From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 1 Date: 1/1/2005 8:59:04 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Germany vacation webpage (Steelef@aol.com) 2. Re: Germany vacation webpage (jeffyork40@qx.net) 3. Re: Germany vacation webpage (Mark Langford) 4. RE: N Number req for Registration (Brian Kraut) 5. New baby (Brian Kraut) 6. Control surface failure. (haroldwoods) 7. Control Surface Failure (ronevogt@cox.net) 8. Re: Control Surface Failure (Mark Langford) 9. Re: Control Surface Failure (Mark Jones) 10. Re: New baby (SkyVisionSC@aol.com) 11. Re: Germany vacation (Jack Cooper) 12. Avgas cost (Glasseyegav) 13. Re: Avgas cost (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:56:23 EST From: Steelef@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Germany vacation webpage To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <157.47364f4f.2f083e47@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ML said" had a slight compression problem" Hello, would you mind sharing info re: "slight comp. prob" ? & solution for those of us following "Vair power"? -Franc S ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:22:29 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> Germany vacation webpage To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000d01c4f02e$ec735600$6501a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I actually enjoyed the change of pace that you brought with the pictures of your Germany vacation. What a beautiful place and how fortunate that you where able to share this with your family and to extend that to your KR family. Thank you very much. I hope that in this new year that more KR members will share pictures of more of the custom work and solutions they come up with in their KR ventures. As the saying goes. pictures are worth a thousand words. You can see my new homepage at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ Jeff York Lexington, KY KR-2 N839BG http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: KR> Germany vacation webpage > KRNetHeads, > > Just so I'll have some KR content, I took a few pictures of cutaway aircraft > engines in the Deutches Museum. Here's a sample of a VW Type1 > Limbach, at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/germany/0410110918.jpg , > that I took on our > recent vacation to Germany. > > It's Friday, so maybe I can get away with this. Some of y'all > probably have > the day off and some time to kill. You might remember that I promised > a web > page detailing our German vacation, eventually. It's finally done, at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/germany/ . Obviously I have a lot of time > invested in this web page (it's 420 pictures, and is 33Mb big)... time which > I really should have been working on my plane. Most people I've > showed it too have raved over it, so it's probably not a complete > waste of your time. > If you're on dialup, start it downloading and come back in an hour so > you don't find yourself waiting for each image to load. 33M is a lot > of stuff, > and although I've never seen it happen, it wouldn't surprise me if it became > "unavailable" because of the bandwidth. But I don't really think > HiWAAY has > a bandwidth limit, so we'll find out. > > I ran my KR's Corvair engine some yesterday, and intend to spend the > next three days working on the KR. I've fixed the slight compression > problem I had on number 6, and will be checking the intake system next. One bank > seems to be running richer than the other, as unlikely as that seems. I > really haven't done much with it in the last few weeks due to demands > from the workplace, holiday family stuff, and preventative maintenance > on the wife's Audi. I'm getting back around to it, although it looks > like I'll be > going back to Germany (on business) for up to two months early in > 2005. I'd > better get it in gear! > > Y'all have a good one... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:22:20 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Germany vacation webpage To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016201c4f037$3728ba20$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Franc S wrote: > ML said" had a slight compression problem" > Hello, would you mind sharing info re: "slight comp. prob" ? & > solution for > those of us following "Vair power"? I posted the answer to this one to the CorvAircraft list this morning, so if you're not a member of that list, you should consider joining. It's also run by me, so it's just like KRnet, except for the personalities! Join by sending an email to corvaircraft-join@mylist.net. I don't bother posting that kind of stuff to KRnet because I assume that anybody that cares anything about the Corvair will be on CorvAircraft. But to answer your question, I had one cylinder that was "only" 74/80 differential compression, so I fixed it. Most people wouldn't have noticed it, and most who DID notice it wouldn't have bothered to fix it, but the Corvair is so easy to get the head off, I had it fixed in a few hours. The problem was a few tiny radial gauges on the face of the valve, even though it was a new one. I had lapped the valves to the seats, but it didn't bridge those gouges, and I didn't notice. I had the valve face ground, and it was only slightly better (that's when I noticed it), so I stuck a new one in it and now it's fine. I still have some high EGT problem on two cylinders, so I'm looking at intake and fuel distribution matters at the moment. We beat this one to death a few months ago on CorvAircraft. I'm sure I could fly it right now, but would rather get it right. I'm not used to owning engines that do things that I have no explanation for. I just need the time to look at it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 14:39:03 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> N Number req for Registration To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You put the N number on the 8050 registration form. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Joseph H Horton Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 2:32 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> N Number req for Registration OK Guys, I reserved my number ( about my 10th choice) and credit carded the $10. Does this mean that I have to send another $10 or $5 in with my registration form? Also there is no place on any form that I saw so far that lets them know that you have reserved a number. Is there a way to let them know on the form ? Thanks Joe Horton On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:00:25 +0000 fuzzyjets@comcast.net writes: > the address is corrupted... should be.. > > http://162.58.35.241/e.gov/NN/resreqform.asp > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 14:47:14 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> New baby To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just got home last night with the new KR I bought from Sherman. She is bright yellow and will probably be named "Tweetie Pie". I will most likely sell the Midget Mustang now. The engine on the KR is a turbocharged Revmaster 2100 with about 40 hours on it. Since I live 28' above sea level I might sell the turbo. I also might sell the whole engine, mount, and prop ready to bolt onto another plane. I really have not decided what I am going to do yet, but if anyone is interrested send me an email offline at brian@engalt.com and I will let you know when I make up my mind. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:22:31 -0500 From: "haroldwoods" Subject: KR> Control surface failure. To: Message-ID: <002a01c4f048$01101800$0301a8c0@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Eduardo wants to know how I got down from 5000 feet. Well here goes. The object of that exercise was to test for power stalls. I also wanted to check it out for a wing drop on a violent stall. This was at about 35 hours into the testing.Up to about this time you could never let go of the stick because it would roll left.We found that when the wing was bolted onto the fuselage, it had hung up on the left side. and did not come down properly. This had twisted one wing. We were able to get the wing into a new and correct position.The question was would it still roll left? While I was at 5000 feet the mild stalls indicated there now was no roll on the stall. That was why I decided to do a violent power stall. I zoomed up to somewhere between 60 or 70 degrees, chopped the power and pulled back very hard on the stick.The Jodel has a peculiar 2 stick system. Provision had been made for two sticks but only one was installed on the pilot's side . A horizontal tube interconnected the two sticks. The passenger side at this moment in time was only an empty elbow pointing upwards. In the future the passenger stick would be inserted into the elbow. When the pilot's stick broke off at the floor level, all that remained was the horizontal extension with the empty elbow on it. The plane picked up speed in its vertical dive. I was over Mud Lake and could see the pads of bull rushes getting bigger.I pulled the trim tab to nose up but it was stuck. The plane has arbitrarily been red lined somewhere around 145 mph. It was now passing 180 mph. I tried to reach over the back seat to get at the elevator controllable but the floor in the baggage compartment prevented this. Then I noticed that the bull rushes were now moving down past the nose. The very high lift generated by the high speed was causing the plane to "climb". At 2000 feet it was level and starting to climb. At 4500 feet it stalled, again no fall off on the wings. As it stalled I applied full throttle, flattening the stall. Then power off and down we went again. It was a milder repetition this time . There were 3 roller-coaster dives. I was able to get it level at about 4000 feet. It flew perfectly level.I then inspected the break. I reasoned that if I could place the stick alongside the passengers horizontal portion and tie it to the elbow , I might regain control. In the luggage compartment was a screw driver. It was far too sloppy when set into the elbow. I got the yellow pencil from the log book, broke it into 3 pieces, placed them in the elbow and pushed the screw driver in between. It was much stiffer now.I took off my belt from my trousers, released my shoulder harness got my head down under the dash and proceed to wrap the belt around the stick and the horizontal tube.It was at this time that I realized the engine was revving up. I glanced over the panel in time to see the horizon vertical on the nose. It had rolled over and was nosing down into another dive. I grabbed the elbow and lifted it. This stopped to roll. By pulling back on the screwdriver I got it level again. I then took out the shoe laces from my shoes and laced the screwdriver and the broken stick together.This produced another roll over and dive but it was now much easier to control. This was a day which was sunny, no wind, no bumps. Just a perfect day. No traffic around our small airport. I reduced speed to 65 mph and tried gentle turns. It was good in roll but sloppy in pitch. A long 5 mile approach was made .A gentle decent rate was controlled by throttle.The approach took us over the tree tops , over a bay, over the far shore , over the fence and onto the grass runway for a painted on landing. Cut the throttle, turn off to my parking spot and stop. I sure was glad to get down in one piece. In 3 days the controls had been fixed and the plane inspected for poor welds. I took it up and it flew like an angel. I think that there was one riding on my shoulder that eventful day. The moral of this tale seems to be: 1) get good welds . 2) install a trim tab that works over all speed ranges. 3) ensure that the plane will fly level without touching the stick at normal glide speed. 4) get a guardian angel and always fly with her. Sorry that this got so long winded. Harold Woods Orillia,ON. Can. harold woods@rogers.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:35:59 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Control Surface Failure To: Message-ID: <20050101213601.TAVV5137.fed1rmmtao01.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Harold...and other netters; That was one of the best flying stories I've ever heard. I'm forwarding it to all of my flying buddies. RV ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:41:38 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Control Surface Failure To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <017e01c4f04a$acf881f0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RV wrote: > Harold...and other netters; > That was one of the best flying stories I've ever heard. I'm forwarding it to all of my flying buddies. The only way it could have been any better was if there'd been some bubble gum in there somewhere... