From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 258 Date: 7/4/2005 3:18:28 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Sad tale... (wilder_jeff Wilder) 2. Staples (Joe Beyer) 3. Subject: KR> Revmaster lives! (Joe Beyer) 4. RE: T-88 (Stephen Jacobs) 5. RE: sad tale (Don Morris) 6. Re: Sad tale... (patrusso) 7. Re: Sad tale... (Dan Heath) 8. rudder trim (Mark Langford) 9. Re: rudder trim (Dan Heath) 10. Paul Rudolph is out of the office. (Paul_Rudolph@hmco.com) 11. Re: Fun for Sale (Jim Sellars) 12. Re: rudder trim (Mark Langford) 13. T-88 (patrick36@usfamily.net) 14. Sticky glops (patrick36@usfamily.net) 15. facet fuel pumps (phil brookman) 16. Re: facet fuel pumps (Dan Heath) 17. Re: facet fuel pumps (phil brookman) 18. Re:Another short report 357CJ (Joseph H Horton) 19. Re: Re:Another short report 357CJ (Mark Langford) 20. Re: Sad tale... (Bob) 21. Re: Sad tale... (Bob Glidden) 22. Sad tale... (rhartwig11@juno.com) 23. Arlington Roll Call (John Bouyea) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:01:51 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: RE: KR> Sad tale... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Northern Colorado >From: "Brian Kraut" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: RE: KR> Sad tale... >Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:54:25 -0400 > >You will get more responses if you tell us where you are at. > >Brian Kraut >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >www.engalt.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On >Behalf Of Don Morris >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:37 PM >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Sad tale... > > >Hi. > >I recently purchased a KR2 project off of ebay, and picked it up this >weekend. Unfortunately, I have now concluded that this KR will never >fly. Looking over the log books (and photos) I have come to the >conclusion that the first two builders did a good job, but the last one >was a bit of a butcher. He did things like attach the canopy by >drilling bolt holes through the upper longeron. His fiberglass work >was unbelieveably bad - the cowl modifications to fit the revmaster >engine were 3/8 inch thick in the wrong places, and terribly lumpy. >But, I just couldn't tell the old man that his project would never be >safe to fly, so I still bought it, looking to get my money back in >parts (and maybe start my own from scratch later on). The saving grace >of this all was that he had lots of parts that he didn't build, and he >bought the best of everything, and he had 2 kits. So, I have a lot of >stuff for sale. I thought some of the KR'ers on this site might be >interested, and I hope you will pardon my signing up for the list for this >purpose. (I also really like KR's, if that counts for anything. >Witness that I was a "sucker" and bought the project.) > >As far as I can tell, I have two complete sets of the guppy landing >gear if anyone is interested at all. I have a built-per-plans >tailwheel and a beautiful maule fully castoring tailwheel with spring >and pneumatic tire. I have all of the metal fittings built up inside >the plane. I have preformed wingtips (factory new). I have an extra >pre-molded turtledeck - untouched - and a cowling - untouched also. I >am not sure which cowling it is. If anyone wants it, they can have the >one he modified. Those customizing their cowlings heavily could >probably cut out the areas he changed a lot, and make some use of the >nose bowl area. I have an extra canopy frame, but it needs repair. I >have basic VFR flight instruments - brand new never used - all >available at reduced cost. I have a complete foam set from the mid >90's. I don't know if it is age limited at all. Finally, I have the >real kicker - a zero time (test run only) Revmaster 2100 Turbocharged >fuel injected engine that makes me go all weak at the knees. It really >is an amazing engine. > >What I would really like to do is sell the engine, mount, possibly a >cowl, all the accessories, all the fuel system possible, the engine >instrumentation, and all the applicaple cables, etc. in one place to >one person. The only thing I do NOT have is the prop. For those of >you builders out there, this is a chance to be DONE with your >propulsion system in one or two weekends for a fraction of the cost. >Another interesting possibility would be for a builder with a boat >fuselage to buy all the premade metal fittings and such in one chunk, >and save a lot of time. I really have no plans to sell the fuselage, >as I feel that it is not easily made airworthy. However, if you know >what you are getting into, I could be pursauded to almost give it away. >It still has lots of good stuff in it. I believe the wings are good, >but if you are interested, you would want to do a close inspection. >They have wing tanks and strobe wires in them. Oh yes, I have good >WAFs. > >My basic benchmark on price is 50% of cost. I prefer to talk by >personal email off the list, but I am now a list member, and intend to >stay that way for some time, so you can also reach me by general post. >Advice is welcome. > >Thanks all for your time, and happy building. > >-Don > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:18:31 -0700 From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: KR> Staples To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree that staples are the thing to use. You've got to have a good bond and weights will distort and twist the structure. In the '70's someone mailed in an article to the news letter about a method of removing staples. Have a pattern drawn on the belly skin on both sides. one is the glue area (inside) and the outside is the staple guide. Get some plastic band strap material, used for fastening boxes to pallets, and tape it over the staple guide lines. Metal won't do. When shooting staples you go through the band strap and then through the skin. The next day when the glue has dried just pull on one end of the band strap to lift the staples. I didn't use this method myself because at the time I hadn't thought of it. It really isn't that much work to use a chisel to lift the staple up and grab it with a pair of pliers. I filled the indentions with plastic wood that I bought at the hardware store. -Joe > Hello, netters; > > I have made a search first but did not get an answer. > > I will be installing my belly skin this weekend and wonder. Should I > use staples or weights? I have enough jugs filled with water to cover > the entire skin. I don't know if this would distort, twist, or even > create a good contact. Sure would be nice not to have to remove those > staples. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:25:43 -0700 From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Subject: KR> Revmaster lives! To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 18:08:31 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> Revmaster lives! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >There is a good bit of leakage out of the Posa with the fuel valve on >and the engine not running. I seem to recall that this is normal on a >Posa? It's normal. -Joe ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:27:45 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> T-88 To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000201c58059$1f959ab0$6264a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there some way to thin T-88 without losing the bonding power. +++++++++++++++ After much research I have concluded that the short answer is NO. There are however various considerations depending on the specific application I have emailed to you (direct) a copy of an article on this subject. This paper was in reply to a similar question pertaining to the West system, but I believe that the info pertains to epoxies in general. Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 07:16:25 -0500 From: Don Morris Subject: KR> RE: sad tale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <42C92899.1060302@donsplans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brian Kraut wrote: >You will get more responses if you tell us where you are at. > Thanks. I was pretty tired and shell-shocked when I wrote that email. Feeling a lot better about it this morning. I haven't changed my opinion about selling (or my wife's either) so I will post contact info. Don Morris Tallula, IL (Near Springfield) 217-634-4301 I work as an A&P at Garrett Aviation in Springfield, and have to go in very early. Consequently, if you want to call, please do so between 4:30 and 8 pm central time on weekdays. Weekends it is just "Catch as Catch Can" but please not before 8 am or after 9 pm. Email is really best - I check mine several times every day. I am off this morning to paw over the project with my Wicks aircraft and Aircraft Spruce catalogs to figure out exactly what everything is. I'll try to shoot a lot of pictures, and get back with the folks that wrote me specifically, probably tomorrow. Thanks all for your responces, and often condolences! -Don ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:29:52 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Sad tale... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c58094$141da750$3ca772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Don Where are you? Sad tale indeed. It happened to me this year as well. Thanks that it was just an engine, but with all the ascessories. Almost every part was shot or very out dated..... including engine. I purchased thru one of the KR netters so thought that since he was one of the gang so to speak, I could trust on a deal. When I uncrated the engine and ascessories,.... found that the packing newspapers were all dated 1988. The netter I bought it from ( after I complained) said he purchased it years ago on ebay but never got around to building so decided to sell it. He actually had the audacity to say that I should take up the issue with the guy who originally screwed him!! He was innocent, he said!! Se la vie! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Morris" To: Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: KR> Sad tale... > Hi. > > I recently purchased a KR2 project off of ebay, and picked it up this > weekend. Unfortunately, I have now concluded that this KR will never > fly. Looking over the log books (and photos) I have come to the > conclusion that the first two builders did a good job, but the last > one was a bit of a butcher. He did things like attach the canopy by > drilling bolt holes through the upper longeron. His fiberglass work > was unbelieveably bad - the cowl modifications to fit the revmaster > engine were 3/8 inch thick in the wrong places, and terribly lumpy. > But, I just couldn't tell the old man that his project would never be > safe to fly, so I still bought it, looking to get my money back in > parts (and maybe start my own from scratch later on). The saving > grace of this all was that he had lots of parts that he didn't build, > and he bought the best of everything, and he had 2 kits. So, I have a > lot of stuff for sale. I thought some of the KR'ers on this site > might be interested, and I hope you will pardon my signing up for the list for this > purpose. (I also really like KR's, if that counts for anything. > Witness that I was a "sucker" and bought the project.) > > As far as I can tell, I have two complete sets of the guppy landing > gear if anyone is interested at all. I have a built-per-plans > tailwheel and a beautiful maule fully castoring tailwheel with spring > and pneumatic tire. I have all of the metal fittings built up inside > the plane. I have preformed wingtips (factory new). I have an extra > pre-molded turtledeck - untouched - and a cowling - untouched also. I > am not sure which cowling it is. If anyone wants it, they can have > the one he modified. Those customizing their cowlings heavily could > probably cut out the areas he changed a lot, and make some use of the > nose bowl area. I have an extra canopy frame, but it needs repair. I > have basic VFR flight instruments - brand new never used - all > available at reduced cost. I