From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 186 Date: 5/11/2005 7:14:20 AM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: @CHECK KR> Cockpit size? (Al Hawkins) 2. Cockpit size? (Lee Van Dyke) 3. RE: Cockpit size? (Golden, Kevin) 4. Re: Cockpit size? (Bob Glidden) 5. HOW MANY DAYS ??? (Mark Jones) 6. RE: Cockpit size? (Dan Heath) 7. Cockpit size (Colin & Bev Rainey) 8. Re: HOW MANY DAYS ??? (Dan Heath) 9. Re: Cockpit size (Mark Jones) 10. Re: HOW MANY DAYS ??? (Mark Jones) 11. KR web page (Mark Jones) 12. Re: Cockpit size (joe) 13. Re: HOW MANY DAYS ??? (Bill Page) 14. RE: Cockpit size (Mark Jones) 15. RE: HOW MANY DAYS ??? (Mark Jones) 16. Re: Cockpit size (joe) 17. Re: KR web page (Robert L. Stone) 18. RE: Cockpit size (Mark Jones) 19. final weight and balance (Oscar Zuniga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:05:15 -0700 From: "Al Hawkins" Subject: RE: @CHECK KR> Cockpit size? To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001a01c555de$a3455da0$6702a8c0@mycomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Michael I am 6'2" and 240 Lbs, and mine flies just fine with a 1835 VW, I built a stock KR2 with fixed gear. On the other hand I can not carry a passenger until I drop about 40 lbs. Al Hawkins Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Michael Gaskins Sent: May 10, 2005 7:56 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: @CHECK KR> Cockpit size? I was thinking about the KR2 as a kit option, but was worried about the cockpit size for my frame. I'm 5'10" and 230lbs (working getting the weight down, but there's no guarantees :)). Does that immediately eliminate the KR2 as an option? My only flight hours so far are in a Cessna 150 (which a lot of people say is cramped too though I don't find it bad at all) so any comparisons to that would be great. Thanks. Michael Gaskins _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:00:07 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> Cockpit size? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005301c555e6$4cfe4b20$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > AMEN BROTHER... > > I'M IN YOUR BOAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FLY IF I CUT A LEG OFF TO > LOSE 40 LBS > > LEE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Al Hawkins" > To: "'KRnet'" > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:05 PM > Subject: RE: @CHECK KR> Cockpit size? > > > > Hi Michael > > > > I am 6'2" and 240 Lbs, and mine flies just fine with a 1835 VW, I > > built a stock KR2 with fixed gear. On the other hand I can not carry > > a passenger until I drop about 40 lbs. > > > > Al Hawkins > > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > > Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On > > Behalf Of Michael Gaskins > > Sent: May 10, 2005 7:56 PM > > To: krnet@mylist.net > > Subject: @CHECK KR> Cockpit size? > > > > > > I was thinking about the KR2 as a kit option, but was worried about > > the cockpit size for my frame. I'm 5'10" and 230lbs (working > > getting the weight down, but there's no guarantees :)). Does that > > immediately eliminate the KR2 as an option? > > > > My only flight hours so far are in a Cessna 150 (which a lot of > > people say is cramped too though I don't find it bad at all) so any > > comparisons > > > > to that would be great. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Michael Gaskins > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:24:53 -0400 From: "Golden, Kevin" Subject: RE: KR> Cockpit size? To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain I would say look for another homebuilt. I am the same height, but 160 lbs and believe I am at the upper limit on pilot size. That is if I figure on the airplane carrying any gals or pals and some luggage. Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Gaskins [mailto:mbgaski@winterfairy.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:56 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Cockpit size? I was thinking about the KR2 as a kit option, but was worried about the cockpit size for my frame. I'm 5'10" and 230lbs (working getting the weight down, but there's no guarantees :)). Does that immediately eliminate the KR2 as an option? My only flight hours so far are in a Cessna 150 (which a lot of people say is cramped too though I don't find it bad at all) so any comparisons to that would be great. Thanks. Michael Gaskins _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html *The information contained in this message may be confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is for the use of the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying of the information in this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message.* ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 05:36:54 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <013b01c55615$599ed2d0$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have never seen his plane,but I know I seen bigger then 160lbs guys getting in planes at the gathering and flying passengers.I am 5' 10" and about 190 lbs and I plan on being able to fly passengers. I am the same height, but 160 lbs > and believe I am at the upper limit on pilot size. That is if I > figure on the airplane carrying any gals or pals and some luggage. > > Kevin. