From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 227 Date: 6/8/2005 9:00:19 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. test (phillip matheson) 2. Re: Aircraft Stripper (cartera) 3. Re: test (Phil Spurr) 4. Re: First flight (Tlongcrier@aol.com) 5. ELT antenna (Oscar Zuniga) 6. RE: ELT antenna (Al Hawkins) 7. Re: First flight (Ryan) 8. Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed (Ron Freiberger) 9. Re: Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed (Jim Sellars) 10. New Photo (Mark Jones) 11. R?f. : KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed (Serge VIDAL) 12. RE: Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed (Brian Kraut) 13. Re: Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed (Mark Langford) 14. Re: New Photo (patrusso) 15. RE: New Photo (Mark Jones) 16. Re: ELT antenna (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 17. Re: ELT antenna (Joseph H. Horton) 18. ELT antenna (Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO) 19. Foam (jodel@alphalink.com.au) 20. Re: Foam (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:21:53 +1000 From: "phillip matheson" Subject: KR> test To: "KR Builder & Pilots" Message-ID: <004901c56be9$fc053980$78a7443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" test. Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 00:15:00 -0600 From: cartera Subject: Re: KR> Aircraft Stripper To: Ron Eason , KRnet Message-ID: <42A68CE4.70201@spots.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hello Ron and Gang, Give a pad sander a try, I did very little hand sanding on my KR and after 20 years it's still look real good. Whatever you do, do not use any chemicals for stripping, aluminum yes, fiberglass NO! Always use a dust mask. Happy Flying! Adrian Ron Eason wrote: >I would try compressed air blasting with baking soda their is some auto >here >in the KC area that do it that way we/of damage to the fiberglass. >I seen it done. > >KRron >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "KRnet" >Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:05 PM >Subject: KR> Aircraft Stripper > > > > >>Is it safe to use aircraft stripper on a KR to remove old paint or >>will it >>damage the T-88 or make the epoxy break loose from the wood? It would >>really save me some time if I could use it. >> >>Steve Henderson >>St. Louis, MO >>KR1 >>sph12@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________ >>Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >>please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> >> >> > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > -- Adrian VE6AFY Mailto:cartera@spots.ab.ca http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 08:13:02 +0100 From: Phil Spurr Subject: Re: KR> test To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20050608081007.01eb4fd0@mail.btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Phil I've emailed you yesterday on both your new and old email addresses, it seems you can send but not receive... It's not going into an antispam folder is it ? Phil At 06:21 08/06/2005, you wrote: >test. >Phil Matheson >mathesonp@dodo.com.au >VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) >61 3 58833588 >Australia.( Down Under) >See My KR2 Building Web Page at: >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html > >See our VW Engines and Home built web page at >http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 05:02:13 EDT From: Tlongcrier@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> First flight To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Lee, I don't post often, but since your incident was much like one that I had, I will post in response......in hopes it might be useful to some. To cut through the chaff, I have nice KR 2 with a VW Type !V, 1835 cc engine, standard VW ignition, Zenith carb and Facet electric full pump......among many other things, of course. On my first flight, after the usual check outs, taxi tests, etc., I went thru my checklist, run up, fuel pump on, etc. pulled out on the runway, eased the throttle forward, tracked straight down the runway, lifted off effortlessly, climbed out to cross wind altitude, etc., etc. It was flying like a dream. My plan was to stay in the pattern and practice landings. We have no tower. I was using the 3000' , runway 36, wind was light and 360 degrees. I started climbing on out to downwind altitude, 800+ feet, throttling back, fuel pump off, etc., starting my downwind turn, etc. and the engine QUIT....."DAMN!!!!!!!." Well, I focused on flying the airplane, checked my fuel shut off valve, ignition switch, throttle,choke, hit the starter, turned on the fuel pump, etc Hit the starter again and she fired right up......"OH GOODY!!!!!!"........ So, I turn off the fuel pump, got everything set up again and continued downwind. If it had not restarted, I had planned to just make a dead stick landing right behind a Cherokee making touch and goes on runway 90. But it restarted, so I just continued downwind to runway 36....to where I started. Just as I got adjacent to the numbers, it quit AGAIN!!!!...."DAMN!!!!"