From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 325, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 3 point Landings (Colin & Bev Rainey) 2. Landing logically (joe) 3. RE: Virus?? (Ron Freiberger) 4. Re: Virus?? (Mark Langford) 5. Re: Virus?? (Orma Robbins) 6. Re: Virus?? (Ameet Savant) 7. Re: Virus?? (joe) 8. RE: Virus?? (Wolfgang Decker) 9. Re: Virus?? 10. Re: Translation URL (Ameet Savant) 11. Widening fuselage? (Stowers) 12. Re: Widening fuselage? (Mark Langford) 13. Re: Widening fuselage? 14. Re: Widening fuselage? (Bob Stone) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:11:12 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>3 point Landings Message-ID: <003001c3fd6d$d8c752f0$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Joel, If you were flying & being signed off in a certified aircraft you would = be required to perform 3 full stop landings performing correct 3 point = landings that you currently do, and 3 full stop wheel landings. Then = you would also be required to perform 3 takeoffs and landings to a full = stop within each 90 day period in a tailwheel aircraft in order to carry = passengers. If at night you are required to perform 3 takeoffs and = landings to a full stop regardless of type to carry passengers. I would = encourage all to follow these minimum guidelines for safety sake even = not required for experimental certificated aircraft. Joel the 3 = pointers are great for light wind conditions, but I would still stay = proficient at wheel landings also. They are almost mandatory when = dealing with any decent cross wind situation to afford the extra control = necessary to safely land. All of these discussions in my mind are not to tell anyone that = what they are doing is wrong but to encourage all pilots, but especially = the low time pilots to exercise procedures that build in extra safety = margins against problems. Whenever we fly close to these margins we = take away from us alot of our ability to compensate for situations and = reduce our alternatives. As we gain experience we can then push this = envelope and fly closer to those margins. FLY SAFE! All...... Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.htmlFrom fegbdf@earthlink.net Fri Feb 27 12:35:17 2004 Received: from bittern.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.119]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AwohZ-000BsU-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:35:17 -0800 Received: from h-68-164-186-209.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net ([68.164.186.209] helo=o7p4e3) by bittern.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Awoag-0005XZ-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:28:10 -0800 Message-ID: <004401c3fd70$4fa3b880$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:28:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Landings X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Next time you are at an Airshow or if you have a good memory: Watch and = see who does three pointers and who does wheelies and think real hard about what you are seeing or have seen.From wynoose@bellsouth.net Fri Feb 27 12:49:54 2004 Received: from imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.64]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Awovi-000C3M-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:49:54 -0800 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.159]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTPid <20040227204134.VDVX1830.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:41:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) X-Originating-IP: [209.214.46.199] From: To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Landings Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:41:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040227204134.VDVX1830.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Up in the bush country we always said do what works for you and what you are good at. Murphy's law not withstanding. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:04:00 -0800 From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>Landing logically Message-ID: <005501c3fd75$39dd20e0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Let's take it logically and not mechanically: 1: Wind fairly straight down the Runway 2: Wind below 10Knts. 3: Pilot proficient and current. 4: Fly pattern a little wider and longer downwind. Probability good for a 3 pointer. Caution: Strong crosswind;From johnjane@chc.net.au Fri Feb 27 13:41:30 2004 Received: from green.hot.net.au ([216.93.176.26] helo=Hot.net.au) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Awpje-000E0r-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:41:30 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by Hot.net.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) id i1RLXLDS049515 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:33:21 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from johnjane@chc.net.au) Received: from johnjane (async130-pool-v.in.com.au [203.202.110.130]) by green.hot.net.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i1RLX9iE049089 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:33:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from johnjane@chc.net.au) Message-ID: <004701c3fd79$1c2d3220$75a0fea9@johnjane> From: "Martindale Family" To: "KRNET" Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 07:56:55 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 - (http://pldaniels.com/inflex/) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Virus?? X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Folks I am getting a host of largely identical emails from "Service Centre = Technik" in the from line,"KR - plans for sale" in the subject line and = German text in the message. No attachments apparent. Anyone else getting = these or am I getting spoofed by a new virus? See Ya John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjane@chc.net.auFrom johnjane@chc.net.au Fri Feb 27 13:41:35 2004 Received: from green.hot.net.au ([216.93.176.26] helo=Hot.net.au) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Awpjj-000E1c-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:41:35 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by Hot.net.