From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 326, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. prop spacer, carb heat box (Mark Langford) 2. IVO Prop (Orma Robbins) 3. Reply KR-2 Engine Choices - " Long" (Phillip Matheson) 4. Re: Widening fuselage? (larry severson) 5. Re: IVO Prop (Orma Robbins) 6. Re: Widening fuselage? (Pat Driscoll) 7. Re: It Breathes! (Ross Youngblood) 8. Re: Ross Site (Ross Youngblood) 9. Fw: warning (Dan Walker) 10. Re: Fw: warning (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 13:56:02 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>prop spacer, carb heat box Message-ID: <014301c3fe34$e50c9f30$1202a8c0@basement> References: <1d7.1adb73ee.2d722202@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 BSARJ@cs.com wrote: > Does any one sell, manufacture, or have a spare aluminum spacer that I > can put behind the new prop or...an ideas for me in this situation? Ken Brock at http://www.kenbrockmfg.com/plates.htm makes some 1/4" spacers for $30. You could also buy a small piece of aluminum and cut it out to shape on a bandsaw and use your crush plate as a template to build your own, but it would be heavy. Or I suppose you could make your own wooden one out of aircraft grade plywood or hardwood, but I'd worry about hardwood splitting, since it wouldn't be laminated to anything (probably why is was glued to the other one). Maybe somebody else has a better idea, but there's always the machine shop. Ken Brock Mfg. might make you one special too. Don't know about the carb heat box, but I know the folks that make most of them are at http://www.aviacompworldwide.com/carbheatboxes.html , and they have a 2.5" inlet version available. I would think that would be close enough. Maybe I should just let somebody that KNOWs answer this, but just in case you don't get another reply, these would be leads in the right direction... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:06:39 -0500 From: "Orma Robbins" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>IVO Prop Message-ID: <01fc01c3fe57$e897acd0$acc14944@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Hi Net I have been working on my web site all day and since the net is quite = thought it might be a nice time to tell everyone that I added a page = showing the New prop. It can be seen at = http://www.aviation-mechanics.com then click on Orma's fun page. My = engine is a type 4 2000 cc. I can turn the prop at 2950 static and in = the air turns at 3300. I have it set to the low pitch stop. It would = be better if I had more HP. Orma L. Robbins Southfield MI 19 Years flying KR-2 N110LR http://www.aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:45:59 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Reply KR-2 Engine Choices - " Long" Message-ID: <00fb01c3fe5d$66f212a0$4096dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 3 ----- Original Message -----=20 Sid wrote My first question: Is an extra 25 hp worth an extra $9,000? Second: Is an estimated extra 91 pounds empty weight on a KR-2 = realistic? = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------- Sidney. I am an agent for VW engine centre. After reading your email sent to the KRnet on 27/2/04 regarding = Engine Choices, I had a few concerns regarding some of the issues you = raised as well as the replies you received from that email, so I = contacted Ron Slender to discuss these issues. =20 We are posting this reply to the KRnet regarding some of these = replies you received, as we feel they miss lead other KRnet readers Price Quoted $13,746.00 $US with Prop, Engine mount, fuel = pumps,fuel filters, Anti surge tank (about 1 litre capacity) , Exhaust 2 = into 1 and delivered to Nearest International terminal or LA. You would be responsible to clear customs and freight to your = address.We understand that Aircraft Engines are DUTY and TAX free?? So I may question the $700 customs and Freight. I would also question the Extra $2000 needed for airframe mods = when 0-200 and Corvair are being fitted into these aircraft without = those mods. The extra height components are only available in Australia = we believe. The extra weight we feel would be still under the weight of an = 0-200 (240 lb , 108kg) or Corvair (225 lb- 102 kg) instalation. You talked about the extra 25 hp, but I feel the 200+ ft/lb of = torque is a much more important issue for shorter ground roll and rate = of climb which you indicated that you dont care if you use a 1000 feet = to rotate from. The tuneability is also a key issue and the 2200 is = going to be tuned on 94 octane which is easy for us as it is a program. Whats fuel cost in the US per gallon for 94 octane.? About half = the cost of 100 LL I believe. Thats the versitility of direct port fuel injection with = Ignition Management.