From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 13 Date: 1/9/2005 8:04:23 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Ed Sterba Mail Address (Dan Heath) 2. Re: Ed Sterba Mail Address (Mark Jones) 3. Re: Ed Sterba Mail Address (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 4. Book recommendation (Brian Kraut) 5. Re: Is a KR1 a LSA? (Rick Human) 6. Two new pics (Dan Heath) 7. KR Newsletter (Mark Jones) 8. RE: Is a KR1 a LSA? (Brian Kraut) 9. Flight report from Colin Rainey (Dan Heath) 10. Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? (Randy Smith ) 11. Re: Flight report from Colin Rainey (Barry Kruyssen) 12. 2005 KR Gathering (larry flesner) 13. Re: 2005 KR Gathering (Brant Hollensbe) 14. Corvair mount KR2 (Cowgirl2fly@aol.com) 15. Re: Is a KR1 a LSA? (Rick Human) 16. Re: Ed Sterba Mail Address (JIM VANCE) 17. RE: 2005 KR Gathering (Brian Kraut) 18. How Many Days??? (Mark Jones) 19. Re: Is a KR1 a LSA? (Chris P) 20. Re: Corvair mount KR2 (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:27:35 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Ed Sterba Mail Address To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41E13147.000003.00184@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anybody have a current e-mail address for Ed? I told Steve that it was not valid but no change yet. Also, do you know if that is the place to go to get a crush plate for one of his props? See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:52:33 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Ed Sterba Mail Address To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001401c4f652$7e04a000$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ed Sterba 513 68 Street Holmes Beach, FL 34217 At least that was it one years ago when I bought my prop from him. Crush plates can be bought at AS&S however I bought mine on eBay for $6.00. What a deal. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" > Anybody have a current e-mail address for Ed? I told Steve that it was > not valid but no change yet. > > Also, do you know if that is the place to go to get a crush plate for > one of > his props? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:13:25 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> Ed Sterba Mail Address To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002d01c4f65d$c4bb09c0$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Here's his email address. Bud ed_sterba@excite.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:27 AM Subject: KR> Ed Sterba Mail Address > Anybody have a current e-mail address for Ed? I told Steve that it was > not valid but no change yet. > > > > Also, do you know if that is the place to go to get a crush plate for > one > of > his props? > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:12:17 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> Book recommendation To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am about half way through reading Kent Paser's "Speed With Economy". I highly recommend it to all of you speed freaks out there trying to squeeze out every bit of speed you can from your KRs. There are a lot of mods in the book that have been discussed on the KR Net before and a lot of new ones. Kent has been squeezing more speed out of a Mustang II for twenty something years and has done an excellent job describing the mods and evaluating each one individualy for what it added. He was able to add 64 MPH to the top speed, climb performance, and increased fuel economy without puting in a bigger engine which is nothing short of amazing. Spruce stocks it for about $25 and I think it is well worth every penny. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:20:26 -0600 From: "Rick Human" Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c4f6a1$cdcabd00$9ad4dacf@compaq> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I don't think I missed any points - I was answering the question as to why anyone would want to go from 160 to 140. I've been following the KR for better than 20 yrs - construction of mine (now in flight test) for 18 - I'm convinced that if you go back and search the archives as well as the old KR newsletter you will find that the average with anything under 100hp is a 140 mph airplane. The only question is the "clean" stall speed and there is documentation out ther that a < 50 mph stall is also achievable (espically with the 3 ft wing extension as on the Diehl wing skins). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Smith " To: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > You missed the point. There are a lot of planes that fit into the LSA > category. His is a sail plane,It fits. I could be wrong but I think > you are > going to have a hard time convincing the (friendly) FAA that a KR will > fit.There are to many already out there and they have a reputation for > speed. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Human" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > > > If you ever had to put out >$4k in medical tests to satisfy the FAA > > you would know why. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Randy Smith " > > To: "gleone" ; "KRnet" > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:38 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > > > > >>Why > >> build a 160 mph plane down to 130 mph? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:41:43 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Two new pics To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41E1C137.000018.01808@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jerry came over and we installed the electronic ignition. I fully intended to document the process with pictures and even took the camera, but we got so wrapped up in what we were doing that I completely forgot about taking pics until we were finished. It really was not as difficult as I had thought. We used the stock clamp instead of drilling and taping into the case. I need to get another bolt before I will know if it will clamp tight or not. If it does not, then drill and tap and no harm done. You can see the wired coils and how they are installed in the first two pics on this page. http://kr-builder.org/FirewallForward/index.html Next, the fuel system. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:59:38 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> KR Newsletter To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <001801c4f6a7$4d768200$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I really wanted to do my first flight this weekend but the weather here simply did not allow it. Since I had some free time on my hands, I decided to look through all the old Newsletters. I really do miss those old fashioned printed Newsletters. It was great to just thumb through all the nostalgia and refresh myself with KR history and who did what. I know we all have moved into the age of computers and little round plastic discs that hold tons of information but there is nothing in comparison to the old Newsletters where you can simply hold one and read it. I wish these would be brought back by someone...I would be the first to subscribe. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:40:15 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Can't comment on the rest, but I can say that my stock KR-2 would stall under 50 MPH. It wouldn't do that at gross, but if you built a light KR, kept the gross weight low, and added a few feet to the wing, or better yet, a few feet to the stubs, you could easily have a stall speed under 50. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Rick Human Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:20 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? I don't think I missed any points - I was answering the question as to why anyone would want to go from 160 to 140. I've been following the KR for better than 20 yrs - construction of mine (now in flight test) for 18 - I'm convinced that if you go back and search the archives as well as the old KR newsletter you will find that the average with anything under 100hp is a 140 mph airplane. The only question is the "clean" stall speed and there is documentation out ther that a < 50 mph stall is also achievable (espically with the 3 ft wing extension as on the Diehl wing skins). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Smith " To: Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:05 PM Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > You missed the point. There are a lot of planes that fit into the LSA > category. His is a sail plane,It fits. I could be wrong but I think > you are > going to have a hard time convincing the (friendly) FAA that a KR will > fit.There are to many already out there and they have a reputation for > speed. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Human" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > > > If you ever had to put out >$4k in medical tests to satisfy the FAA > > you would know why. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Randy Smith " > > To: "gleone" ; "KRnet" > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:38 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > > > > >>Why > >> build a 160 mph plane down to 130 mph? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:18:52 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Flight report from Colin Rainey To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41E1D7FC.00001C.01808@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" As of today 6.6 hrs on the hobbs, 2 flights, 1 yesterday and one today. Still not happy with the prop. Think I either have way too much prop or retarded timing alittle too much prop. Anyhow, testing going well. Simulated a person with 100# today and went well with climb and maneuvers. Landing left alittle to be desired as I bounced very slightly twice! Just up a couple of inches, but enough to irritate me. Yesterday shot 6 landings, and all were on the money, greasers to make mom proud! Guess I have to anticipate the effects of the weight. Also flew to practice area today and found that in all directions the ASI was off 10 knots from the GPS. I think this is due to the static port, so I will disconnect the port and try again. If this is closer then I will relocate to the rear fuselage in the future as you suggested, but for now will use cabin static, knowing there is a slight variance there as well. She got alittle busy with the new weight, but nothing that was unsafe, just kept wanting to lift the nose. I do not have adjustable trim so this meant having to maintain forward pressure on the stick. Later I think I will install elevator trim, even mechanical for this reason. Engine ran like a top! Oil still looks brand new from the change. Alternator still stinks, not charging more than 12 volts below 2000rpms but fine above at 13.5 volts. Will try to get some pictures from in-flight, no chase plane, so will be from inside. Working on video, but coming slow... FLY SAFE! Colin & Beverly Rainey Apex Lending, Inc. www.eloan2004cr.com crainey@apexlending.com 407-323-6960 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:42:06 -0600 From: "Randy Smith " Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? To: Message-ID: <003e01c4f6b5$97962710$bfc8b944@home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Smith " To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:36 PM Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > If I read it right,The top speed can't exceed 130 mph My last KR2 > cruised > at 140 mph with a 2180 and after engine change to a O-200 it went a hole > lot faster. I now have Bud Wilson's KR2 with a Subaru and am planning on > cleaning it up. I have removed the Subaru and I am looking for an O-200. > Anybody interested in a Subaru firewall forward I have one. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Kraut" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:40 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > >> Can't comment on the rest, but I can say that my stock KR-2 would >> stall under 50 MPH. It wouldn't do that at gross, but if you built a >> light KR, kept the gross weight low, and added a few feet to the >> wing, or better yet, a few feet to the stubs, you could easily have a >> stall speed under 50. >> >> Brian Kraut >> Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >> www.engalt.