From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 293 Date: 8/2/2005 9:00:14 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Inspiration from Oshkosh (Brian Kraut) 2. Re: dual controls (Phillip Matheson) 3. Re: KR gathering (Mark Jones) 4. Prop needed (Jim Sellars) 5. RE: Prop needed (Jack Cooper) 6. RE: Prop needed (Mark Jones) 7. Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 292 ( rparker ) 8. Re: Prop needed (FIXERJONES@aol.com) 9. Re: Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 292 (Jim Sellars) 10. Re: Prop needed (Jim Sellars) 11. RE: Prop needed (Mark Jones) 12. Re: Prop needed (Jim Sellars) 13. Re: Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 (idrawtobuild@bak.rr.com) 14. Re: Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 (idrawtobuild@bak.rr.com) 15. Re: Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 (Mark Langford) 16. Re: Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 (Mark Jones) 17. KR2 for SALE (Btremme1@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 00:01:58 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> Inspiration from Oshkosh To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" It has been one busy month. I made the first flight in the M1 about four and a half weeks ago and flew it every chance I got to get the 40 hours off to get it to Oshkosh. The day after I did my first cross country from the east coast of FL to the west coast and over the Gulf of Mexico. The day after I went about 100 miles each way to show the plane to the person who started it and lost his medical before it was done. You could not imagine how happy he was to see it fly. I just wish it had two seats so I could take him for a ride. All of you that have been building for years remember this and make it a priority to get your KRs done while you are young enough to fly them! The next day I left for the 950 nautical mile trip to Oshkosh. I got there in 7.1 hours of flying time. It has been my life's dream to build a plane and fly it to Oshkosh since I was about 10 years old. I thought my first trip there would be in a KR last year, but life had other plans for me. I was in the line to register the plane when the stress of getting the plane done, flying off the hours, and making my longest flight ever finally went away and I realized that I had just lived the dream I have had for 25 years. The happiness and pride hit me like a ton of bricks and I had to get out of the line and take a walk for a half hour. I have not felt like that since the day my son was born. All of you that have been working on your planes forever, and you know who you are, get them done and live your dream. Don't worry about making everything perfect now. Build a strong and safe plane now and worry about all the little additions that take all your time later. You will be wondering why you didn't get it done years ago and having the time of your life. I have flown 59 hours in 30 days and now it is time to take a little time off from flying and fix some oil leaks, finish the wheel pants, and finish my wing root fairings. Then back to the KRs that I have neglected for far too long. Oh, and a very nice KR I had never seen before was at Oshkosh. An older couple that did not make long flights in it brought it to Fon Du Lac about a thousand miles on a trailer. They assembled it there and flew it to Oshkosh for a few days. They flew it back and put it on the trailer for the long drive home when they left. Now that is dedication to an Oshkosh dream. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:28:40 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> dual controls To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000301c59726$e2506c40$19b0dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If you are interested, I have some CAD drawings of the assembly. ---------------------------- Ron I have single controls but want to convert to duel one day. Any chance of a copy as well. Contact me off the net, Phillip Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 05:44:56 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KR gathering To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c5974f$397051c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >How many days Mark? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Cooper" 39 days and counting if you are a die hard KR nut and are arriving on Thursday. Everybody....you have got to be there. It is one phenomenal KR event. IT IS THE EVENT of the year!!!!!!!! Do not miss it........ Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:51:18 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: KR> Prop needed To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <020d01c59782$67c4a390$6501a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Fellows: I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need more pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the performance is very poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The gear reduction, 2 to 1, builds lots of torque, so I would like to have your opinion about where I can get a good prop. I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or a 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and if you have a prop that might work please let me know. Jim ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:27:50 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed To: "Jim Sellars , KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005822172750812@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Jim Check with mark Jones, I believe he has a 3 blade warp drive in the prop bank. Not sure what diameter it is but it would be worth asking. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Jim Sellars > To: KRnet > Date: 8/2/2005 12:52:16 PM > Subject: KR> Prop needed > > Fellows: > I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need more pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the performance is very poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The gear reduction, 2 to 1, builds lots of torque, so I would like to have your opinion about where I can get a good prop. > I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or > a 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and if you have a prop that might work please let me know. > Jim > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:38:13 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C4375@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It is a Warp Drive composite blade, three blade 52" diameter. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Jack Cooper Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:28 PM To: Jim Sellars , KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed Jim Check with mark Jones, I believe he has a 3 blade warp drive in the prop bank. Not sure what diameter it is but it would be worth asking. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Jim Sellars > To: KRnet > Date: 8/2/2005 12:52:16 PM > Subject: KR> Prop needed > > Fellows: > I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need more pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the performance is very poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The gear reduction, 2 to 1, builds lots of torque, so I would like to have your opinion about where I can get a good prop. > I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or > a 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and if you have a prop that might work please let me know. > Jim > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:37:12 -0500 From: " rparker " Subject: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 292 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050802173712.32173.qmail@server278.