From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 121 Date: 3/22/2005 9:00:18 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Langford to fly (Joseph H. Horton) 2. Re: Stub wing (Joseph H. Horton) 3. Parachute FAR (Wesley Scott) 4. Re: Mark Jones' KR (Orma) 5. Band saw blades. (Jack Cooper) 6. Re: Band saw blades. (Phillip Matheson) 7. Re: Parachute FAR (Dan Heath) 8. aerobatic certified KR (larry flesner) 9. Band saw blades. (Kevin Jarvis) 10. Tweety's Leaking Turbo (Orma) 11. RE: Band saw blades. (Brian Kraut) 12. O-200 instrument markings (Brian Kraut) 13. Re: pitchers/update (Martha Crawford) 14. Re: Band saw blades. (Tinyauto@aol.com) 15. Re: O-200 instrument markings (Orma) 16. Re: Band saw blades. (Brant Hollensbe) 17. O-200 instrument markings (Kevin Jarvis) 18. RE: Band saw blades. (Doug Rupert) 19. Re: O-200 instrument markings (Kenneth B. Jones) 20. Re: O-200 instrument markings (Allen Wiesner ) 21. RE: Stub wing (Steve Bray) 22. Re: Stub wing (Steve Bray) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:24:30 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> Re: Langford to fly To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050322.162430.2960.2.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Today I filled out the paperwork for the KR forum at OSH, and > ammended my > "bio" to say "Mark Langford has built AND FLOWN a KR2S...", so I'm > on the > hook to have it done by then for sure. I'm shooting for Monday > (first day) > morning, or Tuesday at the latest for the forum. And I'll fly it to > the > Gathering if I have to leave a week early, Ya Know Guys--- With Langford's past history on the net around April 1st I'm not sure what to think of his threat to commit aviation. But I must say his plane has recovered well from that fire a few years ago. Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:31:37 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> Stub wing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050322.163137.2960.3.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mine is 7' - 3 " Joe On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:24:15 -0700 Ferris John-RA8177 writes: > Can anyone tell how wide the KR2s is with just the stub wing? I need > to pick up a project and have to select a trailer. > > Thanks, > John > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:57:30 -0600 From: "Wesley Scott" Subject: KR> Parachute FAR To: "krnet" Message-ID: <000e01c52f2a$27530010$b6a60a04@pbrain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 06:12:55 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Parachutes >Not to talk down or belittle anyone, but read closely what the wording >is: each occupant shall.... That means anyone on board pilot included. No exception is made to while solo, or receiving dual, or not in an approved acrobatic aircraft. The aircraft does not determine the requirement, the maneuver executed by the pilot. The parachute requirement extends to all occupants on board, not to all PASSENGERS. Also, when dealing with the Regs, please be very careful about looking at one paragraph in a given section. Often the subordinate paragraphs will refer back to the opening paragraph or even a preceding reg for part of its definition. Rarely does one reg stand alone. ----- Colin, Where are you getting the wording "each occupant shall"? Also, there are specific exemptions in part (d) for receiving dual and taking flight tests. A pilot flying solo is NOT "carrying any person (other than a crewmember)". Therefore, no parachute should be required. I do agree that if there is a passenger on board, then the pilot is required to wear a parachute not just the passenger. -- wesley scott kr2@spottedowl.biz Copied from http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=fddeee2e7dfca311b9f07ee95668b7ce&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.3.10.4.7.4&idno=14 91.307 part a & b not included (c) Unless each occupant of the aircraft is wearing an approved parachute, no pilot of a civil aircraft carrying any person (other than a crewmember) may execute any intentional maneuver that exceeds- (1) A bank of 60 degrees relative to the horizon; or (2) A nose-up or nose-down attitude of 30 degrees relative to the horizon. (d) Paragraph (c) of this section does not apply to- (1) Flight tests for pilot certification or rating; or (2) Spins and other flight maneuvers required by the regulations for any certificate or rating when given by- (i) A certificated flight instructor; or (ii) An airline transport pilot instructing in accordance with §61.67 of this chapter. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:59:35 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Mark Jones' KR To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <022801c52f2a$707317d0$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I guess I could have checked on Sunday afternoon and caught Langford lagging on updating the list. Next time ;o) Oscar, I did check on Sunday afternoon and it was done. I can't remember the time, but I was impressed. Way to go Mark L. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:00:25 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: KR> Band saw blades. To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <410-22005322222025156@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone on the net weld band saw blades and have some stock for metal cutting blades. I can't buy metal cutting blades for my band saw and would gladly pay for some. Or does anyone know somewhere on the net to buy custom made blades? Jack Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:30:17 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Band saw blades. To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002a01c52f2e$b9a29c10$d831ddcb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jack In Australia, We have people who deal in sharpening tools , saws eg. The Saw Doctor, These people stock multi band, saw blades and make any sized blade,They weld them to any length. I'm sure there would be such a company in the US !!!!! Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:41:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Parachute FAR To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <42409F20.00000C.02448@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe my instructor did not know what he was doing, but I took a 5 hour course in aerobatics in a Citabria and neither of us wore a parachute. I was just reading that FAR yesterday and should have cut out the part about this stuff. It, along with the rest of them, is a hard FAR to understand. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:02:09 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> aerobatic certified KR To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050322190209.0083c5f0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >You can also voluntarily reenter the test phase in 5 hour blocks at any >time to establish the aerobatic capability. >Larry Severson +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thank you. That crossed my mind after I hit "enter" and sent the e-mail. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:42:03 -0500 From: Kevin Jarvis Subject: KR> Band saw blades. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <4240D77B.50108@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Jack, Using Google and these words without the quotes "metal cutting bandsaw blades" brings up a plethora of hits, many of which have customs lengths for sale. You might also try Thomas at: http://www.thomasnet.com/home.html?homelogo=1&navsec=header They will have anything that you can think of listed ........... Kevin N741T ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:47:46 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: KR> Tweety's Leaking Turbo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <027001c52f52$b2b35c90$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Net As some of you know I have been fighting to resolve a leaking turbo. I have been working to systematically find what causes the leak. I rebuilt the turbo with no success and have finally resolved myself to install a scavenge pump to help remove the oil from the return side of the turbo. If you would like to see some pictures, and have the time to wait on some rather large files, you can go to http://kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/Turbo%20Oil%20Leak.htm Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:55:42 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Band saw blades. To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You can get several sizes at www.use-enco.com. They have a lot of sizes, but not everything. My saw uses an 80" blade and I can't get it from Enco, but I can get them at Sears for a fairly low quality blade at a high price. I have been thinking of buying a 100' roll and having a shop we use at work weld me up a bunch of blades. If you, or anyone else, can't find what you need let me know and I will get a price. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Jack Cooper Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:00 PM To: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft; KR builders and pilots Subject: KR> Band saw blades. Does anyone on the net weld band saw blades and have some stock for metal cutting blades. I can't buy metal cutting blades for my band saw and would gladly pay for some. Or does anyone know somewhere on the net to buy custom made blades? Jack Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:00:39 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> O-200 instrument markings To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have been trying with no luck to find the correct engine instrument markings to use on an O-200. I know the oil temp and pressure and CHT red lines from the service manual, but I don't know where to start and end the yellow and green arcs, actually it has been a while since I have flown a powered plane and I can't remember if I need yellow arcs. I know this is an item that will stop the DAR cold so if anyone knows what to use let me know. I did find some Cessna 150 instrument panel pictures on the net, but they just have the arcs with no corresponding numbers I can use. Perhaps the numbers are in a 150 manual if someone has one handy. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:00:07 -0500 From: Martha Crawford Subject: Re: KR> pitchers/update To: k.jarvis@mchsi.com, KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed hi netters congratulations Mark on your first flight do you have any first flight photos? Also for the other mark ''langford" hows it coming. are the wing on yet??? I think it would be inspirational to see, or for me any way. Keith Crawford Lansing MI martha@simerson.net www.u-r-on.net/~crawfords ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:02:19 EST From: Tinyauto@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Band saw blades. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Some band saws have blade welders built into them. The one I use at work has this feature. Find someone with this and you should get a blade for almost nothing. Kevin. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:19:04 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> O-200 instrument markings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <027b01c52f57$12463b60$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Brian Perhaps there is a C150 owners group on the net that you could ask. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:34:33 -0600 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: Re: KR> Band saw blades. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001201c52f59$3afe8240$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Another source to make custom band saw lengths is your local vocational tech school or Industrial Technology Department at a University. Most have industrial band saws with the blade welder and anneling attachment to teach the students. Just contact the department or the Industrial tech student club. Of, course, You have to supply the length of saw blade, and a student will weld it up. The students will almost always help you out for 'Donation' to their club. About 30 years ago, I and 3 other guys spent a Saturday morning welding up some blades for a blacksmith shop. It paid for our clubs homecomming float. Brant Hollensbe Bhollensbe@mchsi.com DSM ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:57:58 -0500 From: Kevin Jarvis Subject: KR> O-200 instrument markings To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <4240E946.6010009@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brian, The correct limits will be listed on the Type Certificate Data Sheets. You will find that information here: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet It takes awhile to dig this information out, so be patient. No one in a Cessna 150 Users group can tell you that they have the "100% correct" information unless they are quoting the TCDS, but this is what was used when the engine was certified. Kevin ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:06:12 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Band saw blades. To: , "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <003b01c52f5d$a78914d0$bd04e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Jack send me the length and I'll see what's available. Doug -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:10:20 -0500 From: "Kenneth B. Jones" Subject: Re: KR> O-200 instrument markings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <018601c52f5e$3ca932c0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> Brian, Following is from a 1970 C-150 Owner's Manual. Oil pressure 10 psi - red line 30-60 psi - green arc 100 psi - red line Oil temp: Values not defined for green arc 225 F - red line Tach: Sea level 2000-2550 - inner green arc 5000 ft 2000-2650 - middle green arc 10000 ft 2000-2750 - outer green arc max allowable 2750 - red line CHT & EGT not mentioned. Ken Jones, kenbjones@cinci.rr.com Sharonville, OH N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" >I have been trying with no luck to find the correct engine instrument > markings to use on an O-200. I know the oil temp and pressure and CHT red > lines from the service manual, but I don't know where to start and end the > yellow and green arcs, actually it has been a while since I have flown a > powered plane and I can't remember if I need yellow arcs. ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:07:21 -0500 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> O-200 instrument markings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005e01c52f5d$d0679340$6a11da42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For the 1973 C-150L manual that I have, the markings for the O-200-A are: Oil Pressure: Minimum Idling 10 psi (red line) Normal Operating Range 30 - 60 psi (green arc) Maximum 100 psi (red line) Oil Temperature Gage: Normal Operating Range Green Arc (that's all it says, honest) Maximum Allowable 240 degrees F (red line) Fuel Quantity Indicators: Empty E (red line) Tachometer: Normal Operating Range: At sea level 2000 - 2550 RPM (inner green arc) At 5000 feet 2000 - 2650 RPM (middle green arc) At 10,000 feet 2000 - 2750 RPM (outer green arc) Maximum Allowable 2750 RPM (red line) Suction Gage (Gyro System): Normal Operating Range 4.6 - 5.4 in. Hg (green arc) There are also several airspeed markings, but I assume that those would not apply for your usage. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:29:44 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: RE: KR> Stub wing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Can anyone tell how wide the KR2s is with just the stub wing? I need to >pick up a project and have to select a trailer. John 86 inches. I used a board set across the trailer rails and set the nain gear on it, Steve ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:48:22 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: Re: KR> Stub wing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >The main spar is something like 84" wide, so add three inches for WAFs >sticking out and you're up to 87". But the wheels should be considerably >closer together, depending on how it was built. It might fit on a a 6' >wide >trailer, but that all depends on the wheel spacing... John Now that I think of it the wheels were wider than the stubs. This is something that would have put me in a real bind if the gentleman I got it from hadn't run into this and dealt with it. Thanks again Jim If you want to contact me off list I will send you a pic of how we did it. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee. > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 121 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================