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net >> [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of >> Rick Human >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:20 PM >> To: KRnet >> Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >> >> I don't think I missed any points - I was answering the question as >> to >> why >> anyone would want to go from 160 to 140. >> >> I've been following the KR for better than 20 yrs - construction of >> mine (now in flight test) for 18 - I'm convinced that if you go back >> and search the archives as well as the old KR newsletter you will >> find that the average >> with anything under 100hp is a 140 mph airplane. The only question is the >> "clean" stall speed and there is documentation out ther that a < 50 mph >> stall is also achievable (espically with the 3 ft wing extension as on >> the >> Diehl wing skins). >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Randy Smith " >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:05 PM >> Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >> >>> You missed the point. There are a lot of planes that fit into the >>> LSA category. His is a sail plane,It fits. I could be wrong but I >>> think you >> are >>> going to have a hard time convincing the (friendly) FAA that a KR >>> will fit.There are to many already out there and they have a >>> reputation for speed. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Rick Human" >>> To: "KRnet" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM >>> Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >>> >>> >>> > If you ever had to put out >$4k in medical tests to satisfy the >>> > FAA >>> > you >>> > would know why. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Randy Smith " >>> > To: "gleone" ; "KRnet" >>> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:38 PM >>> > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >>> > >>> > >>> >>Why >>> >> build a 160 mph plane down to 130 mph? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________ >>> > Search the KRnet Archives at >>> > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >>> > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:33 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Flight report from Colin Rainey To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <0a6501c4f6b9$da1e7bb0$d000a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Great flight report Colin. With regards to the trim, Many gliders do not have a control surface trim, instead they use a spring (or springs) to trim the aircraft. As my elevator is not balanced, but I do have a trim control surface, I attached a length of shock cord (stretch bungy cord) to my top elevator cable and stretched it through the seat back to hold my elevator level and tied it off (not adjustable). I hardly need to use my trim. (NOTE: in sailing we use shock cord into cleats to assist in trimming some of the smaller sailing boats, this is where I got the idea) I intend to use the adjustable idea on the right rudder cable to trim the aircraft during climb and cruise (on decent no rudder is required, on cruise only the slightest right rudder is required) The advantage of shock cord is that being stretchy you can override the trim with normal control inputs In your case you could extend the shock cord into a cleat and make your trim adjustable via the shock cord. Tonight I'll be going to the airport so I will take so photos of my shock cord and add to my WEB page, I'll post the link tomorrow. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/KR2.htm ----- Original Message ----- Subject: KR> Flight report from Colin Rainey She got alittle busy with the new weight, but nothing that was unsafe, just kept wanting to lift the nose. I do not have adjustable trim so this meant having to maintain forward pressure on the stick. Later I think I will install elevator trim, even mechanical for this reason. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:12:34 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> 2005 KR Gathering To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050109201234.0080aba0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Netters, The announcement that everyone has been waiting for. The 2005 KR Gathering will be held on September 9, 10, and 11 at Mt.Vernon, Illinois. Friday the 9th and Saturday the 10th will be the two big days as usual. Early arrivals will start showing up on Thursday, the 8th and everyone leaves on Sunday the 11th. Several will be disappointed that it is not held earlier in the summer, I'm sure, but all things considered, early September seemed to work out best. Hopefully the early September date will beat the summer heat and miss the later september storms. I will attempt to start posting the info necessary for planning your trip to the Gathering over the course of the next several weeks. I'll let you know when Bob Lee has a chance to update the KR Gathering.org web page. Plan to bring your spouse this year as the Gathering will be taking place the same weekend as the annual Arts and Crafts Fair in Mt. Vernon. Should be plenty for them to do and see. It's not too early for those wanting to host the 2006 Gathering to start doing their homework either. Trust me, it takes more than an idle thought to make it happen. Stay tuned......... Larry Flesner 2005 KR Gathering Host ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:31:20 -0600 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: Re: KR> 2005 KR Gathering To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c4f6bc$7855f400$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Only 242 days till we all meet again!!!! Thanks for all your effort Larry. Last year was just too awesome for words!! Brant Hollensbe Bhollensbe@mchsi.com DSM ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:36:00 EST From: Cowgirl2fly@aol.com Subject: KR> Corvair mount KR2 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <30.6993c03b.2f134410@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Greetings... I've been working on my Corvair engine mount for my KR2. The engine tray is complete but I'm unable to find the length of the tubes from the tray to the fire wall in the manual Can anyone give me a hand with this ? Patricia ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:34:10 -0600 From: "Rick Human" Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001701c4f6bc$de640d40$67e9dacf@compaq> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" LSA Top is 120 knots = @138 mph. Trade a little top speed for climb with a prop adjustment, which is just what Sonex folks are doing and it fits the LSA guidelines. That fits my lifestyle and I don't have to build another aircraft to fly without the medical. End of story. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Smith " To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:42 PM Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Smith " > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:36 PM > Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > > > If I read it right,The top speed can't exceed 130 mph My last KR2 cruised > > at 140 mph with a 2180 and after engine change to a O-200 it went a > > hole lot faster. I now have Bud Wilson's KR2 with a Subaru and am > > planning on cleaning it up. I have removed the Subaru and I am > > looking for an O-200. Anybody interested in a Subaru firewall > > forward I have one. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Kraut" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:40 PM > > Subject: RE: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > > > > >> Can't comment on the rest, but I can say that my stock KR-2 would > >> stall under 50 MPH. It wouldn't do that at gross, but if you built > >> a light KR, > >> kept the gross weight low, and added a few feet to the wing, or > >> better yet, a few feet to the stubs, you could easily have a stall > >> speed under 50. > >> > >> Brian Kraut > >> Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > >> www.engalt.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net > >> [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf > >> Of Rick Human > >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:20 PM > >> To: KRnet > >> Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > >> > >> > >> I don't think I missed any points - I was answering the question as > >> to why anyone would want to go from 160 to 140. > >> > >> I've been following the KR for better than 20 yrs - construction of mine > >> (now in flight test) for 18 - I'm convinced that if you go back and > >> search the archives as well as the old KR newsletter you will find > >> that the average > >> with anything under 100hp is a 140 mph airplane. The only question is the > >> "clean" stall speed and there is documentation out ther that a < 50 > >> mph stall is also achievable (espically with the 3 ft wing > >> extension as on the Diehl wing skins). > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Randy Smith " > >> To: > >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:05 PM > >> Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > >> > >> > >>> You missed the point. There are a lot of planes that fit into the > >>> LSA category. His is a sail plane,It fits. I could be wrong but I > >>> think you > >> are > >>> going to have a hard time convincing the (friendly) FAA that a KR > >>> will fit.There are to many already out there and they have a > >>> reputation for speed. > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Rick Human" > >>> To: "KRnet" > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM > >>> Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > >>> > >>> > >>> > If you ever had to put out >$4k in medical tests to satisfy the > >>> > FAA you would know why. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > From: "Randy Smith " > >>> > To: "gleone" ; "KRnet" > >>> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:38 PM > >>> > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >>Why > >>> >> build a 160 mph plane down to 130 mph? > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________ > >>> > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >>> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > >>> > KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at > >>> > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________ > >>> Search the KRnet Archives at > >>> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> Search the KRnet Archives at > >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> Search the KRnet Archives at > >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:59:52 -0600 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: Re: KR> Ed Sterba Mail Address To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000d01c4f6c0$75cf7360$0400a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Anybody have a current e-mail address for Ed? I told Steve that it was > not valid but no change yet. > > > > Also, do you know if that is the place to go to get a crush plate for > one of > his props? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The most current address I have for Ed Sterba is Ed_Sterba@excite.com. Don't know if it is still good. My crush plate came with my engine from Great Plains. Contact Linda or Steve. They probably have them for sale separate from the engine. Jim Vance > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:54:38 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> 2005 KR Gathering To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Only 223 days! That is enough time for me to get both KRs and the Stang flying! Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:13 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> 2005 KR Gathering Netters, The announcement that everyone has been waiting for. The 2005 KR Gathering will be held on September 9, 10, and 11 at Mt.Vernon, Illinois. Friday the 9th and Saturday the 10th will be the two big days as usual. Early arrivals will start showing up on Thursday, the 8th and everyone leaves on Sunday the 11th. Several will be disappointed that it is not held earlier in the summer, I'm sure, but all things considered, early September seemed to work out best. Hopefully the early September date will beat the summer heat and miss the later september storms. I will attempt to start posting the info necessary for planning your trip to the Gathering over the course of the next several weeks. I'll let you know when Bob Lee has a chance to update the KR Gathering.org web page. Plan to bring your spouse this year as the Gathering will be taking place the same weekend as the annual Arts and Crafts Fair in Mt. Vernon. Should be plenty for them to do and see. It's not too early for those wanting to host the 2006 Gathering to start doing their homework either. Trust me, it takes more than an idle thought to make it happen. Stay tuned......... Larry Flesner 2005 KR Gathering Host _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:39:55 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> How Many Days??? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002101c4f6c6$132d2620$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Only 242 days till the most exciting KR Gathering EVER. Be there. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:42:20 -0500 From: "Chris P" Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000b01c4f6c6$650ee910$6600a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original remember i was asking about a KR1 i think with a small (1600) engine and climb prop, and maybe slightly longer wings, it would fit LSA... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Human" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > LSA Top is 120 knots = @138 mph. Trade a little top speed for climb > with a prop adjustment, which is just what Sonex folks are doing and > it fits the LSA guidelines. > > That fits my lifestyle and I don't have to build another aircraft to > fly without the medical. > > End of story. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Smith " > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:42 PM > Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Randy Smith " >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 7:36 PM >> Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >> >> > If I read it right,The top speed can't exceed 130 mph My last KR2 > cruised >> > at 140 mph with a 2180 and after engine change to a O-200 it went a >> > hole >> > lot faster. I now have Bud Wilson's KR2 with a Subaru and am planning >> > on >> > cleaning it up. I have removed the Subaru and I am looking for an >> > O-200. >> > Anybody interested in a Subaru firewall forward I have one. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Brian Kraut" >> > To: "KRnet" >> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:40 PM >> > Subject: RE: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> > >> > >> >> Can't comment on the rest, but I can say that my stock KR-2 would >> >> stall >> >> under 50 MPH. It wouldn't do that at gross, but if you built a light > KR, >> >> kept the gross weight low, and added a few feet to the wing, or >> >> better yet, a few feet to the stubs, you could easily have a stall >> >> speed under 50. >> >> >> >> Brian Kraut >> >> Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >> >> www.engalt.com >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net >> >> [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf >> >> Of Rick Human >> >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:20 PM >> >> To: KRnet >> >> Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think I missed any points - I was answering the question >> >> as to why anyone would want to go from 160 to 140. >> >> >> >> I've been following the KR for better than 20 yrs - construction >> >> of > mine >> >> (now in flight test) for 18 - I'm convinced that if you go back >> >> and search the archives as well as the old KR newsletter you will >> >> find that the average >> >> with anything under 100hp is a 140 mph airplane. The only question is > the >> >> "clean" stall speed and there is documentation out ther that a < >> >> 50 >> >> mph >> >> stall is also achievable (espically with the 3 ft wing extension as on >> >> the >> >> Diehl wing skins). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Randy Smith " >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:05 PM >> >> Subject: Fw: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >> >> >> >> >>> You missed the point. There are a lot of planes that fit into the >> >>> LSA category. His is a sail plane,It fits. I could be wrong but I >> >>> think > you >> >> are >> >>> going to have a hard time convincing the (friendly) FAA that a KR >> >>> will >> >>> fit.There are to many already out there and they have a reputation >> >>> for >> >>> speed. >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Rick Human" >> >>> To: "KRnet" >> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:32 AM >> >>> Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > If you ever had to put out >$4k in medical tests to satisfy the >> >>> > FAA you would know why. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> > From: "Randy Smith " >> >>> > To: "gleone" ; "KRnet" >> >>> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:38 PM >> >>> > Subject: Re: KR> Is a KR1 a LSA? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >>Why >> >>> >> build a 160 mph plane down to 130 mph? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________ >> >>> > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> >>> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to >> >>> > KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at >> >>> > http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________ >> >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >> >>> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> >>> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> >>> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:07:31 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Corvair mount KR2 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005501c4f793$13131f50$2489a70c@n56ml> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Patricia wrote: > I've been working on my Corvair engine mount for my KR2. The engine > tray is > complete but I'm unable to find the length of the tubes from the tray > to the > fire wall in the manual Can anyone give me a hand with this ? Do the photos about 2/3 of the way down at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/mount_fit.html help? In particular, http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/01112713.jpg ... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 13 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================