From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 246 Date: 6/23/2005 8:08:21 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. new pics (Ron Smith) 2. Re: Stang (Scott) 3. Re: new pics (Robert L. Stone) 4. Re: Detonation as crank failure cause? (Martindale Family) 5. Need Transponder Mode C (danrh@alltel.net) 6. KR2 or 2S project (leebro649@netzero.com) 7. Re: Re:wing attach (bgdfix@vvm.com) 8. Re: new pics (Peter Drake) 9. Re: Re:wing attach (Mark Langford) 10. R?f. : Re: KR> Re:wing attach (Serge VIDAL) 11. Having a washer under the head (Ron Freiberger) 12. Re: new pics (Ron Smith) 13. Re: new pics (Ron Smith) 14. Re: inspection (Joseph H Horton) 15. Re: Need Transponder Mode C (Clint Matthews) 16. Need Altitude Recorder (Mike Turner) 17. Re: Need Altitude Recorder (Mark Langford) 18. motivation (larry flesner) 19. RE: motivation (Joachim Saupe) 20. RE: Stang (Brian Kraut) 21. RE: Stang (Joachim Saupe) 22. RE: Need Transponder Mode C (Brian Kraut) 23. Re: Need Transponder Mode C (Orma) 24. RE: Need Transponder Mode C (Brian Kraut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:13:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> new pics To: krnet@mylist.net, ROGER , Sandy , sandy42 Message-ID: <20050623061304.19444.qmail@web81705.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Knetters, I have some new pics for you http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php Regards, Ron Smith, Cypress Ca, U.S. Kr2s boat stage ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:57:34 -0400 From: Scott Subject: Re: KR> Stang To: KRnet Message-ID: <42BAA3AE.6040209@ctc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hmmm.... Sounds like someone may or may not have his airworthiness certificate yet. Fly (or not) safely! Scott Stanton Raleigh NC Brian Kraut wrote: >I can neither confirm nor deny the rumor that a Midget Mustang may or >may not have gotten excessively light on the mains for a few seconds >during two high speed taxii tests today. A YeeeeHaaa may or may not >have been involved. > >Brian Kraut >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >www.engalt.com > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:06:37 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> new pics To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c577ec$01e1f560$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ron, It's been a good many years since I built so I was surprised to see foam being used on the fuselage. When I built my KR-2 from 1976 to 1978 the fuselage was just spruce and plywood skin. It looks like from the pictures you are using foam and then glassing over it? This is the way the plans called for building the tail feathers, upper fudelage and wings but not the bottom fuselage. Is this called for in the "S" plans or just your own design? Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tex rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Smith" To: ; "ROGER" ; "Sandy" ; "sandy42" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: KR> new pics > Hello Knetters, > > I have some new pics for you > > http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php > > Regards, > Ron Smith, > Cypress Ca, U.S. > > Kr2s boat stage > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:10:00 +1000 From: "Martindale Family" Subject: Re: KR> Detonation as crank failure cause? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00ad01c577ec$7af9b6e0$e7e7eddc@martindale> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nearest the balancer ie, at the back of the engine and not near the prop. John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit Toormina NSW 2452 Australia ph: 61 2 66 584767 email: johnjanet@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Friesen" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:03 AM Subject: Re: KR> Detonation as crank failure cause? > Where is the thrust bearing in a Corvair engine? Al > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Scott" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:54 AM > Subject: Re: KR> Detonation as crank failure cause? > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 7:23:30 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Need Transponder Mode C To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050623122330.VBIT13979.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am looking for a compact transponder with mode C, either used or new. Please advise of your favorite place to get such items. Thanks, Dan Heath from work ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:57:36 GMT From: "leebro649@netzero.com" Subject: KR> KR2 or 2S project To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050623.065813.15419.202776@webmail22.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain I am looking for a partially complete project in the FL. GA. area. Preferably in boat stage. Have Corvair engine in progress for it. Lee leebro649@netzero.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:51:59 -0500 (CDT) From: bgdfix@vvm.com Subject: Re: KR> Re:wing attach To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <53202.144.183.224.2.1119534719.squirrel@www.vvm.