=20 There must be a reason why more and more enthusiasts are looking = toward the higher performance engines to fit the KR2 and S series = aircraft. The current climb rate is slow, the take off at max weight is = marginal and gets worse with hot conditions. Enthusiasts want more = performance and our engines offer that opportunity but some aspects of = the design need to be addressed like prop clearance because bigger = engines use bigger propellers and that is what inspires us all to = proceed to a higher level. The RG TT 2200 EFI and the 2000 EFI has done just that. Although = we offer carb engines ( RG2000 around $9000 us) there is no comparison = trying to compare a direct drive carb engine to the latest EFI = technology. . Sidney, Please feel free to contact Ron Slender at your earliest = convenience should you wish to discuss any aspects of your quote from VW engine Centre. Thank you for your support of our products, and hope to hear = from you soon. My best regards Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:33:38 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040228173303.027df110@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <1d7.1adb73ee.2d722202@cs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 Revmaster makes the heat box. I am putting one on my engine. At 11:55 AM 2/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hello all, I have a dilemma! I am trying to get a "mature" gentlemen's >KR-1 flying while he and his 82 year old body are still ticking. I need >to replace the propeller but in has a 3/4 inch wood space glued to the >back of the HEGY 52 x 40 propeller. I can get another propeller but not >with the spacer. The hub is a SAE # 0. Does any one sell, manufacture, >or have a spare aluminum spacer that I can put behind the new prop >or...an ideas for me in this situation? > mr. bill at BSARJ@CS.COM >The engine is a VW1600 with a REVMASTER REV-FLOW carb. >Does any one make or sell a carb heat box for this 2 3/8 inch opening on the >REV-FLOW? Again, any suggestion for this situation will be appreciated! >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 23:04:30 -0500 From: "Orma Robbins" To: "KRnet" , "Ron Slender" Subject: Re: KR>IVO Prop Message-ID: <022401c3fe79$22be4a60$acc14944@ROBBINS1> References: <00ea01c3fe5b$56f5bc50$4096dccb@StationW2k04> <002401c3fe6d$53c4c280$ebc50ad2@one> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 Hi Ron Your engine with EFI system looks, and your discription sound = impressive. I would still guess that the total added weight for your = engine system is going to be near the 300 pound mark. How much does = your reduction drive weigh. Mind you I did say it is a quess. As for = my engine installation, well, I have been flying behind it for neary 20 = years. I do have some concern about the added prop weight, and only = time will tell. A lot of us picked the KR because we wanted more bang = for the buck. If I had it to do over I would probably make the same = choises. If I ever choose to reinvest in an engine I will probably look = at both the O-200 and the Corvair. Again it's about bang for the buck. = Some builders have managed to get KR's flying for under $2000. Unlike = twenty years ago, all sorts of engine options including yours is = available. I have a professional engine builder who has given me a = heads up that he has an O-200 that he has completed and wants $7700 US. = Yours is admittedly on the high end of the scale. If money is not an = object, it would seem an inviting option. Todays builders are = installing everything including glass cockpits in the little birds. And = yes Ron Todays dollar does not go as far as it used to. My KR was = simple and not ment to be expensive. I may dream and wish for more = horse power, but the reliability of my gravity carb and Bosch 009, have = endured the test of time. Perhaps when my ship comes in I might = consider other engine options, even one that costs over 13,000 in US = dollars. At the present time that amount equals on year at my daughters = college. Thanks for the inside information about your engine. I would like to = know more about the reduction drive. =20 P.S. my name is Orma, and not Omar Orma L. Robbins Southfield MI 19 Years flying KR-2 N110LR http://www.aviation-mechanics.com From patrick36@usfamily.net Sat Feb 28 20:55:53 2004 Received: from 67.104.219.35.ptr.us.xo.net ([67.104.219.35] helo=xo-m1.usfamily.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AxIzZ-0007MU-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:55:53 -0800 Received: from [64.212.141.154] by usfamily.net (USFamily MTA v2.1.0) with SMTP id com for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:48:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from patrick36@usfamily.net) Message-ID: <000501c3fe7e$aca477e0$9a8dd440@oemcomputer> From: "Pat Driscoll" To: "KRnet" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040228173303.027df110@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:44:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: What does this have to do with "widening the fuselage"? ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:52:51 -0600 From: "Pat Driscoll" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Widening fuselage? Message-ID: <003701c3fe7f$e34bc040$9a8dd440@oemcomputer> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040228173303.027df110@pop-server.socal.rr.com> <000501c3fe7e$aca477e0$9a8dd440@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 I guess I should have checked this message before I sent it. It is in response to the following Revmaster makes the heat box. I am putting one on my engine. At 11:55 AM 2/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Hello all, I have a dilemma! I am trying to get a "mature" gentlemen's >= KR-1 >flying while he and his 82 year old body are still ticking. I need to = replace >the propeller but in has a 3/4 inch wood space glued to the back of the >= >HEGY 52 >x 40 propeller. I can get another propeller but not with the spacer. = The hub >is a SAE # 0. Does any one sell, manufacture, or have a spare aluminum >= spacer >that I can put behind the new prop or...an ideas for me in this=20 >situation? > mr. bill at BSARJ@CS.COM >The engine is a VW1600 with a REVMASTER REV-FLOW carb. >Does any one make or sell a carb heat box for this 2 3/8 inch opening = on the >REV-FLOW? Again, any suggestion for this situation will be = appreciated! >_______________________________________ ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 05:57:56 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>It Breathes! Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101c3fc05$194dc8f0$a800a8c0@dell4600> References: <001101c3fc05$194dc8f0$a800a8c0@dell4600> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Whoo Hoo! Will have to come over to your place and take photos! On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:08:52 -0800, John Bouyea wrote: > Just had to tell someone! I fired off my RevMaster 2100 this > afternoon after FAR too long in the conversion to Diehl tri-gear > process. > > It seems to be running better than I remember. It might have > something to do with all the new 3/8" fuel lines I installed. It sure > doesn't have anything to do with the fuel level as I only put 3 quarts > of gas in the dry tank! > > My wife isn't jumping up and down with me but hopefully this gives > someone else a smile this afternoon. > > John Bouyea > KR2 - ready to start mounting the cowl > KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters > > john_0310@bouyea.net > > www.bouyea.net > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:00:39 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Ross Site Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <403DCD5D.000004.03124@Computer> References: <403DCD5D.000004.03124@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Maybe I gave a bad address It's http://n541ry.us Only the top link "Movies" works. The links I Posted are on the More Stuff.. link on the Movies page. On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 05:41:33 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Dan Heath wrote: > Ross, > > > > I tried your site, but could not get to it. > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:53:24 -0700 From: "Dan Walker" To: "Chuck" , "Bette Wilkinson" , "Jill" , "KRnet" , , "Sharon" , "Kyla" Subject: KR>Fw: warning Message-ID: <001b01c3fee4$8bcccfc0$8c4ae618@DJNVYL31> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Georgette=20 To: Tammi Hamilton ; Rose & Jim ; Mom ; McJunkinLE@aol.com ; Karen = Pennington ; Dan ; Denise L Walker=20 Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 6:49 AM Subject: warning > >Subject: Warning!!! > >Very Important > >During the next several weeks be VERY cautious about >opening or > >launching any e-mails that refer to the World Trade >Center or 9/11 in > >any way, regardless of who sent it. PLEASE FORWARD TO >ALL YOUR > >FRIENDS AND FAMILY. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, "WTC" >STANDS FOR THE > >WORLD TRADE CENTER. REALLY DANGEROUS BECAUSE PEOPLE >WILL OPEN IT > >RIGHT AWAY, THINKING ITS A! STORY RELATING TO 9/11! > >BIGGGG TROUBLE !!!! DO NOT OPEN "WTC Survivor" It is >a virus that > >will erase your whole "C" drive.. It will come to you >in the form of > >an E-Mail from a familiar person. I repeat, a friend >sent it to me, > >but called and warned me before I opened it. He was >not so lucky and > >now he can't even start his computer! > > > >Forward this to everyone in your address book. I >would rather > >receive this 25 times than not at all. So, if you >receive an email > >called "WTC Survivor", do not open it. Delete it >right away! This > >virus removes all dynamic link libraries (.dll files) >from your > >computer. > >PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:33:42 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Fw: warning Message-ID: <001701c3feea$2e493d60$1202a8c0@basement> References: <001b01c3fee4$8bcccfc0$8c4ae618@DJNVYL31> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Dan Walker wrote: > > >During the next several weeks be VERY cautious about > >opening or > > >launching any e-mails that refer to the World Trade > >Center or 9/11 in This is a hoax (see http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/hoaxes/wtcsurvivor.html ), and has no business being sent to KRnet, even if it was NOT a hoax. Anything that says "send this to everyone in your address book" should be your first clue that this is just something designed to make waves throughout the internet, slowing down everyone in the process. There are more details on hoaxes and viruses on that website. Please read "KRNetiquette" on the KRnet info site at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . Please remove KRnet from your address book next time you design to do something like this. I don't mind if you bother all the rest of your friends, but please don't bother 450 KRnetters with it. I guess I just bothered 450 KRnetters with this message, but my hope is to stop others from doing it before they also do it. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 326, Issue 1 *************************************