From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 199 Date: 5/17/2005 8:10:01 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: taxi testing? (Steve Glover) 2. R?f. : KR> taxi testing? (Serge VIDAL) 3. KR's and Wives (rparker) 4. Taxi testing (Colin & Bev Rainey) 5. Re: KR's and Wives (Orma) 6. Re: taxi testing? (Orma) 7. Taxi testing and first flight (Martindale Family) 8. Advice; Re: KR> taxi testing? (Ed Janssen) 9. Re: Taxi testing and first flight (Mark Langford) 10. take off (robert clark) 11. need PC help (Dene Collett (SA)) 12. Re: need PC help (Clint Matthews) 13. Homebuilt currency (Dan Heath) 14. ebay vw motor (Shawn and Laura) 15. Re: KR's and Wives (Barry Kruyssen) 16. Exhaust Pipes (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 17. Re: ebay KR 2 (Phillip Matheson) 18. Re: ebay 2nd KR2 on ebay (Phillip Matheson) 19. I need some help with my Corvair motor mount (Cowgirl2fly@aol.com) 20. Re: KR's and Wives (Mike Turner) 21. RE: Exhaust Pipes (Brian Kraut) 22. a better day of taxi testing (Mark Langford) 23. Re: a better day of taxi testing (JAMES C FERRIS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:21:28 -0700 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: KR> taxi testing? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Mark, I did the repeated high speed taxi tests full length on the runway until I was comfortable taking it to near flying speed and back to a stop. I did the same thing as far as getting light on the wheels a couple times. It doesn't take long to become almost second nature on the controls. You will find that your first landing is going to be much easier than you expect. Good luck...I am confident you will know when it is time. Regards, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need a little advice here. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:35:45 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> taxi testing? To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, When I bought ZS-WEC, my first duals were an absolute disater, and there was no way I could have landed that thing solo safely. So, I went to the tower, asked them to give me the runway not in use up to the crossing (there were two very long runways there, forming a cross). That gave me 3000' of playground, and I practiced for about 3 hours going up and down. The routine was: throttle forward, lift the tail, keep the aircraft straight for 3 seconds, throttle back, let the tail settle down , and brake before hitting the end of the runway. The first dual after that, I landed the bird quite OK. Considering your space-age KR should be less touchy than my antiquated one, there is little risk of losing the aircraft while practicing that routine. Certainly less risky than half a dozen balked landings heavily loaded on stress! The first flight will be stressful, and people handle stress very differently. So, I would recommend you practice on ground to build your handling skills, and more important, your confidence and familiarity. When you reach the point where you feel that the aircraft always does roughly what you want, well, wait no more... Then, again, it's your call. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Mark Langford" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-17 04:50 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-17 04:44 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> taxi testing? KRnetHeads, I've already made a lot of friends out at MDQ. Chris, the A&P that held the flashlight for me last night while we installed the wings, dropped by every half hour or so to see if I needed a hand, and a new guy came by and pretty much made a day of it, helping me remove the wings again so I could route the cables around the pullies at the roots. I'd forgotten to do that last night in all the excitement. They not only bought me a BBQ lunch, but "flew" to get it and insisted that I stay and keep rigging the controls so I could taxi test before quitting time. They bought lunch because I was the "entertainment" for the day. Everybody there loves the Corvair, based on sound alone, and nobody's actually seen it yet! There's a picture that my 10 year old daughter took at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/05051642m.jpg . I need a little advice here. I got the controls rigged and did about 10 runs down the runway today, and fortunately only almost lost it once. I think I had one wheel off the runway completely (it's "only" 100' wide). The last two runs I just gave it a good bit of throttle and got the tail up immediately, and then backed it down to slightly above idle to keep it up 3/4 of the way down. Towards the end I'd slow it down enough to let the tail drop, and at that point it got real interesting, but I maintained control. My Flight Advisor guy said he wouldn't do high speed tests at all...his theory being that it's way too dangerious to go through that transition period repeatedly, when I could be flying it for an hour between each of these flirts with disaster. But I definitely got better as the day went on. The thing taxis great. At one point the tailwheel quit working, so steering became a real problem. I parked it and took a look back in the fuselage and found the cable lying loose on the floor, with no evidence of there ever having been a nut on the connection, much less a cotter pin. The other side had no cotter pin either, so I remedied that and went back to the runway for more. At one point Chris and Mike appeared with scissors saying "4:19 PM, first flight...let's have that T-shirt". I don't know that I was flying, but I wouldn't be surprised. About two more days of this and I might start thinking "if I've survived this many runs, I could probably take off and land it". Anyway, what do y'all KR taildragger pilots think I should be doing to prepare myself for first flight? Is tail up all the way down the thing to do, or maybe up and down and up and down would be better... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 04:51:47 -0500 From: "rparker" Subject: KR> KR's and Wives To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050517095147.31669.qmail@server278.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I had to forward those comments to my wife and ask her the question "which one do you resemble?" Unfortunately I'm in basically in the same boat as Mark J. I wonder what the percentage of completed homebuilts is for single men is vs married men....... Rich Parker Peterborough, NH >I drove my wife's Audi to tow the plane, while she followed in my GTI. >Then we ran back home and each carried a wing back. She helped me get >the wings installed, and afterward gave me a big hug and said something >like "welcome to your dream"... >Mark, >You have a real jewel of a wife there. Many of us envy you. Tell >Jeannie we are proud that she supports you so. >Through my seven years >of building, my wife never supported me. As a matter of fact, there >were a couple of >times she threatened the plane with a chain saw. Now >that it is flying, she is starting to show more pride in it in >the >fact that we now own an airplane. Funny thing is that she told me I >should upgrade to a larger plane so we as >a family can go places. >Ha....I am going places in my KR. She can drive...... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 06:18:50 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Taxi testing To: Message-ID: <007001c55ac9$d21fc170$c7432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Incredible I can contribute once again to the "master" of KRs...LOL Seriously, Mark I would continue to taxi around until you feel as comfortable as driving your car. I did, and was so glad because there were no surprises when landing later. I just took a tour of the airport and began maneuvering into every spot I could see, practiced "parking" in imaginary spots, going around non-existent obstacles until I had the confidence to get around other aircraft. If you get into a bind, shut it down and push it out into the open again and start over. Something bites you, keep going back until you master it. If you don't that will be the one item that will someday bite you while transitioning some other time. Just my opinion, but anyone who recommends to avoid a portion of the flight regime, or not practice it, either needs to quit calling themselves a pilot, or shut up and quit giving their cowardly advice. The ONLY way to control risk in flying is to become competent in ALL areas, not just in some. It is much easier and safer to handle a ground loop at half speed then to face the same situation at landing speed with the end of the runway coming up much faster, AND you are tired and fatigued from your first nerve racking flight! Get it tail up and hold it steady and straight, then gradually let it sink with no power. See if you can "hop" it into ground effect just a foot or two off the runway very early on the runway, then let it sink onto the mains and hold it straight as before. This gets you practicing the most important aspects of mastering a tailwheel landing, with the maximum repetition, and lowest risk. By doing that you will effectively practice landing the airplane over and over without having to fly the pattern for 5 minutes to get 10 seconds of practice. There is no managing of the approach, pressure of speeds, watching other traffic, staying near the airport, not overshooting final etc.... Keep it close to the ground until you are comfortable. The rest comes soon enough. I have used this many times in teaching others how to land and how to land better, including other CFIs. One pilot that I showed these things to had been flying for over 15 years and had never been taught this stuff. Landing is not luck, it is practiced skill. As far as steering, here is the secret for all you tailwheel wanna bes and wanna be better: when beginning a turn or correction start by applying pressure to that rudder, NOT pushing the pedal, or if the tailwheel is down, pressure to that brake. The moment that the plane begins to react in the desired direction, IMMEDIATELY begin applying a small amount of counter pressure to the opposite brake or pedal to control the amount of turn and rate, much the same way we begin taking out turns from the steering wheel before completion of the turn. By practicing this regulation of the turns, one can get to the point of applying brakes while the tailwheel is still up, and doing things like figure 8's, and so forth for skill building. This skill prevents the ground loop by limiting the amount of reaction the plane gives and gets the pilot ahead of the plane's reaction instead of behind it. This skill necessary in order to have the proper reaction time when transitioning from a landing into taxi operations. Good flying Mark, and CONGRATS!!!!! You deserve it! Colin Rainey Sanford,FL ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:17:33 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> KR's and Wives To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002701c55ad2$067881c0$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If my wife had wanted a KR she could have built one. On the other hand she is kind to let me enjoy my toy and considers it a real option to bars and women. