From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 8 Date: 3/30/2004 4:22:20 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. O T (M83benz1@cs.com) 2. Re: O T (gleone) 3. KR2 on EBay (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 4. Re: O T (Bob Stone) 5. Re: O T (David Mikesell) 6. Re: O T (Virgil Salisbury) 7. Re: sun-n-fun dinner (Virgil Salisbury) 8. KR2 on EBay (John Bouyea) 9. Staple Size (Stowers) 10. Re: Staple Size (Mark Langford) 11. Re: Staple Size (Stowers) 12. Sun-n-fun dinner (skphil@charter.net) 13. RE: Staple Size (Wood, Sidney M.) 14. Re: Staple Size (Mark Langford) 15. Re: Sun-n-fun dinner (Virgil Salisbury) 16. Re: Staple Size (Virgil Salisbury) 17. Re: Staple Size (idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net) 18. RE: Staple Size (Stephen Jacobs) 19. Re: Staple Size (idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net) 20. Re: EJ 22 engine mount (James Wester) 21. RE: Staple Size (Stephen Jacobs) 22. 4130 tubing (Dene Collett (SA)) 23. Re: Standards (Phillip Matheson) 24. Re: Standards (Mark Langford) 25. Re: 6061-T6 T-bar (Mark Jones) 26. RE: 4130 tubing (Brian Kraut) 27. Re: O T (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:55:34 EST From: M83benz1@cs.com Subject: KR> O T To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <156.313f6e0c.2d990646@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Can any one tell what price a KR1 should sell for? Is the KR1 another BD5. 30 years in the making and unable to fly? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:52:12 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: Re: KR> O T To: Message-ID: <40682A0C.000001.04012@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm building a KR-1 and there are others flying. As for what they should sell for depends on where it's at in construction, what comes with it and wether or not the toad you sacrificed was really virgin. Pricing is subjective: Sellers think it's worth more than buyers are willing to pay. That having been said, I bought a KR-1 kit on eBay for $1551. A week later, I bought a ground looped KR-2 COMPLETE for $1000. Another KR-netter wanted the wings so I sold him those for $150. I'm using most of the '2 to build the KR-1 including the Diehl fixed gear, Cleveland wheels and brakes, HAPI engine and mount, instruments, etc. As for the BD-5. . .I had a very bad experience with the original company under jim bede O T Can any one tell what price a KR1 should sell for? Is the KR1 another BD5. 30 years in the making and unable to fly? _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:30:37 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: KR> KR2 on EBay To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c415a2$c97f60b0$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Checked eBay this morning and found there is a KR2 located in Oregon listed. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2470504290&category=63677 Bud Midkiff KR2S Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:18:23 -0600 From: "Bob Stone" Subject: Re: KR> O T To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c415ba$38f99e80$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The KR-l is a very high performance aircraft and nothing like the BD5. The value of one is arrived t by considering many factors such as age, quality of construction, type power, instruments, radios, and appearance, etc. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:55 PM Subject: KR> O T > Can any one tell what price a KR1 should sell for? Is the KR1 another > BD5. 30 > years in the making and unable to fly? > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:30:28 -0800 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: KR> O T To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c415bb$e95efa80$03fea8c0@davids> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" BD-5's are able to fly and they do it very well in the hands of a properly trained pilot. I have flown 2 different BD-5s and loved it. The KR1 is a great little airplane just make sure you are current on tail wheel before flying. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Stone" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: KR> O T > The KR-l is a very high performance aircraft and nothing like the BD5. > The value of one is arrived t by considering many factors such as age, > quality of construction, type power, instruments, radios, and > appearance, etc. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:55 PM > Subject: KR> O T > > > > Can any one tell what price a KR1 should sell for? Is the KR1 > > another BD5. > 30 > > years in the making and unable to fly? > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:43:21 -0500 From: Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR> O T To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040329.144810.3116.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii BITE your toungh, Virg On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:55:34 EST M83benz1@cs.com writes: > Can any one tell what price a KR1 should sell for? Is the KR1 another > BD5. 30 > years in the making and unable to fly? > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:37:48 -0500 From: Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR> sun-n-fun dinner To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040329.144810.3116.