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:01:19 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Control Surface Failure To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006601c4f04d$71158400$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > The only way it could have been any better was if there'd been some > bubble gum in there somewhere... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama I would bet there was and he used it to plug his a$$ so he wouldn't $h!t all over his self. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:35:00 EST From: SkyVisionSC@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> New baby To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <54.3ac1e1b1.2f088da4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Brian... You're breaking my heart! I already miss her, and haven't even cashed your check yet! Best of luck with her, and please call me when you're ready to fly. I'll gladly drive to Jax to witness it. Have a happy and prosperous new year!...Sherman ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 20:38:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Jack Cooper Subject: Re: KR> Germany vacation To: KRnet Message-ID: <9604540.1104629934795.JavaMail.root@donald.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also want to say thanks to Mark for sharing his Germany vacation photos. My wife and I have viewed two pages and many of the pictures were a walk down memory lane for us because we have visited many of the same places during our stay in Germany and then again on vacation there in 1996. I was stationed in Frankfurt for 3 years while in the Army. We really enjoyed living and traveling in Germany,and many other neighboring countries but unlike you Mark, when my 3 years were up I was ready to come home because I lived in Military quarters and the only place to work on projects was in the hobby and craft shops that the military provided. They were great because they furnished the tools and training if you didn't have it but the only problem was that it put you and your projects on their schedule so coming home gave lots more freedom to do some of the things I loved to do. I also agree with your method of planning your trip to Germany. We took one bus tour while in Germany and ended up seperated on the bus and then the tour guide got us lost and at one rest stop after warning everyone to be back on the bus on time She was the one that was late which threw the whole tour behind schedule. After that we planned our own trips and drove our old Checy van all over western Europe, even to Berlin - while there was still an East Germany and Berlin was a divided city. Thanks again Mark Jack Cooper Jack Cooper -----Original Message----- From: jeffyork40@qx.net Sent: Jan 1, 2005 1:22 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Germany vacation webpage Mark, I actually enjoyed the change of pace that you brought with the pictures of your Germany vacation. What a beautiful place and how fortunate that you where able to share this with your family and to extend that to your KR family. Thank you very much. I hope that in this new year that more KR members will share pictures of more of the custom work and solutions they come up with in their KR ventures. As the saying goes. pictures are worth a thousand words. You can see my new homepage at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ Jeff York Lexington, KY KR-2 N839BG http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: KR> Germany vacation webpage > KRNetHeads, > > Just so I'll have some KR content, I took a few pictures of cutaway aircraft > engines in the Deutches Museum. Here's a sample of a VW Type1 > Limbach, at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/germany/0410110918.jpg , > that I took on our > recent vacation to Germany. > > It's Friday, so maybe I can get away with this. Some of y'all > probably have > the day off and some time to kill. You might remember that I promised > a web > page detailing our German vacation, eventually. It's finally done, at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/germany/ . Obviously I have a lot of time > invested in this web page (it's 420 pictures, and is 33Mb big)... time which > I really should have been working on my plane. Most people I've > showed it too have raved over it, so it's probably not a complete > waste of your time. > If you're on dialup, start it downloading and come back in an hour so > you don't find yourself waiting for each image to load. 33M is a lot > of stuff, > and although I've never seen it happen, it wouldn't surprise me if it became > "unavailable" because of the bandwidth. But I don't really think > HiWAAY has > a bandwidth limit, so we'll find out. > > I ran my KR's Corvair engine some yesterday, and intend to spend the > next three days working on the KR. I've fixed the slight compression > problem I had on number 6, and will be checking the intake system next. One bank > seems to be running richer than the other, as unlikely as that seems. I > really haven't done much with it in the last few weeks due to demands > from the workplace, holiday family stuff, and preventative maintenance > on the wife's Audi. I'm getting back around to it, although it looks > like I'll be > going back to Germany (on business) for up to two months early in > 2005. I'd > better get it in gear! > > Y'all have a good one... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:50:55 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: KR> Avgas cost To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <000b01c4f07e$42f64d80$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi Gang, Just curious, what is the price of avgas in the U.S at the moment? It works out at about $3.91 U.S for a U.S Gallon over here in Australia at the moment!!!!! Gavin -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 21:56:59 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Avgas cost To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00ba01c4f07f$20f73040$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Today, I paid $2.80 a gallon. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glasseyegav" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:50 PM Subject: KR> Avgas cost Hi Gang, Just curious, what is the price of avgas in the U.S at the moment? It works out at about $3.91 U.S for a U.S Gallon over here in Australia at the moment!!!!! Gavin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 1 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================