have a complete foam set from the mid > 90's. I don't know if it is age limited at all. Finally, I have the > real kicker - a zero time (test run only) Revmaster 2100 Turbocharged > fuel injected engine that makes me go all weak at the knees. It > really is an amazing engine. > > What I would really like to do is sell the engine, mount, possibly a > cowl, all the accessories, all the fuel system possible, the engine > instrumentation, and all the applicaple cables, etc. in one place to > one person. The only thing I do NOT have is the prop. For those of > you builders out there, this is a chance to be DONE with your > propulsion system in one or two weekends for a fraction of the cost. > Another interesting possibility would be for a builder with a boat > fuselage to buy all the premade metal fittings and such in one chunk, > and save a lot of time. I really have no plans to sell the fuselage, > as I feel that it is not easily made airworthy. However, if you know > what you are getting into, I could be pursauded to almost give it > away. It still has lots of good stuff in it. I believe the wings are > good, but if you are interested, you would want to do a close > inspection. They have wing tanks and strobe wires in them. Oh yes, I > have good WAFs. > > My basic benchmark on price is 50% of cost. I prefer to talk by > personal email off the list, but I am now a list member, and intend to > stay that way for some time, so you can also reach me by general post. > Advice is welcome. > > Thanks all for your time, and happy building. > > -Don > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:37:24 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Sad tale... To: Message-ID: <42C92D84.000012.03952@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Please tell us who it was. That is a pretty sorry attitude. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- He actually had the audacity to say that I should take up the issue with the guy who originally screwed him!! He was innocent, he said!! ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 07:53:58 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> rudder trim To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00e101c58097$71fd7460$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KRnetHeads, Joe Horton was asking me about my rudder the other day, and got me to thinking about rudder trim on KRs. When I first started flying, I had to keep a good bit of left rudder in, just about all the time except for landing, and a LOT in climbout. That added to the pilot workload more than you would think, and I found myself pushing on both the left (because of habit) AND the right both at the same time during landings, which is not good for the cables or the bellcrank. I really couldn't get a good feel for the rudder because of the huge bias I was having to apply just to keep the ball centered. I finally broke down and added a trim tab after I saw the one on Bill Clapp's plane. Mine is pretty much just like his, about 6" tall and 1.25" wide. I started with a piece of 6" x 2.5" x .025" thick 6061-T6 aluminum, and folded it over about 30 degrees at the midpoint to make the thing shown at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/rudder_trim.jpg . I found that it still wasn't enough, so I bent it to about 45 degrees and now it's just about fine. It really will eliminate one more thing that occupies your mind while you're doing your first flights. Do yourself a favor if you're getting ready to fly and add one of these BEFORE you fly. You're going to need it anyway, so get it over with. As you can see from the photo, mine's just bolted on for the moment. Bill just sliced his trailing edge and floxed his in between the glass, but my trailing edge is all flox, so I couldn't do that. Mine really needs to be epoxied and feathered in place, and I guess I'll do that before it goes back to the airport. Ideally, you could cant the tail something like a degree during construction and gain the same thing, but when I build mine I was going to run a Type 4 off the "correct end", but I wasn't positive, so I left the rudder centered so I could "go either way". Troy Petteway does his trim with a cable and a spring connected to the rudder pedal. That works great with an 0-200, because it pulls on the left pedal so the control can be fastened to the fuselage wall, but for VWs and Corvairs it would have to be the right pedal, so it needs to be panel mounted. He drilled a hole in his panel with a little slot at the bottom of the hole, and uses one of those little "ball chains" like you see on old ceramic light fixtures. He has certain balls marked for climb and cruise, and pulls the chain out to the right color and drops it in the slot to set it. That works too, is adjustable for different flight regimes, and leaves no tab on the outside. Maybe I'll do that instead, come to think of it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:26:22 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> rudder trim To: Message-ID: <42C938FE.000001.04536@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark and others, This may just be an issue with the higher HP engines as I really did not need to use rudder at all except for take off and landing. At the time, I had a 1915 VW. And as you already know, your results WILL vary. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- Do yourself a favor if you're getting ready to fly and add one of these BEFORE you fly. You're going to need it anyway, so get it over with. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:28:20 -0400 From: Paul_Rudolph@hmco.com Subject: KR> Paul Rudolph is out of the office. To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I will be out of the office starting 07/04/2005 and will not return until 07/18/2005. I will respond to your message when I return. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 10:39:16 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Fun for Sale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005601c5809d$c682d150$6401a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Gents: Just a note to let you know that there is a finished and flying KR-2 for sale. Save you wishing you could go to the gathering if you just buy this cute one. KR-2 trike, Subaru powered with a gear reduction drive, radio, GPS, many new items included, tires, brakes, fuel tank, push to talk, coil, carburetor, plugs and wires, prop. Available at Havelock field, Havelock NB, asking $18500. CAN Call 506-856-7977 or email me off line as above. Best regards Jim Sellars > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 08:57:59 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> rudder trim To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010a01c580a0$6388ce80$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan Heath wrote: > This may just be an issue with the higher HP engines as I really did > not need to use rudder at all except for take off and landing. At the time, I > had a 1915 VW. And as you already know, your results WILL vary. Yep, you're right. I was thinking of the Corvairs, mostly. And the bead chain method will work fine for retrofit after the fact. I'm going to order some stainless #6 bead chain from www.mcmaster.com (part number 3606T16 for 39 cents a foot) and make mine internal. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:09:51 -0500 From: Subject: KR> T-88 To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <004201c580b2$cfd4f020$0500a8c0@domain.actdsltmp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks to Jim, Dan, Steve and others that gave me some advice. I guess I'll just have to live with the sticky glops. Patrick Driscoll patrick36@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN Don't let them tell you the sky's the limit. Man's footprints are on the moon --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:53:40 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Sticky glops To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <000e01c580b8$ee628920$0500a8c0@domain.actdsltmp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I noticed that when I scarfed my longerons, I noticed that the T-88 would build up as I brushed it on. The glops appeared on the sides of the boards and I had to scrape them off. I wanted to "paint" the T-88 onto the side pieces of plywood along the glue lines without having it build up outside the lines.Patrick Driscoll patrick36@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN Don't let them tell you the sky's the limit. Man's footprints are on the moon --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:16:40 +0100 From: "phil brookman" Subject: KR> facet fuel pumps To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011301c580bc$245a45b0$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" does anyone know for sure that id the pump stops gravity will still pull fuel through with out the pump impeding the flow p -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 30/06/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 13:25:37 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> facet fuel pumps To: Message-ID: <42C97111.000001.05520@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check it out. http://kr-builder.org/FirewallForward/FuelSystem/FuelPumpTests/index.html See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- does anyone know for sure that id the pump stops gravity will still pull fuel through with out the pump impeding the flow ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:29:33 +0100 From: "phil brookman" Subject: Re: KR> facet fuel pumps To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012d01c580bd$f14125c0$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 brilliant dan thanks p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: Re: KR> facet fuel pumps > Check it out. > > > http://kr-builder.org/FirewallForward/FuelSystem/FuelPumpTests/index.h > tml > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a > time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > -------Original Message------- > > does anyone know for sure that id the pump stops gravity will still > pull fuel through with out the pump impeding the flow > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: > 30/06/2005 > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 21718 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 30/06/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:37:50 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: KR> Re:Another short report 357CJ To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050704.143752.-268561.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Guys, Over the past 3 days I have gotten over an hour and a half of taxi time in. It does work taking it slow and working up to each new speed. A week ago when I first taxied I could not imagine going over 20 mph, as it progressed and I learned when and how much rudder to put in the speeds come up and now the runs are mostly at 50 to 55 mph. The nose wheel gets light right in there. The rudder is very effective then. The last run this morning hit 60 mph and the nose wheel was off the ground for a hundred feet or so. The 60 mph made me feel like the 20 mph did a week ago(scared). But alas that would be the end of the fun for today at least. I had to be at work before 7 am and as I made the turn for the hanger the left brake line broke and I veered off into the grass. I had been making runs both ways on the runway and a sharp left turn at each end with maybe 40 seconds cool off during the run. I think that it got so hot under the wheel pants that the nyflo tube softened enough to allow it to rupture right at the fitting going into the caliper. I have enough tubing there to make the repair but I will be installing a short braided tube to make the connection from the nyflo tube to the caliper. That's all for now Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 14:23:47 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re:Another short report 357CJ To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015901c580cd$e6793000$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe Horton wrote: >I have enough > tubing there to make the repair but I will be installing a short >braided tube to make the connection from the nyflo tube to the >caliper. Another option would be copper in the same size for a few inches, with a union joining up to the original Nylaflow. The copper would dissipate heat pretty quickly, so by the time it got to the union, it wouldn't be a hazard. This kind of stuff won't happen in the future, because you won't be doing much braking after you're flying. Good luck, and stay out of the ditches. In a few weeks you'll be wondering what all the fuss is about... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:44:41 -0500 From: Bob Subject: Re: KR> Sad tale... To: KRnet Message-ID: <42C991A9.1DE758F3@hcnews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don..what would you take for the whole bad deal..and where are you located..I'm north cen tx..only interested in giveaway price..bob hailey..bhailey@hcnews.com Don Morris wrote: > > Hi. > > I recently purchased a KR2 project off of ebay, and picked it up this > weekend. Unfortunately, I have now concluded that this KR will never > fly. Looking over the log books (and photos) I have come to the > conclusion that the first two builders did a good job, but the last > one was a bit of a butcher. He did things like attach the canopy by > drilling bolt holes through the upper longeron. His fiberglass work > was unbelieveably bad - the cowl modifications to fit the revmaster > engine were 3/8 inch thick in the wrong places, and terribly lumpy. > But, I just couldn't tell the old man that his project would never be > safe to fly, so I still bought it, looking to get my money back in > parts (and maybe start my own from scratch later on). The saving > grace of this all was that he had lots of parts that he didn't build, > and he bought the best of everything, and he had 2 kits. So, I have a > lot of stuff for sale. I thought some of the KR'ers on this site > might be interested, and I hope you will pardon my signing up for the list for this > purpose. (I also really like KR's, if that counts for anything. > Witness that I was a "sucker" and bought the project.) > > As far as I can tell, I have two complete sets of the guppy landing > gear if anyone is interested at all. I have a built-per-plans > tailwheel and a beautiful maule fully castoring tailwheel with spring > and pneumatic tire. I have all of the metal fittings built up inside > the plane. I have preformed wingtips (factory new). I have an extra > pre-molded turtledeck - untouched - and a cowling - untouched also. I > am not sure which cowling it is. If anyone wants it, they can have > the one he modified. Those customizing their cowlings heavily could > probably cut out the areas he changed a lot, and make some use of the > nose bowl area. I have an extra canopy frame, but it needs repair. I > have basic VFR flight instruments - brand new never used - all > available at reduced cost. I have a complete foam set from the mid > 90's. I don't know if it is age limited at all. Finally, I have the > real kicker - a zero time (test run only) Revmaster 2100 Turbocharged > fuel injected engine that makes me go all weak at the knees. It > really is an amazing engine. > > What I would really like to do is sell the engine, mount, possibly a > cowl, all the accessories, all the fuel system possible, the engine > instrumentation, and all the applicaple cables, etc. in one place to > one person. The only thing I do NOT have is the prop. For those of > you builders out there, this is a chance to be DONE with your > propulsion system in one or two weekends for a fraction of the cost. > Another interesting possibility would be for a builder with a boat > fuselage to buy all the premade metal fittings and such in one chunk, > and save a lot of time. I really have no plans to sell the fuselage, > as I feel that it is not easily made airworthy. However, if you know > what you are getting into, I could be pursauded to almost give it > away. It still has lots of good stuff in it. I believe the wings are > good, but if you are interested, you would want to do a close > inspection. They have wing tanks and strobe wires in them. Oh yes, I > have good WAFs. > > My basic benchmark on price is 50% of cost. I prefer to talk by > personal email off the list, but I am now a list member, and intend to > stay that way for some time, so you can also reach me by general post. > Advice is welcome. > > Thanks all for your time, and happy building. > > -Don > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:35:40 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Sad tale... To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <010d01c580d7$f1ab3360$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I may be interested depending on what you want for the stuff.I'm in Central Indiana about two hours from Springfield IL. Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 17:08:44 -0500 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> Sad tale... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050704.170844.1996.1.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don, Please send me your e-mail address off net. Dick Hartwig rhartwig11@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:17:04 -0700 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR> Arlington Roll Call To: "'KRNet'" Message-ID: <000001c580e6$2349f510$0201a8c0@dell4600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Northwest Regional event is just a few days away. I'd like to meet up with any and all at the Arlington Fly In to talk KRs and hopefully see Al's newly fledged airplane. Al, Bud, anyone else? Should we meet at 10 on Saturday morning by the fire pit? John Bouyea KR2 - hanging the engine accessories KR2S - boat hanging from the rafters john_0310@bouyea.net www.bouyea.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 258 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================