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii mEET AT THE kR fORUM AND gREAT pLANES BOOTH. See previous msg, Virg On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 1:45:48 +0000 writes: > My schedule is getting booked. Where is the dinner? When is the > dinner? and, I am camping at sun-n-fun. Where can I meet some of you > KR people? > > Steven Phillabaum > Auburn, Alabama > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:01:37 -0800 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR> KR2 on EBay To: "KRNet" Message-ID: <000201c415fa$ef951a30$0201a8c0@dell4600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I made an appointment to see it tomorrow morning. I'll take photos and report back to the group with what I find. From what I've heard, the nose gear folded, busted the prop and hasn't been airborne since. John Bouyea KR2 - hanging the engine accessories KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters john_0310@bouyea.net www.bouyea.net From: Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:34:57 Checked eBay this morning and found there is a KR2 located in Oregon listed. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2470504290 &category=63677 Bud Midkiff KR2S Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:42:01 -0600 From: "Stowers" Subject: KR> Staple Size To: "krnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What is the best size staples to use to skin the boat? Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s flynredneck@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:51:58 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <04ea01c41601$f8712700$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jerry Stowers wrote: > What is the best size staples to use to skin the boat? I don't know about "best", but I used 5/16", and have no complaints. Don't forget to staple over a nylon cord for easier removal, or even nylon strapping, I've heard, works well for that purpose too. You don't want to have to pry those things out with a screwdriver. I found that the nylon cord only pulls one end up, and then I used pliers to "roll" them the rest of the way out. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:47:39 -0600 From: "Stowers" Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the Info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size > Jerry Stowers wrote: > > > What is the best size staples to use to skin the boat? > > I don't know about "best", but I used 5/16", and have no complaints. Don't > forget to staple over a nylon cord for easier removal, or even nylon > strapping, I've heard, works well for that purpose too. You don't > want to have to pry those things out with a screwdriver. I found that > the nylon cord only pulls one end up, and then I used pliers to "roll" > them the rest of the way out. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:44:32 +0000 From: Subject: KR> Sun-n-fun dinner To: Message-ID: <200403301144.i2UBiWe1057469@mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry to be so stupid. BUT... I looked at sun-n-fun event list and scanned the site. I can't find a schedule for KR's Verg, wrote, "Meet at the KR forum tent" Please tell me when. Thank you, Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:31:13 -0500 From: "Wood, Sidney M." Subject: RE: KR> Staple Size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The best size for staples is none; don't put them in so you don't need to pull them out and have to patch those thousands of holes. Make a half-inch plywood sheet a little bigger than the boat sides. Put the 3/32-plywood flat on the table and an inch larger than needed. Lay the 'ladder' on the 3/32 plywood and mark where all the 5/8 sticks will be. Apply epoxy to the marked areas and to the 5/8 spruce 'ladder'. Put the 'ladder' back on the 3/32-plywood. Nail a few small blocks at the ends of the ladder and through the 3/32 to keep things from squirming around. Be sure to put plastic sheet or wax paper under the wood blocks so they won't stick to the 'ladder'. Put a sheet of plastic over the 'ladder' followed by the half-inch plywood. Pile cinder blocks, bricks, sand bags, water jugs or what have you to press down tight; about 800 pounds total of cinder blocks worked great for me. Let cure a day or two, then remove the weights and trim the 3/32 plywood with a router. That's one boat side. When you do the other side, do remember: You want one left side and one right side. (Yeah, been there, done that.) For the bottom skin, assemble the boat sides, firewall frame and cross-members with epoxy per the plans. Trim the longerons flat with the cross-member per the plans. Before putting the skin on, brace the 5/8's cross-members with 2X4's to support the weights you will be piling on top. Be sure to put a sheet of plastic between the 5/8 spruce and the bracing. Epoxy will drool down and could easily attach your boat to the bracing. Clamps at the fire wall end will keep the 3/32-plywood from squirming around. Put 4-inch wide strips of 1/2 inch plywood on top of the 3/32- plywood at each of the cross-members, then add weights. Do not put weights on the unsupported 3/32-plywood. You can use the same technique for the spars also. Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD sidney.wood@titan.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Stowers Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:42 PM To: krnet Subject: KR> Staple Size What is the best size staples to use to skin the boat? Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s flynredneck@hotmail.