.03140a68@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Note: this engine, plenum, Is there any specific height above the cylinders that the plenum needs to have for proper cooling aIr flow? 1", 4"??? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 21:29:47 -0700 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR> Van's RV scoop To: "KRNet" Message-ID: <004201c43d59$eb148230$a800a8c0@dell4600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark is correct. I forgot who pointed Van's out as a source for this part. I think it is going to work out well. The scoop is one of 4 or 6 they sell. I brought the bottom cowl I molded to Van's and we took it up to the warehouse and tried them all out. This particular one seemed to fit best. I work on the Aurora State Airport where Van's is located. I stopped by there at lunch today for some AN3 hardware. John Bouyea KR2 - hanging the engine accessories KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters john_0310@bouyea.net www.bouyea.net Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:05:43 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Building my cowl mold To: "KRnet" Joe, I may be wrong, but that scoop looks like a Van's RV scoop which Dana Overall introduced us to. I actually ordered one and had it here but returned it because I decided not to use it. Here is the link. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:49:49 -0600 From: "Kevin Angus" Subject: RE: RE: KR> Corvair engines To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The key phrase being "My son and I". The good news; while shopping at Costco I ran into a cart with a 2 ton folding engine hoist that included the balance beam, seems this was the last one and marked down, they are not planning on ordering more. Weird how that worked out.... Now to find a sandblaster :) Kevin Angus -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+kangus=talkcycle.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+kangus=talkcycle.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of skphil@charter.net Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 5:06 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: RE: KR> Corvair engines Kevin wrote. > Next step: Sandblaster! (and a lift to get the motors out of my > enclosed trailer!). My son and I lifted ours out of the truck by hand and set it on an engine stand. Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Alabama _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:28:41 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Alternator/ Solar Power To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008701c43d6a$87905f70$5e97dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To my way of thinking, although a great idea, wouldn't it have an adverse affect on the GPS antenna? Since I plan of using internal antennas in the -------------------------------- Doug. Yes, But the postion was not really important, just the idea of a battery charge while the plane is parked. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:03:08 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Alternator/ Solar Power To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40AB30DC.00000E.03388@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Think about how much time, effort, and money, it is going to cost you. Then think about the amount of time you are going to leave your KR parked out in the sun. Then think about how much benefit you are going to get from all of this. That should give you the answer There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 09:12:00 EDT From: Skyguyfly2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Larger KR Flaps / air brakes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1ee.20f58cd9.2ddcb720@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" What is the difference between flaps and speed brakes? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:31:23 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Larger KR Flaps / air brakes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <020401c43da5$9775e280$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The question has been asked "what do the holes do for you". If I hadn't just asked an aero engineer that I have a LOT of respect for, I'd have said "they increase drag due to the turbulence created in their wake". But he assures me they DON'T. So why do they have holes then? He says it's to alleviate any aerodynamic fluctuations (vibration) and to reduce the lift. Say's it probably started with the Avenger, because the drag brake configuration yielded more lift than they wanted, so they put holes in them to eliminate the lift. That same logic probably applies to the KR. Lift while in ground effect is not something you need any more of. As for what's the difference in a flap and a drag brake, a flap is designed to give more lift so you can land slower, while a drag brake is designed to give you a lot of drag to slow you down and steepen your glide path. A "split" flap gives you some of both. Sounds like some testing is in order. One of you belly flap guys could temporarily cover up the holes and see what difference it makes, if you reallly want to know... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:45:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Ameet Savant Subject: Re: KR> Larger KR Flaps / air brakes To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040519134541.91943.qmail@web60809.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think the holes reduce the required structural strength of the speed brake structure/assembly/actuation mechanism. Plugging the holes without a thought to reinforcing the structure to handle the increased air loads may not be a good idea. Ameet Savant ameetsavant at yahoo com > Sounds like some testing is in order. One of you > belly flap guys could > temporarily cover up the holes and see what > difference it makes, if you > reallly want to know... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:45:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: KR> RE:Blasters & Corvairs To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040519134551.36152.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Kevin Angus wrote: > Now to find a sandblaster :) Here's a nice one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47603 If the link doesn't work, search for Blasters in www.harborfreight.com This is the one I own, works great. A word of caution however: William Wynne does not recommend sand blasting in the combustion chambers. Valvoline SuperClean, is a superior product that makes short work of that process (cleaning the combustion chambers). ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:52:19 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Larger KR Flaps / air brakes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <022001c43da8$83761310$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ameet Savant wrote: > Plugging the > holes without a thought to reinforcing the structure > to handle the increased air loads may not be a good > idea. That would be assuming that some thought went into the thing in the first place. I doubt most KR builders have done a dynamic pressure and structural analysis on the supports. They just make sure it's beefy enough. That's a valid point though... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:07:56 -0600 From: "Kevin Angus" Subject: RE: KR> RE:Blasters & Corvairs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kr'ers must be of like mind sets, that is the one I tried to get from my local Harbor Freight but ended up ordering it online. How big (HP/Gallons/CFM) is your compressor? Kevin Angus -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Scott Cable Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:46 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> RE:Blasters & Corvairs --- Kevin Angus wrote: > Now to find a sandblaster :) Here's a nice one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47603 If the link doesn't work, search for Blasters in www.harborfreight.com This is the one I own, works great. A word of caution however: William Wynne does not recommend sand blasting in the combustion chambers. Valvoline SuperClean, is a superior product that makes short work of that process (cleaning the combustion chambers). ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:16:46 -0500 From: Don Woodyatt Subject: KR> wing stub tanks To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <40AB7A5E.6040603@illicom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed All. I'm interested in stub tanks. Did a search and didn't come up with much info. Could somebody with stub tanks supply me with more info such as design, material, capacity, venting, baffeling, photos? Help would be appreciated as I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Woody woody@illicom.net KR2S# 658 Buckley, IL to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.htm ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: RE: KR> RE:Blasters & Corvairs To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040519155222.26418.qmail@web40801.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got that Craftsman 5 hp 30 gal tank. Don't remember the CFM, but, it barely keeps up. However, it is about 8 years old,and takes quite awhile to get up to 125 psi. Not knocking it at all, it's just getting up there in age. It's been well used over the last 8 or so years, prepped and painted numerous cars and trucks runs all of my air tools to repair cars etc. I'll be in the market for a 220v 100 gal 175 psi unit in the near future... I plan on building an enclosure to house the big compressor so it won't take up shop floor space. Here are a couple of tips when using / assembling your Sandblast cabinet: 1.) Use an air/oil separator and filter/dryer for your sand blaster. If you don't, the moisture will clog up the nozzle. 2.) Don't use silica sand, use glass beads instead. The silica sand (white) creates a very toxic environment, which causes cancer. Glass Beads are available through Tractor Supply Co. (TSC) and also through Harbor Freight. 3.)I used a spare K & N filter from my Kart racing days, and attached it to the back of the cabinet to draw fresh air into. I attach my shop-vac to the opposite side to draw the dust out of the cabinet. You absolutely must do this, as the dust builds immediately. If you don't filter the incoming air, then you'll end up with sandblast dust covering everything in your shop.(don't ask me how I know this)! If you don't evacuate the cabinet, you'll be working blind.(don't ask me how I know this either). I'll most likely be adding onto the compressor "house" to house the shopvac, to cut douwn on the noise and dust. You could alternatively just place your shopvac outside while using your blast cabinet to achieve the same results. 4.)Seal the lightswitch housing with RTV during assembly. This will prevent dust particles from entering the switch and preventing the contacts from touching, which prevents the light from coming on. (don't ask me how I know this). 5.) Sometimes the light just isn't enough to illuminate the area you're working on. Battery operated, mini-flouresent lights, sealed in a ziplok bag work really nice. (cheap too). --- Kevin Angus wrote: > That is the one I tried to get from my local Harbor Freight but ended up ordering it online. How big (HP/Gallons/CFM) is your compressor? ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:58:43 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> wing stub tanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <023901c43dba$298240b0$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Woody wrote: > I'm interested in stub tanks. Did a search and didn't come up with > much info. Could somebody with stub tanks supply me with more info > such as design, material, capacity, venting, baffeling, photos? Try http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/wingtank.html . There might be something there... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:09:17 -0400 From: "Les Criscillo" Subject: Re: KR> Larger KR Flaps / air brakes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015901c43dc4$04fb5100$0300a8c0@your1rnfg39627> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Flaps produce lift and drag, slowing down approach speeds and increasing your angle of decent for any given airspeed. Airbrakes provide drag, but no change in lift, so you maintain the same speeds during your approach, but with the higher drag coefficient, you have a higher sink rate and don't float as far. Les Criscillo Lcriscil@tamabay.rr.com http://groups.msn.com/LesLifeandfriends/homepage ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: Re: KR> Larger KR Flaps / air brakes > What is the difference between flaps and speed brakes? > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:42:09 -0400 From: flyKRS@netscape.net Subject: KR> Short Landings! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <0CC3427C.0C6C93ED.0006291F@netscape.