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All! I'm of the opinion that a washer under the head is best for spreading the forces out more evenly. Also when the bolt is turned on installation the proper way is to only turn the nut. While I know that this does not always happen. Having a washer under the head will tend to reduce scratches and stress risers. Just my opinion Brian G. Douglas N8575C KR2 with nose (training) Wheel Killeen, Texas A&P, PP SEL PS I also use the nylon nuts and add "run on" TQ to the standard torque called out for the bolt/nut size See you all at MVN > Well OK-- I wasn't clear enough. It is the 8 bolts per side(4 an-3 and > 4 > an-6) and it is the metal to metal of the wing attach fittings. I just > wanted to make sure I don't have a silly mistake for FAA inspection next > week. I'm certain that the nut should have a washer at least to keep from > gauging the attach strap. But I'm not sure if it should have a washer > under the bolt head to spread the bolt head pressure out on the wing > attach strap. > > Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > BTW- I just received the fast turn a round in history from the FAA. > Sent my paper work for review on Saturday and got it back in the mail > today all reviewed and with only 3 small comments to change. I hope > the plane goes that well. > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:15:12 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> new pics To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c577fd$f8a7b9a0$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I'm building an 's' and its not in mine. Much of the strength is in the ply....... However I like the idea, although I would have rounded the foam to give the fuselage a more voluptuous shape! Peter Drake ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Stone" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: Re: KR> new pics > Ron, > It's been a good many years since I built so I was surprised to > see foam being used on the fuselage. When I built my KR-2 from 1976 > to 1978 the fuselage was just spruce and plywood skin. It looks like > from the pictures > you are using foam and then glassing over it? This is the way the plans > called for building the tail feathers, upper fudelage and wings but not > the > bottom fuselage. Is this called for in the "S" plans or just your own > design? > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tex > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Smith" > To: ; "ROGER" ; "Sandy" > ; "sandy42" > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 AM > Subject: KR> new pics > > >> Hello Knetters, >> >> I have some new pics for you >> >> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php >> >> Regards, >> Ron Smith, >> Cypress Ca, U.S. >> >> Kr2s boat stage >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 22/06/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 09:34:46 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re:wing attach To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b501c57800$b46d1cf0$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Brian Douglas wrote: > PS I also use the nylon nuts and add "run on" TQ to the standard > torque called out for the bolt/nut size Running torque is especially critical on prop bolts, if you are using the steel locknuts (like I am). Running torque it 5 ft-lbs, so if the prop is supposed to be torqued to 10 ft-lbs, you need to set the torque wrench for 15 ft-lbs to compensate for the extra torque required just to get the nut on the bolt. I determined the 5 ft-lb running torque valve by sneaking up on the break-away position of my inch-pound torque wrench while tightening the nut on the bolt, which was clamped in a vise. I used the thin washers under both the bolts and the nuts for the WAFs. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:26:35 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Re:wing attach To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree. I intend to do just that. But the initial question was about inspection. If your inspector is of the standard type, he/she will like "approved" methods. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France bgdfix@vvm.com Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-06-23 15:51 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-06-23 16:09 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Re:wing attach Hi All! I'm of the opinion that a washer under the head is best for spreading the forces out more evenly. Also when the bolt is turned on installation the proper way is to only turn the nut. While I know that this does not always happen. Having a washer under the head will tend to reduce scratches and stress risers. Just my opinion Brian G. Douglas N8575C KR2 with nose (training) Wheel Killeen, Texas A&P, PP SEL PS I also use the nylon nuts and add "run on" TQ to the standard torque called out for the bolt/nut size See you all at MVN > Well OK-- I wasn't clear enough. It is the 8 bolts per side(4 an-3 and > 4 > an-6) and it is the metal to metal of the wing attach fittings. I just > wanted to make sure I don't have a silly mistake for FAA inspection next > week. I'm certain that the nut should have a washer at least to keep from > gauging the attach strap. But I'm not sure if it should have a washer > under the bolt head to spread the bolt head pressure out on the wing > attach strap. > > Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > BTW- I just received the fast turn a round in history from the FAA. > Sent my paper work for review on Saturday and