... again. lol. I hit the starter again and it did not start. So, rather than spend the time trying the usual....again....I just focused on setting up for and making a dead stick landing. The prop had stopped at about a ten minutes after four o'clock position, I am proud to say that I judged my altitude, speed and distance pretty well. I turned final at about 90 mph (prop stopped, remember), slowed her up to 75 to 80 (1.3 times the stall speed of 60), picked my touchdown spot (at just beyond the numbers), controlled my speed with pitch......fortunately the decent rate stabalized at just about "perfect". "GOODY, GOODY !!!!!" This is a taildragger!!! Started my flare just before I reached the numbers, but guess I was just too timid about slowing her down just a little more. I touched down EXACTLY...lol....where I had planned but was just a little too fast......keeping my eyes outside now, not on the ASI....and the tail just a little too high. My mains touched down.....just about right.....but I bounced, of course. Had no power to smooth it out....or go around. The bounce was not TOO high, but it seemed to be, so I tried to put it back on the ground (reflex) with some forward stick. It bounced again. By then I had the stick in my gut, but it was too late and it nosed over, skidded to the side of the runway and clipped off about 2 inches of my prop. I think when I first bounced, if I had kept the stick back, it would have bounced another time or two, but would have settled down and not nosed over. I got out, lifted it by the stabilizer and walked it back to my hangar. There was no traffic on that runway.....fortunately. I had to wait at a taxi intersection while a commuter airline plane taxied out from the terminal. In the windows, I saw inquizing faces peering at me. Could have sworn I heard some kid shout out, "Mommy. Look. That man broke his itty bitty airplane." lol. Anyway.....back at the hangar started looking for the problem......beginning that day and several days thereafter. Everything was checking out as having been ok, but I'll just cut through it all and state what I think was the cause. Previously, I checked my gravity, as well a with pump, fuel flow...... gph and pressure at the carb..... many, many times. Why so many? Because I was getting inconsitent, varying numbers. When it got regular enough to suit me, I flew it. I was accustomed to taking off with the fuel pump on and turning it off upon reaching pattern altitude......and I did it this time. When the engine quit the first time.....and I went through all the gyrations......and it started back up, etc....It did not register at the time that it restarted after I turned the fuel pump back on. So, I turned it off again. And, the flow must not have been sufficient....again....and it quit again at about adjacent to the numbers. My fuel line exits the bottom of my header tank, thru the on/off valve, thru the Facet (electric) fuel pump, turns in a semi-circle, then thru the firewall into the gascalator and then to carb. That's too many angles and turns. My final conclusion is that I was not getting constant, sufficient, gravity flow thru that Facet pump. Fuel pump should stay on all the time as long as this condition exists. This is old hat to most. Fuel pumps.....particularly the Facet....has been thoroughly discussed on this board over the years and most are aware of this. However, to those that are not aware,.....and a reminder to those who are.... the moral to this story is, "Leave that pump on until you know EXACTLY how your system is going to perform." T ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:48:05 -0500 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> ELT antenna To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on an ELT inside a composite aircraft? Most ELTs have a wire whip or external antenna but a rubber duck would be more compact. If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell? There don't seem to be any on eBay. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:02:59 -0700 From: "Al Hawkins" Subject: RE: KR> ELT antenna To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c56c32$c7c79e80$6702a8c0@mycomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Oscar It would work but would have limited range, my ELT came with 2 antennas one a telescoping portable. I used my ELT antenna by making a star pattern for a ground plane, made using 1 inch wide copper strips. I put the Antenna on the floor about 2 feet back from the seat back. Al Hawkins KR2 C-GDPU Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+awh.hawkins=telus.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+awh.hawkins=telus.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: June 8, 2005 5:48 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> ELT antenna Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on an ELT inside a composite aircraft? Most ELTs have a wire whip or external antenna but a rubber duck would be more compact. If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell? There don't seem to be any on eBay. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net X-SM-SEEN-40BD0F1D: 08.06.05 06:25:47 X-SM-From: taildrags@hotmail.com+- X-SM-SPAMMARK: @WL X-SM-SPAMRATE: 0 _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:11:33 -0700 From: "Ryan" Subject: Re: KR> First flight To: Message-ID: <004801c56c33$fa09b800$8cdb4a42@san.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" T, Have you changed your fuel system since this first flight? Ryan ----- Re: KR> First flight a.. From: Tlongcrier b.. Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 02:05:48 To cut through the chaff, I have nice KR 2 with a VW Type !V, 1835 cc engine, standard VW ignition, Zenith carb and Facet electric full pump......among many other things, of course. On my first flight, after the usual check outs, taxi tests, etc., I went thru my checklist, run up, fuel pump on, etc. pulled out on the runway, eased the throttle forward, tracked straight down the runway, lifted off effortlessly, climbed out to cross wind altitude, etc., etc. It was flying like a dream. My fuel line exits the bottom of my header tank, thru the on/off valve, thru the Facet (electric) fuel pump, turns in a semi-circle, then thru the firewall into the gascalator and then to carb. That's too many angles and turns. My final conclusion is that I was not getting constant, sufficient, gravity flow thru that Facet pump. Fuel pump should stay on all the time as long as this condition exists. This is old hat to most. Fuel pumps.....particularly the Facet....has been thoroughly discussed