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm not sure if its still kosher to sell KR and Aviation related parts up here but I just put a Warp Drive prop item # 4566322010 and a Garmin 190 GPS Nav Com item number 4566319361 up for sale on E-bay. Rich Parker ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:10:18 EDT From: FIXERJONES@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <59.2cc09d1d.30211f1a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" check which way the rotation is on the sube to get a test prop,, ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:11:34 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 292 To: "rparker" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c59796$000ae610$6501a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Rich: Can you give me some info about the prop? diameter, hub, etc. buy now price? Thanks Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "rparker" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: KR> Re: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 292 > > > I'm not sure if its still kosher to sell KR and Aviation related parts > up > here but I just put a Warp Drive prop item # 4566322010 and a Garmin 190 > GPS Nav Com item number 4566319361 up for sale on E-bay. > > Rich Parker > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:13:15 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c59796$3c6cf7b0$6501a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark: What sort of a hub does this prop have? Would it fit a SAE 1 hub? Thanks Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed > It is a Warp Drive composite blade, three blade 52" diameter. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Jack Cooper > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:28 PM > To: Jim Sellars , KRnet > Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed > > > Jim > Check with mark Jones, I believe he has a 3 blade warp drive in the > prop bank. Not sure what diameter it is but it would be worth asking. > > Jack Cooper > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Jim Sellars >> To: KRnet >> Date: 8/2/2005 12:52:16 PM >> Subject: KR> Prop needed >> >> Fellows: >> I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better > prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need > more pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the > performance is very poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The > gear reduction, 2 to 1, builds lots of torque, so I would like to have > your opinion about where I can get a good prop. >> I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or >> a > 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and > if you have a prop that might work please let me know. >> Jim >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:25:06 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed To: "Jim Sellars" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C4379@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, the Warp Drive does have a SAE 1 pattern. I have flown it on my Corvair powered KR. However, the prop is out on loan right now. You could be put on next in line for it. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Jim Sellars Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:13 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed Mark: What sort of a hub does this prop have? Would it fit a SAE 1 hub? Thanks Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed > It is a Warp Drive composite blade, three blade 52" diameter. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Jack Cooper > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:28 PM > To: Jim Sellars , KRnet > Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed > > > Jim > Check with mark Jones, I believe he has a 3 blade warp drive in the prop > bank. Not sure what diameter it is but it would be worth asking. > > Jack Cooper > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Jim Sellars >> To: KRnet >> Date: 8/2/2005 12:52:16 PM >> Subject: KR> Prop needed >> >> Fellows: >> I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better > prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need more > pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the performance is very > poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The gear reduction, 2 to 1, > builds lots of torque, so I would like to have your opinion about where I > can get a good prop. >> I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or a > 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and if > you have a prop that might work please let me know. >> Jim >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:29:06 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002101c59798$72f8ac50$6501a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Fixer: It rotates clockwise from the cockpit. So a standard SAE 1 prop, 58 inches diameter would be very nice with big blades and about 65-68 inches of pitch. What do you think? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed > check which way the rotation is on the sube to get a test prop,, > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:27:59 -0700 From: Subject: Re: KR> Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c597a9$0fec9fc0$6401a8c0@qcnotebook> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Does anyone know of a source for a wood crush plate? This engine came with a prop hub extension but not crush plate. Greg Martin ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:30:18 -0700 From: Subject: Re: KR> Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c597a9$6191a7d0$6401a8c0@qcnotebook> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I'm sorry, a Metal (alunimum) crush plate for a wood? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:27 PM Subject: Re: KR> Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 > Does anyone know of a source for a wood crush plate? This engine came > with > a prop hub extension but not crush plate. > > Greg Martin > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:06:42 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002a01c597ae$77058000$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Aircraft Spruce sells them, near the props and spinners in the catalog. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:20:07 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c597b0$5a322080$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Aircraft Spruce and Specialty sells them. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: Re: KR> Wood Prop Crush for 0-200 > Does anyone know of a source for a wood crush plate? This engine came with > a prop hub extension but not crush plate. > > Greg Martin > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 23:40:21 EDT From: Btremme1@aol.com Subject: KR> KR2 for SALE To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi fellow kr2ers, I have what I am estimating to be about 50% complete Kr2 project that I am putting up for sale. I have always been interested in the Kr2 and I just happened to come across this one about three years ago. It was in the exact same condition as it is now. Due to work and school I have had no time to work on this plane and have stored it in my basement for the past three years. Everything you see in the photos was completed by an older man in the construction business who passed away after a heart attack. It is very good craftsmanship and I have some pictures of his construction along the way. (please email me for the pics) In the pictrures you can see the boat is pretty much complete along with the wing spars and the horizontal stabalizer. I have all the canopy and cowling materials. The foam and epoxy will need to repurchased. If your wondering about the style, it is an original design Kr2 with the retractable gear. I have what I believe to be all the plans, drawings, and diagrams. I live in Amissville, VA which is about an hour west of DC. I would be happy to answer any additional questions you may have and send you some pictures of the plane so feel free to call me at (540) 272-1606 or email me at my primary address btremmel@aero.und.edu Thanks for you time, Ben Tremmel CFI University of North Dakota ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 293 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================