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The prolonged discussion of speed brakes and flap types is lenghty. Remember the olde runway selection concept of (DON"T LAND THERE IF YOU CAN"T TAKEOFF FROM THERE). The KR is originally a low drag low energy design with a shallow climbout until faster speed is achieved. Landing a low drag KR with all the "POTENTIAL ENERGY" is the object of these various devices being discussed. DRAGSTER RACE CARS use drag chutes quite effectively. DRAG RACING all happens from 0-200+ and back to zero mph within 2,000 ft. Knowing that the drag chute is the major device to slow it down at greater than 1 g force really makes that a desireable feature. Imagine your on final approach wheel landing, trigger the drag chute on your KR and be stopped within 400 ft of touch down on a high density altitude day. Now thats performance! The 1080 refueling stores on the KC707 wingtip mounted refueling unit uses a drag chute to stabilize the fuel hose coupler and "fly it" at an ideal position beneath vortex flow for the eaze of the refueling AC to connect. I did some design improvements on this drag chute. If a KR had a deployable/retractable tube mounted drag chute mounted beneath the rudder travel region anchored for load path to fuselage longerons. I think that a 3 ft chute with multiple vents could be spring deployed and slow a KR to a turtle trot in a jiffy! The pilot could retract the chute via a small cord in the cockpit even in flight. Any comments would be appreciated! Bryce KR builder/owner __________________________________________________________________ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:04:32 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Speed brake To: Message-ID: <009601c43dcb$bd3132b0$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark That is very interesting about the supplemental lift provided by the speed brake unintentionally as it is deployed for landing. My brake is solid, hinged even with the face of the rear spar, and has a 25 degree, and 45 degree notches in the brake actuator handle. Hopefully the inspection will happen here very soon (application sent to the FSDO waiting for response), and during the test period I will add testing a "short field" take off procedure and measure whether the use of the brake in the 25 degree setting produces enough lift to help with the takeoff, vs. the drag incurred. It stands to reason with me that if it makes it harder to land without holes, then without holes it should also help shorten the takeoff as well. The different Cessna's and some Pipers use their lowest flap settings for this short field takeoff and climb. If the lift from my brake is significant enough it should accomplish the same results. I think I will test it at altitude first, and note the time to climb with and with out the brake vs. distance on the GPS, and also check the liftoff with and without on the same runway. Should be interesting..... I am like a kid waiting for Christmas now! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:12:48 EDT From: FIXERJONES@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Short Landings! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1e1.20fd5e0a.2ddd19c0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ok you dragshute in,, now how do you get out? ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:41:52 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Short Landings! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004201c43dea$1994cbc0$f322d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "If a KR had a deployable/retractable tube mounted drag chute" And if the KR had a tail hook, we could drop in on carriers. PS Thanks, I needed a good laugh!!! Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Soon to celebrate 20 years ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:03:22 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Short Landings! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <14ab01c43ded$1e103a60$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > ok you dragshute in,, now how do you get out? JATO bottles, no doubt... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 18:35:49 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: KR> Engine Buildup To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006301c43df1$a3671130$f322d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is an update to my engine buildup. The case is now together, and the flywheel is attached. This afternoon I delivered the assembly to the welder along with my VolksPower case and Subaru starter. He is building the adapter which will allow the use of that particular starter. While the case is out to the shop, I will start the process of CC-ing the heads. I did manage to find some really cheap equipment for the measurements. The local Rite Aid Drug Store had several items which I will use. The first was a 10 cc syringe for the high price of $1.98 and in the pharmacy I acquired a 5 cc spoon and also a 3 cc syringe complete with hypo for the grand total of $.35. When the work on the Acc Case if finished I will complete the CC process and then it's off to the exhaust maker for some custom work for the turbo. Help!! I now need a source for 103 mm barrel shims. It has been recommended to me to use a copper shim at the top of the barrel because of the extra heat of the turbo. ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> Barrel Shims & SCAT Split Heads To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040520000211.70165.qmail@web40812.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Orma wrote: > Help!! I now need a source for 103 mm barrel shims. > It has been recommended to me to use a copper shim > at the top of the barrel because of the extra heat > of the turbo. Orma (Lee), Try: http://www.scatvw.com/ They have 103 mm copper shims for the VW Type 4. Call them if you can't find what you need. Their numbers are listed on the website. Did you hear about their new "split head"? It's an individual head (L & R) that is for one cylinder only. Complete with individual rocker shafts and valve covers. Download their .pdf formated catalog and check-out pages 36 & 37. Hmmmm, take the tall Webers off and put an aero carburator below it.... Oh Baby, can you think of the possibilities? ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:32:52 -0400 From: B109pro@aol.com Subject: KR> KR2 For Sale To: KRnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <23F7D9C0.28F1A0AA.0012B115@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm forced to sell my KR2. It is in an almost finished boat, sitting on Cleveland Wheels and Matco Disc brakes and master cylinders and pedals. Control stick is built along w/ bellcranks and pulleys, Electric trim tabs, electric speed brake. Many mods have been made to this KR2, it is different, alot of the hiccups have been removed or improved upon, the person that finishs this project will be one proud puppy! The list of things done and parts are more numerous than I care to go into at this time, if you are serious, please call, email, or just come by! I'm asking $1000.00 obo..... call after 6pm @ 727 823 3670. Pictures were on EAA47.com website (Skip's project), but have been having trouble with the site, but please try anyway. Blue skies to All ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:41:44 -0400 From: "Stephen and Janet Henderson" Subject: KR> KR-1 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c601c43e03$39d7bb40$02218585@host02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello everyone, I am currently building a KR-1 and I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find any web pages containing pictures of other peoples KR-1's being built. I have no problem finding an enormous amount of KR-2 building pictures but finding any picures of KR-1's in the building process is pretty difficult. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Steve Henderson ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:20:43 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Barrel Shims & SCAT Split Heads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008201c43e08$ac7d9bb0$f322d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Scott I got my new cam from Scat. I'll call them on the copper shims. It was not in the catalog. I have not heard good things from their split heads!!! How's the project coming along. I hope to be back in the air by mid June. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Soon to celebrate 20 years ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 21:38:38 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Speed brake To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would be very surprised if the belly board did anything to the climb other than to reduce it, but worth taking a look at at altitude. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:05 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Speed brake Mark That is very interesting about the supplemental lift provided by the speed brake unintentionally as it is deployed for landing. My brake is solid, hinged even with the face of the rear spar, and has a 25 degree, and 45 degree notches in the brake actuator handle. Hopefully the inspection will happen here very soon (application sent to the FSDO waiting for response), and during the test period I will add testing a "short field" take off procedure and measure whether the use of the brake in the 25 degree setting produces enough lift to help with the takeoff, vs. the drag incurred. It stands to reason with me that if it makes it harder to land without holes, then without holes it should also help shorten the takeoff as well. The different Cessna's and some Pipers use their lowest flap settings for this short field takeoff and climb. If the lift from my brake is significant enough it should accomplish the same results. I think I will test it at altitude first, and note the time to climb with and with out the brake vs. distance on the GPS, and also check the liftoff with and without on the same runway. Should be interesting..... I am like a kid waiting for Christmas now! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 19:37:54 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Barrel Shims & SCAT Split Heads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <154701c43e02$b0d43350$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Scott Cable wrote: > Did you hear about their new "split head"? It's an individual head (L > & R) that is for one cylinder only. Maybe they have something "newer", but they've been making individual VW heads for probably thirty years. They have a poor reputation for valve life and oil leaks, however. Just looking at them reveals what I would think would be insufficient fin area. Robust enough for high compression drag engines running a few seconds at a time, but not something I'd want to fly behind at high power settings for very long. No personal experience with them, but I've heard and read a lot of stories from people who know... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 20:24:11 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Engine and cowling To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <013901c43e09$27e05ea0$2402a8c0@800Athlon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Brian Kraut wrote: > Can anyone tell me if a Corvair fits in the normal > Rand cowl or should I sell the cowl and start from scratch? There might be something helpful at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/mount_fit.html or http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cowling.html . Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 22:22:04 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Engine and cowling/bent spars To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks. You just need to have an auto-reply from the list that directs people to your site for any question! You mentioned a little bit ago, and I was reminded on that page, that you would do a bent spar if you did another one. I have been thinking about that also and was wondering how you would get the bent spar into the fusalage. Did you come up with some clever way of getting a bent spar into the spar holes with the plywood already installed or would you put in the spar and then ply the sides? It is like one of those Chinese bent nail puzzles trying to figure out how to get a built bent spar in the holes. I realize that the answer is probably already on your site, somewhere... Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:24 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Engine and cowling Brian Kraut wrote: > Can anyone tell me if a Corvair fits in the normal > Rand cowl or should I sell the cowl and start from scratch? There might be something helpful at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/mount_fit.html or http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/cowling.html . Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 77 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================