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:01:18 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> taxi testing? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002a01c55ad8$234298d0$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Mark, Congratulations. The YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa's are not far away. Your friends at MDQ are probably right that you did leave the ground. So far you have been given good advise. I will only relate a bit of my first flight experience. But first I want you to go back and invite your new friends to give the plane a once over. Make access for them to see inside and let them look. You by passed the final stage of the final check before first flight which is to have someone look behind you to keep you safe. I bet you are much to excited to even think clearly at this point. Your taxi tests sound much like mine. Each time I went down the runway, I would let the throttle stay out longer and longer. As you say, the tail would pop up in seconds and steering (rudder authority) is great with the tail up. Yes the transition is the time of greatest concern. In landing my plane, my best landings are Three point these occur when my approach speeds are real slow, with less then 60 MPH over the numbers. Reality for me is that I'm not in that good a form most days and I wheel land at a higher speed and consequently require transition from wheel to tailwheel. My best transitions occur when I allow the tail to stay up as long as it can, allowing the speed to bleed off while balancing the plane on the mains using forward stick pressure(Caution too much forward stick pressure or too much brake pressure will cause the plane to nose over). There is a speed at which the effectiveness of the stabilizer is not stuffiest to hold the tail up and at that point the tail just falls. I then pull aft stick to put as much pressure on the tail wheel as the airflow over the elevator will generate. On my first flight, I had performed one tail up and decided to do another and then yet a third tail up. All this time the throttle was wide open. On that last time, as I lowered the tail, the plane just jumped into the sky, no skipping of the mains, not one indication that in a heart beat I would be 5 feet in the air. I had plenty of runway left, but as someone else said why crash before you even fly. Away I went, with a death grip on the stick. I was so rigid that the plane was porposing. I finally let go of the stick and let the plane fly. My landing could have been uneventful except that my idle was too high and the plane would not stop flying and I had to cut the engine to get it to settle and land. Mark with all that you have said over the months, I'm sure you can fly the plane and landing it using one of the techniques you know will do just fine. Just remember to make sure each time you go out that you and the plane are ready to fly. Hell, it's almost 8 AM by now you probably have flown again. Orma L. Robbins Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:24:23 +1000 From: "Martindale Family" Subject: KR> Taxi testing and first flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003b01c55adb$5bb73c40$0a571fd3@athlon2400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Mark I can't really add much to what the others are saying other than to keep all your throttle changes really gentle and don't lift the tail too early. Be sure to have a safety plan. Know exactly where you will go if the engine stops beforehand in initial climb. Practice it. Wait for a nice serene morning when all's well with the world and avoid crowds...just a couple of good well briefed friends....one last check under the cowl then slip the surly bonds when you're ready. Mustard, mud, shit and blood, grit your teeth and stay there. John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjanet@optusnet.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:44:37 -0500 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Advice; Re: KR> taxi testing? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001301c55ade$352f9ec0$5500a8c0@dad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I taxied my KR-1 for 9 + hours. Got everyone bored and yawning watching me; but actually it was fun. I did all my fast taxiing in almost dead calm conditions. After the first couple of hours, I did pretty much fast taxiing with the tail up for the rest of the hours. I always added power very slowly and also reduced power very slowly to let the tail wheel down. As others are saying, getting off the power too quickly can get you in trouble. Although I often got exhausted with the concentration, I got so that I could fast taxi ( except for the first and last couple hundred feet) the entire length of our 100 X 5600 ft runway. Anyway, when I did decide I was ready, I simply did another fast taxi - got the tail up, and when everything felt nice and stable in control, I added a tad more power, and off we went, then slowly added full power. No porpoising, just a nice smooth climbout. My legs were twitching uncontrollably from being nervous, but I managed to get around the pattern and set it down with the best landing I every made in it. I also found that you really want to get that tail planted on the ground (full aft stick) fairly quickly after it's done flying in crosswind conditions or you'll find yourself trying to avoid runway lights quicker than you can imagine. I loved the aileron response in the KR-1 - considerably quicker than in the KR-2, I've been told by those who have flown both planes - and the rudder pedals became just a convenient place to rest my feet. I very rarely used the rudder pedals except for slipping and crosswind landings. Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com > I need a little advice here. > Thanks, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:28 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Taxi testing and first flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007c01c55ae8$15b40900$2802a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for all the good advice. Much of it goes back to good old-fashioned tailwheel training, but this bird is a little different from what I'm used to! And I just talked to Troy, so I've been reminded of what's important...stuff like not chopping the throttle when I want the tail to come down....just ease it out slowly to keep it from spinning around. I'll work on the finer points today... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: robert clark Subject: KR> take off To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050517142900.4163.qmail@web51403.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What can I say about learning to fly? The first thing I learned was to get rid of my shoes !!! You can't feel the rudder peddels while wearing shoes. On take off, this is what works for me. I put in full power to get rolling. You must zoom through the area where it's hard to control and get to 30 M.P.H, That's where I lift the tail to get great control. I continue to 60 M.P.H., and that's were we lift off. Hold steady until 80 M.P.H., then you're ready to climb. Kr2flyer Bob Clark Coral Springs,FL __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:37:19 +0200 From: "Dene Collett (SA)" Subject: KR> need PC help To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000001c55b21$551958a0$7e9eef9b@dene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi guys Can anyone please help me with a problem that I have with my PC (Off line). I know this is not kr related but I am desperate and request all replies to be off list. All of a sudden my PC comes up with the message that it can not locate file " cmicnfg.cpi" when booting up. If I accept this by clicking OK, the PC works normally. When it comes time to shut the PC down it freezes as soon as you select "shut down" I am running windows 98SE. Just to make this legal, I received a Corvair motor on loan this past week end so that I can give it a good look through to get familiar with it and to measure it up to construct a temporary mount. It still has all its tin, carbs, fan, etc on it and was really surprised at its size compared to a VW. Regards Dene Collett South Africa KR2SRT builder mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net www.whisperaircraft.co.za ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Clint Matthews Subject: Re: KR> need PC help To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050517213830.32288.qmail@web50008.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Upgrade to Windows XP "Dene Collett (SA)" wrote:Hi guys Can anyone please help me with a problem that I have with my PC (Off line). I know this is not kr related but I am desperate and request all replies to be off list. All of a sudden my PC comes up with the message that it can not locate file " cmicnfg.cpi" when booting up. If I accept this by clicking OK, the PC works normally. When it comes time to shut the PC down it freezes as soon as you select "shut down" I am running windows 98SE. Just to make this legal, I received a Corvair motor on loan this past week end so that I can give it a good look through to get familiar with it and to measure it up to construct a temporary mount. It still has all its tin, carbs, fan, etc on it and was really surprised at its size compared to a VW. Regards Dene Collett South Africa KR2SRT builder mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net www.whisperaircraft.co.za _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:47:38 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Homebuilt currency To: Message-ID: <428A667A.000005.03344@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Regarding the information that was posted last week. I just received this today. HOMEBUILT PILOTS' CURRENCY CLARIFICATION A story in Monday's NewsWire unintentionally threw a scare into thousands of homebuilt pilots who quite legally fly their aircraft and will continue to do so without the prying eyes of the FAA determining whether they are capable. As the story noted, the FAA wants to make sure that those flying passengers in their homebuilts are properly rated for the aircraft they are flying. What we didn't say is that since most homebuilts are single-engine land planes and that's the certificate most pilots have, there's no action required for the vast majority of pilots. However, some folks who have built water-capable or multi-engine planes don't carry those endorsements. The rule is intended to ensure those pilots are proficient and current in the particular aircraft they fly before they can take passengers. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/399-full.html#189776 So, not to worry. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:14:58 -0400 From: Shawn and Laura Subject: KR> ebay vw motor To: KRnet Message-ID: <428A7AF2.7080709@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed There is a Great Plains 1835cc long block listed on ebay. (#4549514469) Shawn Jezegou Lindsay, Ontario ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:44:10 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> KR's and Wives To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01fa01c55b3a$54b2c540$f400a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, I'm pretty luck as my wife, Gail, has encouraged my flying hobby. What ever else I'm doing I always thing that the money I'm spending would be better spent on flying. (that beer down the pub is more expensive than a litre of AVGAS, and I'm not that much of a beer drinker..............anymore) Today is a historic occassion, my wife had here first flight in OUR kr2, and loved it. As we drove to the strip there was fog covering the strip and the taxi ways, all surrounding areas were clear. So DI the KR2 and strap in, taxi to the end of the strip and then wait for visibility to improve. Finally we are rolling though light fog and climb to 2000 ft AGL and do a little 1/2 hour tour of the area around home. I explain to Gail that we may side slip on final to reduce height, no problems, nice perfect glide to the thresh hold, as we settle into ground effect I feel the grass hitting the mains and comment this to her, then a nice perfect 3 pointer, taxi in an put it away. (In to work before 0800) Gail really enjoyed the flight with only one complaint, her bum got numb. I have the standard sling seats and will have to improve on them to make her more comfortable. All in all a great flight with the promise of more to come, Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:22:25 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Exhaust Pipes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004801c55b3f$ac7c9440$aa489445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have an 1835 VW engine mounted on the firewall. The exhaust pipes are touching the bottom of the fuselage. I know that is not acceptable. How much clearance do I need? Ray Goree raybeth123@sbcglobal.net Ray Goree 817-795-4779 ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:32:10 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> ebay KR 2 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012201c55b49$6969d190$39b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Item number: 4550775658 KR2 for sale on Ebay Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:39:17 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> ebay 2nd KR2 on ebay To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012a01c55b4a$681f0ca0$39b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Item number: 4550473412 Another KR2 on Ebay Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:16:31 EDT From: Cowgirl2fly@aol.com Subject: KR> I need some help with my Corvair motor mount To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <36.72fe7573.2fbbff7f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Greetings everyone I have been constructing my motor mount I have the tray all done However I'm having a difficult time figuring out the lenght of the tubes that attach to the tray and firewall. In the manual it appears the tubes from the top of the fire wall to the back of the tray are longer then the ones that run from the bottom of the fire wall to the back of the tray. Can anyone help me with the lenghts of these tubes Thank you for you assistance Patty Gettysburg PA ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:49:50 -0500 From: "Mike Turner" Subject: Re: KR> KR's and Wives To: "rparker" , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark sounds like she is really getting behind you on this building thing. Now make her happy and build a kr-4 Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri Subject: KR> KR's and Wives . Funny thing is that she told me I should upgrade to a larger plane so we as >a family can go places. Ha Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:52:22 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Exhaust Pipes To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Mine came out the bottom at about a 45 degree angle and they were about a half inch from the front bottom corner where the firewall meets the bottom of the fusalage. Look at http://www.engalt.com/engine.htm at the third picture down. I never had any problems with it. Obviously, the further the better, but you do get a lot of exit air flow around the exhaust that keeps the heat away. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of raybeth123@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:22 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Exhaust Pipes I have an 1835 VW engine mounted on the firewall. The exhaust pipes are touching the bottom of the fuselage. I know that is not acceptable. How much clearance do I need? Ray Goree raybeth123@sbcglobal.net Ray Goree 817-795-4779 _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:01:06 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> a better day of taxi testing To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007001c55b55$dd465910$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" NetHeads, Today was a good day. The weather's been great, with slight wind right down the runway. Acting on the advice that several KRnetHeads gave me (both public and private), I started out by running up to full throttle, lifting the tail and reducing throttle to keep from gaining too much speed but still tracking the centerline, and slowly reducing throttle back to idle. Most of the time I was doing 50-60 mph when I backed off, and that only took a few seconds. I could have flown it from there every time, by simply pulling back a tad. But from there, I'd just hold the tail up until it dropped, which was about 35 mph. I got to the point that I could do all of this in 2000 feet, and then turn around and taxi back and do it again. Before the day was over, I could pretty much track the centerline. But what else would you expect after FORTY runs in one day? After the traffic died down, I started going both ways, which was really efficient use of time. I watched a killer sunset while waiting for a King Air to land. Taxiing that plane is almost second nature now, quite comfortable, a whole lot different from yesterday morning. I really feel like I'm ready to fly it (and I sure was tempted), although landing may be a different matter. Really though, after going ahead and taking off, I should only have to do several runs down the runway to get a good feel for it, maybe 20 or 30 feet up, and then eventually just go ahead with it. I'll do all of the usual "feeling out" at altitude first though. I feel like I can handle just about any extreme (as long as the wind is pretty calm). If nothing else, I learned to taxi with the canopy open for better cooling and slightly better visibility, and to latch the canopy with one hand while not looking. See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/05051729m.jpg . I also tried the flaps, and they do make a difference, even on the ground ( http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/05051722m.jpg ). Basically all systems are go, but I'm going to get another day's worth in before I think about flying it. Thanks for all the good advice. I think I'm on my way now. Tomorrow will be an even better day... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:07:29 -0400 From: JAMES C FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> a better day of taxi testing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050517.230730.1472.0.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I feel good about you getting all the pratice, it will pay off in the long run. jim On Tue, 17 May 2005 22:01:06 -0500 "Mark Langford" writes: > NetHeads, > > Today was a good day. The weather's been great, with slight wind > right down the runway. Acting on the advice that several KRnetHeads > gave me (both public and private), I started out by running up to > full throttle, lifting the tail and reducing throttle to keep from > gaining too much speed but still tracking the centerline, and slowly > reducing throttle back to idle. Most of the time I was doing 50-60 > mph when I backed off, and that only took a few seconds. I could > have flown it from there every time, by simply pulling back a tad. > But from there, I'd just hold the tail up until it dropped, which > was about 35 mph. I got to the point that I could do all of this in > 2000 feet, and then turn around and taxi back and do it again. > Before the day was over, I could pretty much track the centerline. > But what else would you expect after FORTY runs in one day? After > the traffic died down, I started going both ways, which was really > efficient use of time. I watched a killer sunset while waiting for > a King Air to land. > > Taxiing that plane is almost second nature now, quite comfortable, a > whole lot different from yesterday morning. I really feel like I'm > ready to fly it (and I sure was tempted), although landing may be a > different matter. Really though, after going ahead and taking off, > I should only have to do several runs down the runway to get a good > feel for it, maybe 20 or 30 feet up, and then eventually just go > ahead with it. I'll do all of the usual "feeling out" at altitude > first though. I feel like I can handle just about any extreme (as > long as the wind is pretty calm). > > If nothing else, I learned to taxi with the canopy open for better > cooling and slightly better visibility, and to latch the canopy with > one hand while not looking. See > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/05051729m.jpg . > I also tried the flaps, and they do make a difference, even on the > ground ( http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/05051722m.jpg ). > > Basically all systems are go, but I'm going to get another day's > worth in before I think about flying it. Thanks for all the good > advice. I think I'm on my way now. Tomorrow will be an even better > day... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 199 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================