From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 185 Date: 5/10/2005 9:00:16 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Source for Hardware (Allen Wiesner ) 2. Re: Source for Hardware (Orma) 3. Re: Fitting Todd's Canopy (Phillip Matheson) 4. Wanted ....Kr2s wing attach fittings (Ron Smith) 5. Re: Fitting Todd's Canopy (Scott Cable) 6. Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering (rickcoy@comcast.net) 7. final weight and balance (Mark Langford) 8. Re: final weight and balance (Steven Phillabaum) 9. Re: Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering (Dennis Mingear) 10. ELT where to buy cheap (Lee Van Dyke) 11. Re: final weight and balance (Bob Glidden) 12. Re: final weight and balance (Dean Cooper) 13. Re: ELT where to buy cheap (Mark Jones) 14. Re: Re: KR> Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering (Steven Phillabaum) 15. Re: ELT where to buy cheap (Bob Glidden) 16. Cockpit size? (Michael Gaskins) 17. Re: Re: KR> Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering (Dennis Mingear) 18. Re: Cockpit size? (Bob Glidden) 19. RE: ELT where to buy cheap (Stephen Jacobs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 02:17:21 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: KR> Source for Hardware To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c55527$ee072ba0$531cda42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can anyone point me to a source for AN & MS hardware besides Aircraft Spruce and Wicks? What I'm really hoping for is the equivalent of a Mouser or Digikey. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.neta ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:53:14 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Source for Hardware To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007a01c5554e$782e2fb0$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Allen Try this place. Contact them and they may send you a catalog. sales@aeroworks.com Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:01:53 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Fitting Todd's Canopy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003201c55560$7159f770$a1b0dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I added a page to my web with some photo's of fitting a Todd's Canopy. I will add a few more as soon as I can. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/CanopyConstruction.html Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> Wanted ....Kr2s wing attach fittings To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050510213122.74490.qmail@web81708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone have any for a good price? Email me @ mercedesmann@yahoo.com Ron Smith ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> Fitting Todd's Canopy To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050510220738.849.qmail@web53004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Phil, Check-out how I built my turtle-deck,(http://www.kr-builder.org/ScottCable/index.html) My finished deck weighed half of what the RR deck weighs, and it's 3 inches wider. Looks great keep it up. S2 Phillip Matheson wrote: I added a page to my web with some photo's of fitting a Todd's Canopy. I will add a few more as soon as I can. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/CanopyConstruction.html Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:37:35 +0000 From: rickcoy@comcast.net Subject: KR> Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <051120050137.24559.428161DF000E291700005FEF220074567297010C050C079D@comcast.net> In the past, John Esch had floated the idea of a West Coast Gathering. Well, the Golden West Fly-In is coming up on June 3, 4, and 5, so I知 suggesting a bunch of us KR builders, flyers, and interested parties use it as a meeting place. I知 thinking we could get together on Saturday, June 4 for either lunch or dinner. I値l be coming up from Pacifica, and Scott Bailey of Belmont may be joining us. Last I talked to Steve Glover he was planning to fly in. Dave Hartz is not far away, in Novato -- Bennett Scheuer is also in the North Bay, so I知 thinking we could get together a good size crowd to sit and talk KRs. Have a look at www.goldenwestflyin.org/ . If you池e thinking of joining us, contact me at rickcoy@comcast.net and perhaps we can arrange carpools -- and KRpools. Rick Coykendall ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:32:07 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> final weight and balance To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <07fd01c555d1$a033ead0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" NetHeads, I rigged up my ailerons over the weekend. I was fairly amazed at how well it went. I had already made most of the cables and they were in place, but a couple were not cut to length and had fittings on the end yet. Plans that I made years ago fell right into place (after much head scratching), with only one real snafu. Still, my design could have used some more thought in the accessibility area! I did my "final" weight and balance Monday. Total empty weight is 732 pounds, but paint will probably add 12 pounds or so. The CG range with pilot and empty to full fuel is 16.4% to 19.8%, out of the 15% to 30% of chord range that is generally considered safe for the KR. Add a 227 lb passenger to get to the 1200lb gross and I'm at 26% chord. Total CG range from skinny pilot with no fuel to full gross is 4.5", or less than 10% chord. At gross weight, fuel shift is only 1" full to empty, moving forward as fuel is burned. I didn't just get lucky that it's "right", I've been checking weight and balance forever. I'm really a little further forward than where I want to end up, because the closer to neutral, the faster I'll go. But on the other hand, for somebody just starting out in the KR world, forward is just fine. I still haven't installed my backup battery, so it will go back in the fuselage somewhere, with some pretty small (maybe 16 ga) wires running to it. After all, it's not there to start the engine, just to keep me aloft during an emergency, and that doesn't take much current at all. It will be isolated from the rest of the system (except during charging) by a $3 Radio Shack diode. The 5 pound UPS "backup" battery will get me pretty close to the center of the range. I'll post my spreadsheet and the other gory details later... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:38:54 -0400 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: KR> final weight and balance To: KRnet Message-ID: <41b17n$105op93@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mark your numbers sound great and what I would like to have when at your stage. Looking forward to your post of the spreadsheet. > > Add a 227 lb passenger to get to the 1200lb gross and I'm at 26% > > chord. YEA MAN THATS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050511024331.1089.qmail@web51402.