got it back in the mail > today all reviewed and with only 3 small comments to change. I hope > the plane goes that well. > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:21:39 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: KR> Having a washer under the head To: "KRNET" Message-ID: <002601c57818$07df7380$0202a8c0@Disorganized> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brian's comments are correct, in my opinion. If you will look at the underside of a bolt head, you will see a nice little radius , which is a stress reliever. (also see recent comments about radii in crankshafts). In fact, there is a right way to turn the washer so that the punch side is toward the head. I've been a Designee, then Tech Counselor for about 33 years, and a Mechanical engineer for 48 years, and have never seen a satisfactory REASON for a limit of two washers under a nut. More to the point, where the bolt is carrying a shear load ( think WAFs ) you need to be absolutely sure that the body of the bolt passes completely through the fitting, not threads in the fitting. At LEAST one thick washer, and as many as needed to allow visual inspection to confirm that the nut is torqued properly, not bottomed out on the threads. SEE AC43-13-1B, Section 7-37, which says maximum 1/8 inch of washers, but no reason stated. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+ronandmartha=earthlink.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of bgdfix@vvm.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:52 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Re:wing attach Hi All! I'm of the opinion that a washer under the head is best for spreading the forces out more evenly. Also when the bolt is turned on installation the proper way is to only turn the nut. While I know that this does not always happen. Having a washer under the head will tend to reduce scratches and stress risers. Just my opinion Brian G. Douglas ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:55:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> new pics To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050623185532.99428.qmail@web81702.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Robert, What I'm doing is NOT to plans. I do not recommend it. It was more difficult to build and I did not get the weight savings I was hoping for. I did get some benefits, and for me they were worth it. My plane will also have "swiss style mufflers", and a 3/16 plexiglass bubble canopy, and some real dense sound deadening material at the firewall. What I'm going for is ......quiet. --- "Robert L. Stone" wrote: > Ron, > It's been a good many years since I built so I > was surprised to see > foam being used on the fuselage. When I built my > KR-2 from 1976 to 1978 the > fuselage was just spruce and plywood skin. It looks > like from the pictures > you are using foam and then glassing over it? This > is the way the plans > called for building the tail feathers, upper > fudelage and wings but not the > bottom fuselage. Is this called for in the "S" > plans or just your own > design? > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tex > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Smith" > To: ; "ROGER" > ; "Sandy" > ; "sandy42" > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:13 AM > Subject: KR> new pics > > > > Hello Knetters, > > > > I have some new pics for you > > > > http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php > > > > Regards, > > Ron Smith, > > Cypress Ca, U.S. > > > > Kr2s boat stage > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> new pics To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050623190811.93580.qmail@web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Peter Drake wrote: > I'm building an 's' and its not in mine. Much of the > strength is in the > ply....... > However I like the idea, although I would have > rounded the foam to give the > fuselage a more voluptuous shape! > Peter Drake > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert L. Stone" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: KR> new pics > > Peter, You saying my baby ain't voluptuous? :) That is the way some others did it. I just didn't want to do all that extra work with the wood. On the strength issue.......... Others have done what I did with regular glass. I am using c 282. This fuselage is VERY strong. I will have a BRS chute in case I made a real bad choice. For me it will be "EXPERIMENTAL". Ron Smith, kr2ssxl Cypress ca ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:30:00 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: KR> Re: inspection To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050623.173027.-133811.1.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Guy's Just got done talking to the man that is planning on inspecting my plane next week. To start off with he said that I had the best and most complete paper package he had ever received. So far so good . Thanks to Dan H. and anyone else that I plagiarized information from. That being said he has concern about the aerocarb. So I'll see how that runs when he is here. Let the count down begin! Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:24:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Clint Matthews Subject: Re: KR> Need Transponder Mode C To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050623232407.44591.qmail@web50005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There is one on eBay with altitude recorder ending in about 20 hours and some and it ends womewhere around 3:30 PM pacific time. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4557131175 Be sure to put the entire link into your search bar to pull up the auction. danrh@alltel.net wrote: I am looking for a compact transponder with mode C, either used or new. Please advise of your favorite place to get such items. Thanks, Dan Heath from work _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:55:08 -0500 From: "Mike Turner" Subject: KR> Need Altitude Recorder To: "krnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a Terra TRT250 transponder but I need an altitude recorder, wiring harness, and antenna. Anyone no of one? ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 19:41:27 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Need Altitude Recorder To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <1d1101c57855$74a3c3d0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mike Turner wrote: > I have a Terra TRT250 transponder but I need an altitude recorder, > wiring harness, and antenna. That's easy enough. Make your own! I used a computer cable for one end of the cable, (so at least one end was "factory" perfect), shortened it and put a radio shack D-shell on it and ran it between the TRT250 and an off the shelf Ameri-King AK-350 encoder. If you need the schematic, send me your address and I'll throw it in the mail to you (it's 11x17 or I'd just pdf it)... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:14:14 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> motivation To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050623201414.0082e4c0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, Last Sunday (Fathers day here in the U.S.) I made a 60 mile flight in the KR to the grass strip home of a local EAA chapter for their monthly meeting. Puffy clouds at 5000 made for a smooth, cool ride down at 6500. Still inspired by the flight on Monday morning I sat down and wrote the following poem. I thought of saving it for the awards banquet at the Gathering but realized that many of you won't be there and you too may find it motivating and inspire you to get back out to the workshop and make more sanding dust. And for those already flying, I'd hope you take a fresh look at all the sights you get to see on your next flight. Enjoy........... Larry Flesner ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ KR Flight I'm setting high on lofty perch, such grandeur do I see This view above the earth and clouds suspends reality The rivers twist and turn their way through fields of green and brown And I can see the paths they take that leads from town to town The patchwork patterns made by man are such an awesome thing In disbelief I watch the wonders slip beneath my wing His efforts show in every field with patterns seldom seen Each season brings a painting new on pallets fresh and clean I swoop and soar about the clouds each one unique and new My senses seem inadequate to take in all I view Is all I see the evidence of God in realms unknown Or could the world I'm seeing now evolve all on it's own All too soon the time slips by, this dream-state soon will end My only hope -"God bless these wings that I might fly again" © Larry Flesner, June20, 2005 Carterville, Illinois ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:42:50 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: RE: KR> motivation To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005652414250687@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Larry, that is b e a u t i f u l Joachim > [Original Message] > From: larry flesner > To: KRnet > Date: 6/23/2005 8:18:06 PM > Subject: KR> motivation > > > Netters, > > > Last Sunday (Fathers day here in the U.S.) I made a 60 mile flight in > the KR to the grass strip home of a local EAA chapter for their > monthly meeting. Puffy clouds at 5000 made for a smooth, cool ride > down at 6500. Still inspired by the flight on Monday morning I sat > down and wrote the following poem. I thought of saving it for the > awards banquet at the Gathering but realized that many of you won't be > there and you too may find it motivating and inspire you to get back > out to the workshop and make more sanding dust. And for those already > flying, I'd hope you take a fresh look at all the sights you get to > see on your next flight. > > Enjoy........... > > Larry Flesner > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > KR Flight > > I'm setting high on lofty perch, such grandeur do I see > This view above the earth and clouds suspends reality > > The rivers twist and turn their way through fields of green and brown > And I can see the paths they take that leads from town to town > > The patchwork patterns made by man are such an awesome thing In > disbelief I watch the wonders slip beneath my wing > > His efforts show in every field with patterns seldom seen Each season > brings a painting new on pallets fresh and clean > > I swoop and soar about the clouds each one unique and new > My senses seem inadequate to take in all I view > > Is all I see the evidence of God in realms unknown > Or could the world I'm seeing now evolve all on it's own > > All too soon the time slips by, this dream-state soon will end My only > hope -"God