on this board over the years and most are aware of this. However, to those that are not aware,.....and a reminder to those who are.... the moral to this story is, "Leave that pump on until you know EXACTLY how your system is going to perform." T ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:38:57 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed To: "KRNET" Message-ID: <001501c56c37$d11bac60$0202a8c0@Disorganized> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This has been covered before, but I'll do it one more time. Facet pumps have a check valve, and the "cracking" pressure is inconsistent. I have measured it as high as 20 inches of water. You must have a bypass check valve or a second fuel pump, such as engine driven, etcetera. There is a very good one in A/S, search for ANDAIR Check Valve. Built from aircraft grade Aluminum and anodized for corrosion protection this lightweight and compact unit is excellent. The check valve is ideal for tank vents and high pressure fuel pump bypass lines. Its extremely light weight internal shuttle operates with the slightest pressure yet the internal O-ring seals allow the unit to be used up to 50 PSI. Other qualities include break out pressure less than 1 PSI, great flow characteristics around shuttle, and bleed allows shuttle to weep off pressure in the event of a blocked line. Features AN-6 (3/8") fitting on bottom. Valve measures 5/16" dia. x 2.75" long. .Tlongcrier alludes to this variability is his email. Failure to ensure a good bypass is an accident in progress. An intermediate problem is unobserved lean mixture which eventually creates it's own set of problems. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha"at"earthlink.net (replace the "at" with @) ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:52:26 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003801c56c39$b02f4230$6401a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Fellows: I mentioned earlier here that I had a fuel injection system and had used the gasolator for the return overflow. Having corrected that I wonder if anyone can suggest a stopper for the top port on the gasolator. Someone suggested that the RV crowd have the gasolator supplied with this top port "stopped". Any ideas how or with what? Best regards Jim PS: Kevin Jarvis please email me off line, or phone 506-856-7977 -__________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:55:21 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> New Photo To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C421D@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is a new photo on my web page. Those of you who have not ever seen me can see just how ugly I really am. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:11:04 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I run a 2.4 liter VW, with gravity feed, Zenith carb and Facet pump. I could not get enough flow through the Facet, and I suffered the same unpredictability, so I tried various solutions. I first tried to increase the inner diameter of the fuel line. I then tried to buy a check valve from Aircraft Spruce. Can't remember the name, but it clearly was a very old part, manufactured way before I was born. The break out pressure was too high, so I gave it up. What I now plan to do is to run two feed lines in parallel. One will go through the Facet, and the other will be free flow, and they will join just before the carb. So, basically, what you describe, minus the check valve. I think it will work, and I see one advantage: when the Facet is on, it will build less pressure against the carb when the float bowl is full. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Ron Freiberger" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-06-08 16:38 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-06-08 16:40 Pour : "KRNET" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed This has been covered before, but I'll do it one more time. Facet pumps have a check valve, and the "cracking" pressure is inconsistent. I have measured it as high as 20 inches of water. You must have a bypass check valve or a second fuel pump, such as engine driven, etcetera. There is a very good one in A/S, search for ANDAIR Check Valve. Built from aircraft grade Aluminum and anodized for corrosion protection this lightweight and compact unit is excellent. The check valve is ideal for tank vents and high pressure fuel pump bypass lines. Its extremely light weight internal shuttle operates with the slightest pressure yet the internal O-ring seals allow the unit to be used up to 50 PSI. Other qualities include break out pressure less than 1 PSI, great flow characteristics around shuttle, and bleed allows shuttle to weep off pressure in the event of a blocked line. Features AN-6 (3/8") fitting on bottom. Valve measures 5/16" dia. x 2.75" long. .Tlongcrier alludes to this variability is his email. Failure to ensure a good bypass is an accident in progress. An intermediate problem is unobserved lean mixture which eventually creates it's own set of problems. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha"at"earthlink.net (replace the "at" with @) _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:25:59 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed To: "Jim Sellars" , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The top (primer connection) port on every gascolator I have seen was just a 1/8" NPT pipe thread. You can get brass plugs from nearly any hardware store or get the aluminum ones from Spruce or Wicks. When you buy the gascolator it normally already comes with a plug in that port. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Jim Sellars Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:52 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed Fellows: I mentioned earlier here that I had a fuel injection system and had used the gasolator for the return overflow. Having corrected that I wonder if anyone can suggest a stopper for the top port on the gasolator. Someone suggested that the RV crowd have the gasolator supplied with this top port "stopped". Any ideas how or with what? Best regards Jim PS: Kevin Jarvis please email me off line, or phone 506-856-7977 -__________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:49:24 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Facet Pumps and Gravity Feed To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <013001c56c41$a5724290$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Some Facet pumps have check valves, some don't, some are anti-siphon, some aren't. There is a nice breakdown at http://www.facet-purolator.com/solidstate.asp . Be sure you know what you're getting. I don't know if I've mentioned it on KRnet or not, but I built a bypass into my system to eliminate vapor lock. See the bottom of http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/fuel/ ... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:10:31 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> New Photo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c56c4c$fa446db0$eba672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Your right Mark, but the plane looks good!! Say, how much ballast did you use, where is it and how is it affixed to offset the weight of the engine. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: KR> New Photo > There is a new photo on my web page. Those of you who have not ever > seen > me can see just how ugly I really am. > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 12:39:38 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> New Photo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C421F@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat, There is no ballast in my plane. The CG fortunately worked out perfectly. I established a CR range of 8-16 inches aft of the leading edge of the inboard wing. The 14-16 inch area is an absolute no fly zone unless you are ready to ascend higher than the KR can take you. My CG (full fuel and pilot) worked out to be 10.2 inches aft of the leading edge. The CG only moves forward one inch when tanks are completely empty. I have 23.1 flight hours in this configuration and she is as stable as I could ever hope for. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of patrusso Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:11 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> New Photo Your right Mark, but the plane looks good!! Say, how much ballast did you use, where is it and how is it affixed to offset the weight of the engine. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: KR> New Photo > There is a new photo on my web page. Those of you who have not ever > seen > me can see just how ugly I really am. > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:39:49 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> ELT antenna To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050608.134144.2596.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very in efficient. Could be tuned but most are cut for the 2 M band and are too short, Virg On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 07:48:05 -0500 "Oscar Zuniga" writes: > Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on > an ELT > inside a composite aircraft? Most ELTs have a wire whip or external > antenna > but a rubber duck would be more compact. > > If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell? There > don't seem > to be any on eBay. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:57:27 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> ELT antenna To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050608.135728.2544.6.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I finished installing mine just the other day. I think i remember the book saying that a rubber ducky is unacceptable. I don't know why. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > Anybody know of a reason why a "rubber duck" antenna wouldn't work on > an ELT > inside a composite aircraft? Most ELTs have a wire whip or external > antenna > but a rubber duck would be more compact. > > If it would work, does anybody have one they want to sell? There > don't seem > to be any on eBay. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:15:29 -0500 From: Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO Subject: KR> ELT antenna To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <200506081815.j58IFZIK022857@phantom1.region4.ang.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain Here is a site with a kit for making up to 6 antenna's for 29.00 http://www.rst-engr.com/rst/catalog/airplane_antenna.html Eric Pitts Terre Haute IN KR2S http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:39:00 +1000 From: jodel@alphalink.com.au Subject: KR> Foam To: KRnet , "KRnet" Message-ID: <20050609022946.M66475@alphalink.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All Is there a specific gravity for the foam that is used on the KR and is the foam part of the structural strength. Albert Cassar. ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:05:26 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002001c56ca0$1cc6b980$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Albert Cassar wrote: >Is there a specific gravity for the foam that is used on the KR and is >the foam part of the structural strength. 2 lbs/cubic foot is the density. The foam is not really structural (slightly, in compression, I guess you could say), it's really there to act as a form for the fiberglass. But in the case of a "sandwich", you could say it's structural. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 227 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================