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not actually building yet, but I am gathering up parts, like a fuselage cowl, spar and so on. So I would be interested in a get together too. Denny ... rickcoy@comcast.net wrote: In the past, John Esch had floated the idea of a West Coast Gathering. Well, the Golden West Fly-In is coming up on June 3, 4, and 5, so I知 suggesting a bunch of us KR builders, flyers, and interested parties use it as a meeting place. I知 thinking we could get together on Saturday, June 4 for either lunch or dinner. I値l be coming up from Pacifica, and Scott Bailey of Belmont may be joining us. Last I talked to Steve Glover he was planning to fly in. Dave Hartz is not far away, in Novato -- Bennett Scheuer is also in the North Bay, so I知 thinking we could get together a good size crowd to sit and talk KRs. Have a look at www.goldenwestflyin.org/ . If you池e thinking of joining us, contact me at rickcoy@comcast.net and perhaps we can arrange carpools -- and KRpools. Rick Coykendall _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:25:19 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> ELT where to buy cheap To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000101c555d3$5d83db30$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Net, does anybody know who sells an inexpensive ELT? other than Aircraft Spruce, Wicks? Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:44:57 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> final weight and balance To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00e901c555d3$6ba4a5a0$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Nice job Mark.Looking forward to the spread sheet. . I'll post my spreadsheet and the other gory details later... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:47:55 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> final weight and balance To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006a01c555d3$d570ff60$0e02a8c0@playroom1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark wrote: > I did my "final" weight and balance Monday. Mark, Sounds like that first flight is getting close. Look forward to the first flight report. Good luck! Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL USA Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR Project at http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:49:56 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> ELT where to buy cheap To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006001c555d4$23424320$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" eBay Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Van Dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: KR> ELT where to buy cheap > Net, > > does anybody know who sells an inexpensive ELT? other than Aircraft Spruce, Wicks? > > Lee Van Dyke > Mesa AZ > Lee@vandyke5.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:51:46 -0400 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: Re: KR> Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering To: KRnet Message-ID: <41dob0$rcq4ud@mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I'm not actually building yet, but I am gathering up parts, like a > fuselage cowl, spar and so on. Denny ... > Denny, I read the net and collected parts for 3 years (Needed a place to build) before I started building. I really believe it has helped in the building process and time of build. Looking forward to your progress. Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:55:11 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> ELT where to buy cheap To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00ff01c555d4$d98a89d0$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original You might check Chief supply or Wag Aero > Net, > > does anybody know who sells an inexpensive ELT? other than Aircraft > Spruce, Wicks? > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:55:41 -0400 From: Michael Gaskins Subject: KR> Cockpit size? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <4281742D.1030800@winterfairy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was thinking about the KR2 as a kit option, but was worried about the cockpit size for my frame. I'm 5'10" and 230lbs (working getting the weight down, but there's no guarantees :)). Does that immediately eliminate the KR2 as an option? My only flight hours so far are in a Cessna 150 (which a lot of people say is cramped too though I don't find it bad at all) so any comparisons to that would be great. Thanks. Michael Gaskins ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:58:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: Re: KR> Golden West Fly In/West Coast KR Gathering To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050511025818.35459.qmail@web51409.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Steve, right now everything depends on my 3rd Class Medical. I'm undergoing a number of tests at the moment to determine why my BP is so high. So far we've looked at a lot of things with no real answers yet. Once I get the medical behind me I'll be moving forward quickly! Denny ... Any obstacle can be overcome ... it just takes the right attitude to get the job done! Steven Phillabaum wrote: > I'm not actually building yet, but I am gathering up parts, like a fuselage cowl, spar and so on. > Denny ... > Denny, I read the net and collected parts for 3 years (Needed a place to build) before I started building. I really believe it has helped in the building process and time of build. Looking forward to your progress. Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:58:23 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011c01c555d5$4c17f280$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original There are bigger guy's then you flying KR2's >I was thinking about the KR2 as a kit option, but was worried about the > cockpit size for my frame. I'm 5'10" and 230lbs > > Thanks. > > Michael Gaskins > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 05:19:53 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> ELT where to buy cheap To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001101c555d8$4fd170b0$7f64a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" does anybody know who sells an inexpensive ELT? other than Aircraft Spruce, Wicks? +++++++++++++++++++ RST Engineering - http://www.rst-engr.com/ Loads of good stuff for home builders Steve J ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 185 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================