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:09:58 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b101c41660$afa1bb20$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sid Wood wrote: > Epoxy will drool down and could easily attach your boat to the > bracing. This reminds me of something I should have said about stapling. After you're done stapling, flip the side over so that any excess epoxy you have will run back into a nice fillet around the joint between spruce and skin. Don't forget to leave some extra plywood hanging over in the back to act as a rudder fairing. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:30:29 -0500 From: Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR> Sun-n-fun dinner To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040330.093222.3980.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is usually a forum sometime. Maybe Jeanett did not schedule one this time. Steve at Great Planes will be glad to see you though, Virg On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:44:32 +0000 writes: > Sorry to be so stupid. BUT... > I looked at sun-n-fun event list and scanned the site. I can't find > a schedule for KR's > Verg, wrote, "Meet at the KR forum tent" > > Please tell me when. > > Thank you, > Steven Phillabaum > Auburn, Alabama > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:24:07 -0500 From: Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040330.093222.3980.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 5/16, Virg On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:42:01 -0600 "Stowers" writes: > What is the best size staples to use to skin the boat? > > Jerry Stowers > Duncan, Ok. > www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s > flynredneck@hotmail.com _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:24:08 -0800 From: Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c41673$6db14240$0f00a8c0@greg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark I'm sure know of the problems that Mooney had with pulling the staples out with a tape like strip. The early Mooney's had to have a redo of the wing skin. The skin actually seperated from the ribs both because of the tape and not letting the glue cure completely. Yes I know that epoxy is much better. How ever, Bellanca used the nail tack strips. Never had a problem. Personally, I'd do the weight on the frame work with just any plywood over some plastic or wax paper. That will eliminate nail removal. Greg Martin . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size > Jerry Stowers wrote: > > > What is the best size staples to use to skin the boat? > > I don't know about "best", but I used 5/16", and have no complaints. Don't > forget to staple over a nylon cord for easier removal, or even nylon > strapping, I've heard, works well for that purpose too. You don't > want to have to pry those things out with a screwdriver. I found that > the nylon cord only pulls one end up, and then I used pliers to "roll" > them the rest of the way out. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:56:00 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Staple Size To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002801c41677$e452fde0$3764a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>The skin actually seperated from the ribs both because of the tape >>>and not letting the glue cure completely. Please say some more about this - I cannot see how the tape will effect the adhesive on the opposite side of the ply? Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:37:16 -0800 From: Subject: Re: KR> Staple Size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002d01c4167d$a65ca8f0$0f00a8c0@greg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve I had E. W. (Speed) Gardenhire working for me, he had airframe license #59 (but dead now). A friend of his worked for Mooney a few years ago when they were building the M20. I beleave the glue they used was the most popular at the time, I'm just not sure of the name. They used some type of a steel reinforced tape. They glued the skin to the ribs using tacks and the tape. The next day they pulled the tape with a real hard fast pull. This was what the people at Mooney wound up figuring out what caused the speration of the skin from the ribs. This and the fact that the glue had not cured completely. My guess on this new epoxy is that it cures in 24 hrs. and that is a big difference over the glues of the past. I think that the weight on the glued material is a far better method than all the staples, tacks etc. leaving no holes to fill. Greg Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Jacobs" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:56 AM Subject: RE: KR> Staple Size > > >>>The skin actually seperated from the ribs both because of the tape > >>>and not letting the glue cure completely. > > > Please say some more about this - I cannot see how the tape will > effect the adhesive on the opposite side of the ply? > > Steve J > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:53:28 -0500 From: "James Wester" Subject: Re: KR> EJ 22 engine mount To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003b01c41680$0bdd6460$564f87d1@joflywester> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gavin , try to get a hold of (turbo) Tom Wyatt III @ www.turbotom.com , or contact Kitplanes magazine for their three part series ( that ended with the May 2001 issue ) on Tom's work in converting Robert Goodman's RV-4 . You would want to pick carefully through this information , but anyway , there's a truckload of it ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Donohoe" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: KR> EJ 22 engine mount > Hi All, > I will soon be making my engine mount for my KR2S! I even have the > plans from Don Reid but they don't specify the size and wall thickness tube to use. > I'm using an EJ22 Subaru engine, can anybody tell me what size tube > should be used for this engine??? > > > Thanks, > Gavin > > Australia > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 22/03/2004 > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:59:56 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Staple Size To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c41689$36974370$6164a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The next day they pulled the tape with a real hard fast pull. This was what the people at Mooney wound up figuring out what caused the separation of the skin from the ribs. This and the fact that the glue had not cured completely. Thanks Greg. ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:18:52 +0200 From: "Dene Collett \(SA\)" Subject: KR> 4130 tubing To: "krnet" Message-ID: <000701c41694$61efe8a0$37e5fea9@telkomsa127179> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Gang Can anyone tell me where I can find information regarding the minimum bending radius for various sizes of 4130 tubing. At the moment I am interested in 1.5" OD with .025 wall. Tanks guys. Dene Collett KR2S-RT builder Port Elizabeth South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:42:19 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Standards To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <019b01c416a8$43187690$4096dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone seen or got the latest Plans, and are they still the same as the old ones, meaning, do the new plans still promote the retract gear??? or are they up to date?? Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 16:55:49 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Standards To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <052f01c416aa$2726eb90$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phillip Matheson wrote: > Has anyone seen or got the latest Plans, and are they still the same > as the old ones, meaning, do the new plans still promote the retract gear??? > or are they up to date?? I believe the manual that I have is as new as it gets, which is January 1990, with drawings from various years. The KR2 drawings that I have were done in October 1982, and the KR2S are at various times, most recently June of 1993. The only thing my manual mentions is retracts, although the RR web page shows fixed gear for sale (www.fly-kr.com) for KR2 and KR2S, tricycle and conventional. I'd be surprised if anybody had a manual or drawings any newer than that, but would welcome the good news if there were... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:12:07 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Re: 6061-T6 T-bar To: "KR Net" , "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" Message-ID: <003a01c416ac$6c5f7e00$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I guess I should have stated the grade. It is 6063-T5. Some of you metal gurus step in here and tell us how this compares to 6061-T6. The use for the T-bar in question is rudder and elevator control horns. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Snyder" > You can bet your last penny it was NOT 6061T6 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > > > John, > > I just happened to be in an ACE Hardware yesterday and was getting a piece > > of aluminum and lo and behold....there was some 1" T-Bar and some > > 3/4" T-Bar. I would have never thought an Ace Hardware store would > > carry T-Bar. > > Check with your local Ace Hardware. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Esch" >> > > > > Anyone have a name of a place of where to 6061-T6 alumunim Tee > > > stock? .org/corvaircraft_inst.html ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:03:20 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> 4130 tubing To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am pretty sure that the minimum bend radis is in the AC 43.13, but I can't seem to put my hands on mine right now. You can download the AC off of the FAA web site. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dene Collett (SA) Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 3:19 PM To: krnet Subject: KR> 4130 tubing Hi Gang Can anyone tell me where I can find information regarding the minimum bending radius for various sizes of 4130 tubing. At the moment I am interested in 1.5" OD with .025 wall. Tanks guys. Dene Collett KR2S-RT builder Port Elizabeth South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:22:01 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> O T To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <406A0F29.000001.03868@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The KR-1 is a great airplane. Go to http://www.krnet.org/ and scroll to the bottom. That one is priceless. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 03/28/04 23:56:08 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> O T Can any one tell what price a KR1 should sell for? Is the KR1 another BD5. 30 years in the making and unable to fly? _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 8 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================