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) id i1RLXPUO049674 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:33:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from johnjane@chc.net.au) Received: from johnjane (async130-pool-v.in.com.au [203.202.110.130]) by green.hot.net.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with SMTP id i1RLX9iG049089 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:33:21 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from johnjane@chc.net.au) Message-ID: <004801c3fd79$1daf3e40$75a0fea9@johnjane> From: "Martindale Family" To: "KRNET" Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:26:22 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 - (http://pldaniels.com/inflex/) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Fuse philosophy X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: .............Size the breaker or fuse to protect the wire size it = is connected to and be sure you sized the wire for the current draw on = it. Sorry guys but I must be missing something here. Surely you should be providing fuse protection for the load and not the = wiring. Since the former should always be considerably less than the = wire rating, are you not protecting both. I would rather protect my = avionics with their lower current raw and thus have the wiring covered = by default. One might even argue that the unit itself (radio or bulb = etc) could otherwise act as a fuse in its own right (God forbid) in an = extreme event and blow before the fuse you've used to protect the = wiring. In critical ignition/fuel pump circuits you would need to plan = conservatively for an initial inductive current that is higher than the = running current and choose a higher rated or slow blow fuse. I am using = two 15 amp self resetting circuit breakers for this job in an = independent switchable duplicate system even though each = ignitioncoil/fuel pump combination only draws about 5 amps in toto. No = problems so far...touch wood!! =20 John PS: Regarding low and slow training. There is apparently an article in = EAA Sport Aviation Dec 2003, pages 110-112. Has anyone seen it? =20 The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjane@chc.net.auFrom rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com Fri Feb 27 15:00:25 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-01-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.131] helo=ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1Awqy1-000FAb-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:00:25 -0800 Received: from zippersystems (208-28.201-68.swfla.rr.com [68.201.28.208]) by ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i1RMq3DK026974 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:52:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Fuse philosophy Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:52:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004801c3fd79$1daf3e40$75a0fea9@johnjane> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Martindale said; .............Size the breaker or fuse to protect the wire size it is connected to and be sure you sized the wire for the current draw on it. Sorry guys but I must be missing something here. No, you're not missing anything; both requirements are correct, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with using a reduced size fuse or circuit breaker for the expected load. BUT.... Also make sure the protecting device will open the circuit without failing the wire. Another similar issue, is fusing the Alternator/generator load. This needs to be done "up front", in a hostile environment for fuses (heat and moisture/corrosion). It is good practice to use a short piece of wire that is smaller size, call a "fusible link" in the automotive business, usually (I think) 4 wire sizes than the main wire, so that if a short occurs, it will blow the link. A circuit breaker at the other end is not useful. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:55:11 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004701c3fd79$1c2d3220$75a0fea9@johnjane> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 John, I think we all got them. I basically don't read stuff from people I don't know, so they were all trashed. I don't know if it's a spoof, but my Road Runner ISP blocks virus stuff very effectively. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Martindale Family Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:57 PM To: KRNET Subject: KR>Virus?? Folks I am getting a host of largely identical emails from "Service Centre Technik" in the from line,"KR - plans for sale" in the subject line and German text in the message. No attachments apparent. Anyone else getting these or am I getting spoofed by a new virus? See Ya John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjane@chc.net.au_______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:00:57 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: <00b301c3fd85$8fe086c0$1202a8c0@basement> References: <004701c3fd79$1c2d3220$75a0fea9@johnjane> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 John Martindale wrote: > I am getting a host of largely identical emails from "Service Centre Technik" in the from line,"KR - plans for sale" in the subject line and German text in the message. No attachments apparent. Anyone else getting these or am I getting spoofed by a new virus?< It looked to me like somebody or some bot subscribed itself and then starting spamming. I unsubscribed the address, and fixed it so they could never subscribe again. I hope this isn't a harbinger of things to come... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:06:41 -0500 From: "Orma Robbins" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: <015d01c3fd86$5d50d790$acc14944@ROBBINS1> References: <004701c3fd79$1c2d3220$75a0fea9@johnjane> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 I getting spoofed by a new virus? I too have gotten a few of them and was equally concerned. I ran McAfee and there were no alerts..I updated McAfee and re-ran the scan program and still no alerts. If any one know any thing different please let all of us know. Does anyone read german and know what was said? Orma L. Robbins Orma@aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:07:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ameet Savant To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: <20040228000706.73441.qmail@web60804.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <015d01c3fd86$5d50d790$acc14944@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 The translation of the email is: ====================================================== Automatically acknowledgement generated Very honored T-ONLINES customers, very honored T-ONLINES customer We test your inquiry as quickly as possible and report ourselves after that again with you. With kind regards Your T-ONLINE service center technology ====================================================== Seems like someone subscribed to the kr net with this email address, which is some kind of online service center support email. I am sure they have unsubscribed by now since we are not getting any automated replies. I hope this puts the Virus theory to rest! BTW: the translation was done using this website http://ets.freetranslation.com/ I certainly don't speak/read/write German Cheerio! Ameet ameetsavant at yahoo dot com > Does anyone read german and know what was said? > Orma L. Robbins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:54:58 -0800 From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: <000501c3fd95$7d3e5fa0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> References: <20040228000706.73441.qmail@web60804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 could't get anywhere with the URL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ameet Savant" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:07 PM Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? > > The translation of the email is: > > ====================================================== > Automatically acknowledgement generated > > Very honored T-ONLINES customers, very honored > T-ONLINES customer > > We test your inquiry as quickly as possible and report ourselves after > that again with you. > > With kind regards > > Your T-ONLINE service center technology > > ====================================================== > > Seems like someone subscribed to the kr net with this > email address, which is some kind of online service > center support email. I am sure they have unsubscribed > by now since we are not getting any automated replies. > > I hope this puts the Virus theory to rest! > > BTW: the translation was done using > this website http://ets.freetranslation.com/ > > I certainly don't speak/read/write German > > Cheerio! > Ameet > ameetsavant at yahoo dot com > > > Does anyone read german and know what was said? > > Orma L. Robbins > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. > http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:18:30 -0500 From: "Wolfgang Decker" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040228000706.73441.qmail@web60804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 The translation is quite good, actually. T-Online is the largest online service provider in Germany, owned by the Deutsche Telekom. Maybe somebody signed up with an address that redirected the message to the t-online support center, which answered with an automated reply. Wolfgang -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ameet Savant Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:07 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? The translation of the email is: ====================================================== Automatically acknowledgement generated Very honored T-ONLINES customers, very honored T-ONLINES customer We test your inquiry as quickly as possible and report ourselves after that again with you. With kind regards Your T-ONLINE service center technology ====================================================== Seems like someone subscribed to the kr net with this email address, which is some kind of online service center support email. I am sure they have unsubscribed by now since we are not getting any automated replies. I hope this puts the Virus theory to rest! BTW: the translation was done using this website http://ets.freetranslation.com/ I certainly don't speak/read/write German Cheerio! Ameet ameetsavant at yahoo dot com > Does anyone read german and know what was said? > Orma L. Robbins __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:31:28 EST From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Virus?? Message-ID: <1ce.1adf8db6.2d715780@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Wolfgang? Do you have friends in AZ? Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 18:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: Ameet Savant To: KRnet Subject: KR>Re: Translation URL Message-ID: <20040228023847.24157.qmail@web60806.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <000501c3fd95$7d3e5fa0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 Sorry about that, The correct URL is http://www.freetranslation.com/ --- joe wrote: > could't get anywhere with the URL __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:49:31 -0600 From: "Stowers" To: "krnet" Subject: KR>Widening fuselage? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 Hello, new builder here. I was wondering when widening the fuselage 4 = inches does a person need to widen the firewall too?From gleone@rtconnect.net Fri Feb 27 20:06:11 2004 Received: from relay1.