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Gaskins [mailto:mbgaski@winterfairy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 9:56 PM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Cockpit size? > > I was thinking about the KR2 as a kit option, but was worried about > the cockpit size for my frame. I'm 5'10" and 230lbs (working getting > the weight down, but there's no guarantees :)). Does that immediately > eliminate the KR2 as an option? > > My only flight hours so far are in a Cessna 150 (which a lot of people > say is cramped too though I don't find it bad at all) so any > comparisons to that would be great. > > Thanks. > > Michael Gaskins > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html *The > information contained in this message may be confidential and/or > subject to legal privilege, and is for the use of the intended > addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying of the > information in this message is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately > and delete this message.* > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 05:42:45 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <003301c55616$32eeb0a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 121 short days till the Gathering. WORK WORK WORK on your KR to get it ready. I think there should be a new award for KR that flew in with the most work to be done on it before it is finished. Just think, a semi finished KR would give builders a real perspective of what will actually fly. This has been your KR Gathering time frame update by Hal Minidaze. YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:43:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Cockpit size? To: Message-ID: <4281E1E9.000010.02260@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Michael, Come to the gathering and you will see all sizes and shapes of people flying KR2 and KR2S. Then decide for yourself. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -----Original Message----- Does that immediately eliminate the KR2 as an option? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:54:34 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Cockpit size To: Message-ID: <013a01c55617$d1d941c0$c7432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a KR2 built to plans, I am 5'5" tall, and 195 and I had to move the seat forward 5 inches to comfortably reach the rudder pedals, and see over the nose at the same time. The KR2S has even more room having added an additional bay forward and aft of the spar. Larry Flesner is not a small man, neither is Mark Jones, and they are having a blast with their KRs also. You build it, so build it to accommodate you! It is yours.... Corvair engine torn down, waiting on parts from Clark's Corvair.... Colin Sanford, FL ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:00:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? To: Message-ID: <4281E5C5.000012.02260@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You are just trying to get out of painting. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- I think there should be a new award for KR that flew in with the most work to be done on it before it is finished. Just think, a semi finished KR would give builders a real perspective of what will actually fly. Mark Jones (N886MJ) ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:08:45 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004501c55619$d39d4e00$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colin, you just had to tell the world that I am a large KR pilot. But then, those that have met me know that. Here are some real world specs. My KR2S: 771 lbs empty weight Fuel capacity 24 gallons: 144 lbs Pilot 6'00": 230 lbs Total: 1145 lbs. I have flown my KR with full tanks which made this weight of 1145 lbs. Take off roll is longer at full tanks but she will lift off at 65-70 and at 90 mph climb out she will give me 1100 feet per minute. This is with a Corvair engine with a carb that is rated for a 85 hp engine. I am willing to bet when I install my new carb in the next couple of weeks, The performance numbers will even get better. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:54 AM Subject: KR> Cockpit size > I have a KR2 built to plans, I am 5'5" tall, and 195 and I had to move > the seat forward 5 inches to comfortably reach the rudder pedals, and see over the nose at the same time. The KR2S has even more room having added an additional bay forward and aft of the spar. Larry Flesner is not a small man, neither is Mark Jones, and they are having a blast with their KRs also. > > You build it, so build it to accommodate you! It is yours.... > > Corvair engine torn down, waiting on parts from Clark's Corvair.... > > Colin > Sanford, FL > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:11:40 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004d01c5561a$395d9560$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My whole plane is covered in filler right now and has to be sanded down for primer. I would just about pay someone to come and sand it for me. I was intending to sand most of it last night but got a call at work five minutes before I was leaving to the airport that I had a sick son with a double ear infection. Family first, KR second. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:00 AM Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? > You are just trying to get out of painting. > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a > time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > -------Original Message------- > > I think there should be a new award for KR that flew in with the most > work to be done on it before it is finished. Just think, a semi > finished KR would > give builders a real perspective of what will actually fly. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:54:07 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> KR web page To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA7C@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wow, http://www.krnet.org/ is down. I do not think I have ever seen this happen before. Mark Jones ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 05:52:13 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003701c55628$4233d1a0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was just wondering! What is the difference on cockpit space and cg between a 6' 230 lb person and a 5'6" 230 lb person? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:08 AM Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size > Colin, you just had to tell the world that I am a large KR pilot. But then, > those that have met me know that. Here are some real world specs. My > KR2S: 771 lbs empty weight Fuel capacity 24 gallons: 144 lbs > Pilot 6'00": 230 lbs > Total: 1145 lbs. > I have flown my KR with full tanks which made this weight of 1145 lbs. Take > off roll is longer at full tanks but she will lift off at 65-70 and at > 90 mph climb out she will give me 1100 feet per minute. This is with a Corvair > engine with a carb that is rated for a 85 hp engine. I am willing to > bet when I install my new carb in the next couple of weeks, The > performance numbers will even get better. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:54 AM > Subject: KR> Cockpit size > > > > I have a KR2 built to plans, I am 5'5" tall, and 195 and I had to > > move the > seat forward 5 inches to comfortably reach the rudder pedals, and see > over the nose at the same time. The KR2S has even more room having > added an additional bay forward and aft of the spar. Larry Flesner is > not a small man, neither is Mark Jones, and they are having a blast > with their KRs also. > > > > You build it, so build it to accommodate you! It is yours.... > > > > Corvair engine torn down, waiting on parts from Clark's Corvair.... > > > > Colin > > Sanford, FL > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:02:42 -0500 From: "Bill Page" Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c55629$bc467870$86d594d0@youryk5cbmeeo8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, Good luck with your sanding. My KR is complete with the filling and sanding, it has been primed, sanded, painted, clear coated, sanded again for the graphics and hopefully the graphics will be complete in about two weeks. Then the inspection and the first flight. My theme will be a KR wrapped in the American flag in 3 diminsion from cowling to the empinage with flames just on cowling and a small portion of the wing. It will be tastefully done but not overdone as most planes with this theme is. The flag will have the appearanace of waveing in 3D, a small WWII nose art of the Stature of Liberty using airbrush technique will be on the right side of the fuselage just behind the canopy. The tail numbers will be 22 carat gold leaf with shadows. A volunteer model will be used for the face of Miss Liberty. Hopefully the 40 hours will be flown off by Mt. Vernon time so that I can fly it to the KR Gathering. My KR may not be the best around, but I will be a proud owner. Have fun sanding. Bill Page bpage@netdoor.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? > My whole plane is covered in filler right now and has to be sanded > down for > primer. I would just about pay someone to come and sand it for me. I > was intending to sand most of it last night but got a call at work > five minutes > before I was leaving to the airport that I had a sick son with a > double ear > infection. Family first, KR second. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? > > > > You are just trying to get out of painting. > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is > > a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > > > I think there should be a new award for KR that flew in with the > > most work > > to be done on it before it is finished. Just think, a semi finished > > KR > would > > give builders a real perspective of what will actually fly. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:14:18 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Cockpit size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA7E@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In the exact same plane, CG should not move much. Cockpit space width wise would decrease with the shorter heavier pilot. Another thing to consider is, in the exact plane, a shorter pilot could not reach the rudder pedals as easily as the taller pilot. Mark Jones -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:52 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size I was just wondering! What is the difference on cockpit space and cg between a 6' 230 lb person and a 5'6" 230 lb person? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:08 AM Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size > Colin, you just had to tell the world that I am a large KR pilot. But then, > those that have met me know that. Here are some real world specs. My > KR2S: 771 lbs empty weight Fuel capacity 24 gallons: 144 lbs > Pilot 6'00": 230 lbs > Total: 1145 lbs. > I have flown my KR with full tanks which made this weight of 1145 lbs. Take > off roll is longer at full tanks but she will lift off at 65-70 and at > 90 mph climb out she will give me 1100 feet per minute. This is with a Corvair > engine with a carb that is rated for a 85 hp engine. I am willing to > bet when I install my new carb in the next couple of weeks, The > performance numbers will even get better. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:54 AM > Subject: KR> Cockpit size > > > > I have a KR2 built to plans, I am 5'5" tall, and 195 and I had to > > move the > seat forward 5 inches to comfortably reach the rudder pedals, and see > over the nose at the same time. The KR2S has even more room having > added an additional bay forward and aft of the spar. Larry Flesner is > not a small man, neither is Mark Jones, and they are having a blast > with their KRs also. > > > > You build it, so build it to accommodate you! It is yours.... > > > > Corvair engine torn down, waiting on parts from Clark's Corvair.... > > > > Colin > > Sanford, FL > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:18:52 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA80@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sweet !!! That paint job must cost just about as much as the entire KR. Mark Jones -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Bill Page Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:03 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? Mark, Good luck with your sanding. My KR is complete with the filling and sanding, it has been primed, sanded, painted, clear coated, sanded again for the graphics and hopefully the graphics will be complete in about two weeks. Then the inspection and the first flight. My theme will be a KR wrapped in the American flag in 3 diminsion from cowling to the empinage with flames just on cowling and a small portion of the wing. It will be tastefully done but not overdone as most planes with this theme is. The flag will have the appearanace of waveing in 3D, a small WWII nose art of the Stature of Liberty using airbrush technique will be on the right side of the fuselage just behind the canopy. The tail numbers will be 22 carat gold leaf with shadows. A volunteer model will be used for the face of Miss Liberty. Hopefully the 40 hours will be flown off by Mt. Vernon time so that I can fly it to the KR Gathering. My KR may not be the best around, but I will be a proud owner. Have fun sanding. Bill Page bpage@netdoor.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? > My whole plane is covered in filler right now and has to be sanded > down for > primer. I would just about pay someone to come and sand it for me. I > was intending to sand most of it last night but got a call at work > five minutes > before I was leaving to the airport that I had a sick son with a > double ear > infection. Family first, KR second. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: KR> HOW MANY DAYS ??? > > > > You are just trying to get out of painting. > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is > > a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > > > I think there should be a new award for KR that flew in with the > > most work > > to be done on it before it is finished. Just think, a semi finished > > KR > would > > give builders a real perspective of what will actually fly. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 06:17:55 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004501c5562b$d892a9c0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Mark. With the weight distribution (larger mid-section) and shorter legs would the pilot be able to fly the KR safely? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: RE: KR> Cockpit size > In the exact same plane, CG should not move much. Cockpit space width > wise would decrease with the shorter heavier pilot. Another thing to consider is, in the exact plane, a shorter pilot could not reach the rudder pedals as easily as the taller pilot. > Mark Jones > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of joe > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:52 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size > > > I was just wondering! What is the difference on cockpit space and cg between > a 6' 230 lb person and a 5'6" 230 lb person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:08 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size > > > > Colin, you just had to tell the world that I am a large KR pilot. > > But > then, > > those that have met me know that. Here are some real world specs. My > > KR2S: 771 lbs empty weight Fuel capacity 24 gallons: 144 lbs > > Pilot 6'00": 230 lbs > > Total: 1145 lbs. > > I have flown my KR with full tanks which made this weight of 1145 lbs. > Take > > off roll is longer at full tanks but she will lift off at 65-70 and > > at 90 > > mph climb out she will give me 1100 feet per minute. This is with a > Corvair > > engine with a carb that is rated for a 85 hp engine. I am willing to > > bet when I install my new carb in the next couple of weeks, The > > performance numbers will even get better. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:54 AM > > Subject: KR> Cockpit size > > > > > > > I have a KR2 built to plans, I am 5'5" tall, and 195 and I had to > > > move > the > > seat forward 5 inches to comfortably reach the rudder pedals, and > > see over > > the nose at the same time. The KR2S has even more room having added > > an additional bay forward and aft of the spar. Larry Flesner is not > > a small man, neither is Mark Jones, and they are having a blast with > > their KRs > also. > > > > > > You build it, so build it to accommodate you! It is yours.... > > > > > > Corvair engine torn down, waiting on parts from Clark's > > > Corvair.... > > > > > > Colin > > > Sanford, FL > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:18:55 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> KR web page To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c5562b$fbd0e140$a624c944@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark, I just tried and it's back up with the first KR-2S (blue & white) being one of the best looking KRs I have seen. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: KR> KR web page > Wow, http://www.krnet.org/ is down. I do not think I have ever seen > this > happen before. > > Mark Jones > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:32:40 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Cockpit size To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA81@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Absolutely...Simply install the rudder pedals to meet your feet. I actually moved my firewall 2" forward than what the plans call for because I needed more leg room and also widened my cockpit by three inches. That is the beauty of the KR, you can custom build it to fit you. Mark Jones -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of joe Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:18 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size Thanks Mark. With the weight distribution (larger mid-section) and shorter legs would the pilot be able to fly the KR safely? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: RE: KR> Cockpit size > In the exact same plane, CG should not move much. Cockpit space width > wise would decrease with the shorter heavier pilot. Another thing to consider is, in the exact plane, a shorter pilot could not reach the rudder pedals as easily as the taller pilot. > Mark Jones > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of joe > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:52 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size > > > I was just wondering! What is the difference on cockpit space and cg between > a 6' 230 lb person and a 5'6" 230 lb person? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:08 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Cockpit size > > > > Colin, you just had to tell the world that I am a large KR pilot. > > But > then, > > those that have met me know that. Here are some real world specs. My > > KR2S: 771 lbs empty weight Fuel capacity 24 gallons: 144 lbs > > Pilot 6'00": 230 lbs > > Total: 1145 lbs. > > I have flown my KR with full tanks which made this weight of 1145 lbs. > Take > > off roll is longer at full tanks but she will lift off at 65-70 and > > at 90 > > mph climb out she will give me 1100 feet per minute. This is with a > Corvair > > engine with a carb that is rated for a 85 hp engine. I am willing to > > bet when I install my new carb in the next couple of weeks, The > > performance numbers will even get better. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:54 AM > > Subject: KR> Cockpit size > > > > > > > I have a KR2 built to plans, I am 5'5" tall, and 195 and I had to > > > move > the > > seat forward 5 inches to comfortably reach the rudder pedals, and > > see over > > the nose at the same time. The KR2S has even more room having added > > an additional bay forward and aft of the spar. Larry Flesner is not > > a small man, neither is Mark Jones, and they are having a blast with > > their KRs > also. > > > > > > You build it, so build it to accommodate you! It is yours.... > > > > > > Corvair engine torn down, waiting on parts from Clark's > > > Corvair.... > > > > > > Colin > > > Sanford, FL > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:12:55 -0500 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> final weight and balance To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mark L. wrote- >I did my "final" weight and balance Monday. Total empty weight is 732 >pounds So... your airplane came in 39 lbs. lighter than Mark Jones'. At about 8.554 lbs. per gallon of sweat, that's only an additional 4.56 gallons of sweat that you put into lightening N56ML over and above Jones' effort. But if we could quantify all of the neuron-level effort-? ;o) Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 186 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================