bless these wings that I might fly again" > > > © Larry Flesner, June20, 2005 > Carterville, Illinois > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:42:50 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Stang To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Someone has his airworthiness certificate today and I made the first half hour flight a couple of hours ago. YeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa!! Things went great and the plane is a blast to fly. Looks like my cruise speed at 3,000' and no wheel pants yet is around 145 knots. It is a little hard to compare to a KR until I get some more time, but the grin factor seems about the same. The Stang is definitely faster and has a better climb. Pitch sensitivity is about the same, but the Stang also has more sensitive ailerons (300 degree plus pur second roll rate)and sensitive rudder. The KR requires very little attention to the rudder compared to the Stang. You have to work to keep the ball centered in the Stang. It is very similar to a Pitts that way. Landings in the Stang are much easier because it has big effective flaps and it is much more capable of a 3 point landing that sticks than the KR is. The KR is still my first love and I can't wait to get my 2 in the air. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:58 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Stang Hmmm.... Sounds like someone may or may not have his airworthiness certificate yet. Fly (or not) safely! Scott Stanton Raleigh NC Brian Kraut wrote: >I can neither confirm nor deny the rumor that a Midget Mustang may or >may not have gotten excessively light on the mains for a few seconds >during two high speed taxii tests today. A YeeeeHaaa may or may not >have been involved. > >Brian Kraut >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >www.engalt.com > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:56:46 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: RE: KR> Stang To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005652415646343@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Congrats to someone! Joachim > [Original Message] > From: Brian Kraut > To: KRnet > Date: 6/23/2005 8:48:33 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Stang > > Someone has his airworthiness certificate today and I made the first > half hour flight a couple of hours ago. YeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa!! > Things went great and the plane is a blast to fly. Looks like my > cruise speed at 3,000' > and no wheel pants yet is around 145 knots. > > It is a little hard to compare to a KR until I get some more time, but > the grin factor seems about the same. The Stang is definitely faster > and has a > better climb. Pitch sensitivity is about the same, but the Stang also > has more sensitive ailerons (300 degree plus pur second roll rate)and sensitive > rudder. The KR requires very little attention to the rudder compared > to the > Stang. You have to work to keep the ball centered in the Stang. It > is very > similar to a Pitts that way. Landings in the Stang are much easier because > it has big effective flaps and it is much more capable of a 3 point landing > that sticks than the KR is. > > The KR is still my first love and I can't wait to get my 2 in the air. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Scott > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:58 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Stang > > > Hmmm.... Sounds like someone may or may not have his airworthiness > certificate yet. > > Fly (or not) safely! > > Scott Stanton > Raleigh NC > > Brian Kraut wrote: > > >I can neither confirm nor deny the rumor that a Midget Mustang may or > >may not have gotten excessively light on the mains for a few seconds > >during two > >high speed taxii tests today. A YeeeeHaaa may or may not have been > >involved. > > > >Brian Kraut > >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > >www.engalt.com > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:02:45 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Need Transponder Mode C To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a brand new in the box Garmin GTX-320 for sale for $1,000. It normally sells for about $1,300. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:24 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Need Transponder Mode C I am looking for a compact transponder with mode C, either used or new. Please advise of your favorite place to get such items. Thanks, Dan Heath from work _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:05:45 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Need Transponder Mode C To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004801c57869$9e939b20$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Would you take an IOU Orma ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:07:59 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Need Transponder Mode C To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" for how long? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Orma Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:06 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Need Transponder Mode C Would you take an IOU Orma _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 246 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================