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.126]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Awvjv-000ILp-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:06:11 -0800 Received: from [137.118.16.188] (HELO av0.av-mx.com) by relay1.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 39063287 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:58:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 14495 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2004 03:58:00 -0000 Received: from 137-118-244-135.actaccess.net (HELO your-fd6nvjcer4) (137.118.244.135) by mx0.av-mx.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2004 03:58:00 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 137.118.244.135 X-CLIENT-HOST: 137-118-244-135.actaccess.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <404011C5.000004.02652@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:57:57 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_LC0SBHK0000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail (2501358) From: "gleone" References: To: Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? X-FID: PLAINTXT-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-Priority: 3 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: --------------Boundary-00=_LC0SBHK0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I"m building a KR-1 and I'm widening my fuselage about 3 inches including the firewall. I'm doing that for several reasons: the obvious being a little more room in the cockpit. Also, I will have a slightly wider fuel tank and I'm building it a little taller, too, as I don't want wing tanks= =2E=20 I haven't computed the actual numbers yet but I hope to pick up about 4-5 gallons in the process. Now that the weather is starting to get better, = I'm about to get back into the actual construction of my bird. Meanwhile, I'= ll be building my instrument panel for later installation based on the widen= ed cockpit and increased height of the cowl. Visibility won't be much affec= ted as I'm building a tri-geared bird. =0D =0D Gene, Worland, Wyoming=0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: 02/27/04 20:43:30=0D To: krnet=0D Subject: KR>Widening fuselage?=0D =0D Hello, new builder here. I was wondering when widening the fuselage 4 inc= hes does a person need to widen the firewall too?_______________________________________=0D to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net=0D please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html=0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_LC0SBHK0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:04:45 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? Message-ID: <00ed01c3fdb0$007e3b50$1202a8c0@basement> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Stowers wrote: > Hello, new builder here. I was wondering when widening the fuselage 4 inches does a person need to widen the firewall too?< I didn't widen my firewall because I wanted to retain the option of using the RR cowling. I don't need the room for the Corvair engine, but some more real estate to hang things on would have been nice. And since I made my own cowling anyway, it would have been just as easy. I'd say it's entirely optional. When seen from above, the fuselage/cowling lines on mine worked out just fine. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:55:30 EST From: BSARJ@cs.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? Message-ID: <1d7.1adb73ee.2d722202@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 Hello all, I have a dilemma! I am trying to get a "mature" gentlemen's KR-1 flying while he and his 82 year old body are still ticking. I need to replace the propeller but in has a 3/4 inch wood space glued to the back of the HEGY 52 x 40 propeller. I can get another propeller but not with the spacer. The hub is a SAE # 0. Does any one sell, manufacture, or have a spare aluminum spacer that I can put behind the new prop or...an ideas for me in this situation? mr. bill at BSARJ@CS.COM The engine is a VW1600 with a REVMASTER REV-FLOW carb. Does any one make or sell a carb heat box for this 2 3/8 inch opening on the REV-FLOW? Again, any suggestion for this situation will be appreciated! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:50:21 -0600 From: "Bob Stone" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? Message-ID: <000401c3fe34$19eb2060$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> References: <1d7.1adb73ee.2d722202@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 Next time you post a message to the KRNet, put your name at the bottom of the message so we know what to call you, knowing where you live might be helpfull also. Contact Revemaster Aviation, here is their web site:http://www.revmasteraviation.com/ If anyone can help you with your problem it will be them. The owner is a guy by the name of Joe Horvath and he knows just about everything there is to know about VW engines. The guy is honest and will treat you right. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:55 AM Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? > Hello all, I have a dilemma! I am trying to get a "mature" gentlemen's KR-1 > flying while he and his 82 year old body are still ticking. I need to replace > the propeller but in has a 3/4 inch wood space glued to the back of the HEGY 52 > x 40 propeller. I can get another propeller but not with the spacer. The hub > is a SAE # 0. Does any one sell, manufacture, or have a spare aluminum spacer > that I can put behind the new prop or...an ideas for me in this situation? > mr. bill at BSARJ@CS.COM > The engine is a VW1600 with a REVMASTER REV-FLOW carb. > Does any one make or sell a carb heat box for this 2 3/8 inch opening on the > REV-FLOW? Again, any suggestion for this situation will be appreciated! > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 325, Issue 1 *************************************