From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 296 Date: 8/4/2005 1:13:07 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Starting the adventure! (Peter Drake) 2. Re: Starting the adventure! (Cris.) 3. R?f. : Re: KR> Starting the adventure! (Serge VIDAL) 4. Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Starting the adventure! (Cris.) 5. Spinner quiz (Serge VIDAL) 6. Re: Starting the adventure! (patrusso) 7. Re: Spinner quiz (Dan Heath) 8. Gathering / spouse (larry flesner) 9. Spinner quiz (larry flesner) 10. Re: Prop needed (Jim Sellars) 11. Re: Spinner quiz (Jeff Scott) 12. Re: Prop needed (Jeff Scott) 13. Re: Prop needed (Scott Cable) 14. Oshkosh photo (Dana Overall) 15. Re: Oshkosh photo (Dan Heath) 16. RETRACT ARTICLE (DENE COLLETT (SA)) 17. RE: Oshkosh photo (Mark Jones) 18. RE: Spam: KR> Oshkosh photo (Mark Jones) 19. The local television station did an interview with me and my plane today. (Al Hawkins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:07:10 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> Starting the adventure! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006601c598cb$83c9ca30$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Cris I am in the UK. Perhaps we should start a Euro KR builders club? I took over a part built KR2s which had many modifications, some documented some not. I dont know the system in Italy, but homebuilding is very strictly regulated in the UK and you will need to register your project with the Italian version of the PFA who may stipulate certain mods to make it acceptable to them. I think it is unlikely that they will be as strict as ours but it is worth checking. I am finding building a very stimulating experience and I have learnt a lot already. The advice given by others to look at as many builders sites as possible is very sound. Good Luck Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cris." To: Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: KR> Starting the adventure! > Hi all. > Thanks, Mark for adding me to the list! > > So, folks, my name is Cristiano, 42 year old, writing from Rome, > Italy. I fly an SG-Aviation Storm 280 SI, I own it together with two > nice friends, but I want to start a homebuilding. I'll move to a new > house in 2006, a huge garage available, and the dream could come true. > I think I can do it and after all I'm going to discover it by myself! > > Then, my adventure is starting, decision has been taken for KR2S and > my > very > little problem is... getting the plans! > > I faxed some questions to Rand Robinson but wasn't faxed back. I > really > hope > that if I read on their site to "fax requests" it brings as a consequence > that they are going to fax me back, but maybe I have missed something and > won't blame anyone, I'm new to the game :-) > > Assuming I want to build the plane even if I received no response, how > do > I > order the plans? Calling by phone is not a good idea. My english tends > to... > decay when I'm on the phone and writing is the best option, at the moment. > So I could request the plans and send the money according to what's > written > in the KR site, but... how do I send it? > > As you may understand I'm in trouble starting the whole thing. Any > help is welcome. > > Ciao! > > Cristiano (Roma - Italy) > e-mail: flyingb@gmail.com > > -- > If it has wheels, tits or a propeller, sooner or later it's bound to give > you trouble. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 03/08/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:18:26 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: Re: KR> Starting the adventure! To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In Italy we have two kind of aviation: General Aviation (GA) and VDS (Volo da Diporto o Sportivo, that is ULM). The former, in case of homebuilding, requires that the RAI (the italian registry for aircrafts) is informed before starting the construction, so they can assign your project to an engineer that will become close to you as a brother and will follow you during the whole process until certification. The latter refers to "flying things" whose take off weight is less than 450 kg (for two seats), flying with certain limitation. Roughly: 1000 feet agl max (500 in business days), no CTR crossing, no radio on board (actually changing this one). The advantage is that you maintain your plane as the only person responsible, no paperwork is needed for your activity (apart from medical). The law here does not state any distinction betweeen ready-to-fly planes and kit-built or homebuilt. You build your plane then the AeCI (Aeroclubd'Italia) verifies that it's compliant to the ULM limitations and that's it. Cristiano. 2005/8/4, Peter Drake : > > Hi Cris > I am in the UK. Perhaps we should start a Euro KR builders club? I > took over a part built KR2s which had many modifications, some > documented some not. > I dont know the system in Italy, but homebuilding is very strictly > regulated > in the UK and you will need to register your project with the Italian > version of the PFA who may stipulate certain mods to make it acceptable to > them. I think it is unlikely that they will be as strict as ours but it is > worth checking. > I am finding building a very stimulating experience and I have learnt a > lot > already. The advice given by others to look at as many builders sites as > possible is very sound. > Good Luck > Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cris." > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:19 PM > Subject: KR> Starting the adventure! > > > > Hi all. > > Thanks, Mark for adding me to the list! > > > > So, folks, my name is Cristiano, 42 year old, writing from Rome, > > Italy. > I > > fly an SG-Aviation Storm 280 SI, I own it together with two nice > friends, > > but I want to start a homebuilding. I'll move to a new house in > > 2006, a huge garage available, and the dream could come true. I > > think I can do it and after all I'm going to discover it by myself! > > > > Then, my adventure is starting, decision has been taken for KR2S and > > my very little problem is... getting the plans! > > > > I faxed some questions to Rand Robinson but wasn't faxed back. I > > really hope that if I read on their site to "fax requests" it brings > > as a > consequence > > that they are going to fax me back, but maybe I have missed > > something > and > > won't blame anyone, I'm new to the game :-) > > > > Assuming I want to build the plane even if I received no response, > > how > do > > I > > order the plans? Calling by phone is not a good idea. My english > > tends to... decay when I'm on the phone and writing is the best > > option, at the > moment. > > So I could request the plans and send the money according to what's > > written in the KR site, but... how do I send it? > > > > As you may understand I'm in trouble starting the whole thing. Any > > help > is > > welcome. > > > > Ciao! > > > > Cristiano (Roma - Italy) > > e-mail: flyingb@gmail.com > > > > -- > > If it has wheels, tits or a propeller, sooner or later it's bound to > give > > you trouble. > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > --- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: > 03/08/2005 > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- If it has wheels, tits or a propeller, sooner or later it's bound to give you trouble. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:40:11 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Starting the adventure! To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Cris! I am in Paris, France, and I think it's about time we start a European KR builder's club, if only to give us more weight in our negotiations with our respective airworthiness authorities. You will find that one of the best advantages of the KR is that you will never be alone. Since there is little or no support from Rand Robinson, builders support each other. We are one nice family, complete with family arguments! ;-) Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Peter Drake" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-08-04 10:07 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-08-04 10:07 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Starting the adventure! Hi Cris I am in the UK. Perhaps we should start a Euro KR builders club? I took over a part built KR2s which had many modifications, some documented some not. I dont know the system in Italy, but homebuilding is very strictly regulated in the UK and you will need to register your project with the Italian version of the PFA who may stipulate certain mods to make it acceptable to them. I think it is unlikely that they will be as strict as ours but it is worth checking. I am finding building a very stimulating experience and I have learnt a lot already. The advice given by others to look at as many builders sites as possible is very sound. Good Luck Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cris." To: Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: KR> Starting the adventure! > Hi all. > Thanks, Mark for adding me to the list! > > So, folks, my name is Cristiano, 42 year old, writing from Rome, > Italy. I > fly an SG-Aviation Storm 280 SI, I own it together with two nice friends, > but I want to start a homebuilding. I'll move to a new house in 2006, > a > huge > garage available, and the dream could come true. I think I can do it and > after all I'm going to discover it by myself! > > Then, my adventure is starting, decision has been taken for KR2S and > my > very > little problem is... getting the plans! > > I faxed some questions to Rand Robinson but wasn't faxed back. I > really > hope > that if I read on their site to "fax requests" it brings as a consequence > that they are going to fax me back, but maybe I have missed something and > won't blame anyone, I'm new to the game :-) > > Assuming I want to build the plane even if I received no response, how do > I > order the plans? Calling by phone is not a good idea. My english tends > to... > decay when I'm on the phone and writing is the best option, at the moment. > So I could request the plans and send the money according to what's > written > in the KR site, but... how do I send it? > > As you may understand I'm in trouble starting the whole thing. Any > help is > welcome. > > Ciao! > > Cristiano (Roma - Italy) > e-mail: flyingb@gmail.com > > -- > If it has wheels, tits or a propeller, sooner or later it's bound to give > you trouble. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: 03/08/2005 > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:46:13 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Starting the adventure! To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 European builder's club? It would be a real european thing, since we continue to be french, english, italian and so on... it's time to produce solid facts, talking about europeism :-) So, I am not a builder, yet. I am struggling to order the plans, for now (I stil do not master those procedures to send money abroad and I don't expect help from RR...) and will start studying as soon as I receive them. Oh, BTW, does anyone have some "electronic" sample of the plans or the manual? So to calm my thirst... Let's keep in touch, us "EuroKRs"! C. 2005/8/4, Serge VIDAL : > > Hi, Cris! > > I am in Paris, France, and I think it's about time we start a European > KR builder's club, if only to give us more weight in our negotiations > with our respective airworthiness authorities. > > You will find that one of the best advantages of the KR is that you > will never be alone. Since there is little or no support from Rand > Robinson, builders support each other. We are one nice family, > complete with family arguments! ;-) > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "Peter Drake" > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-08-04 10:07 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-08-04 10:07 > > > Pour : "KRnet" > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Starting the adventure! > > > > Hi Cris > I am in the UK. Perhaps we should start a Euro KR builders club? I > took over a part built KR2s which had many modifications, some > documented some not. > I dont know the system in Italy, but homebuilding is very strictly > regulated > in the UK and you will need to register your project with the Italian > version of the PFA who may stipulate certain mods to make it acceptable to > > them. I think it is unlikely that they will be as strict as ours but > it is > > worth checking. > I am finding building a very stimulating experience and I have learnt > a lot already. The advice given by others to look at as many builders > sites as possible is very sound. > Good Luck > Peter > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cris." > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 6:19 PM > Subject: KR> Starting the adventure! > > > > Hi all. > > Thanks, Mark for adding me to the list! > > > > So, folks, my name is Cristiano, 42 year old, writing from Rome, > > Italy. > I > > fly an SG-Aviation Storm 280 SI, I own it together with two nice > friends, > > but I want to start a homebuilding. I'll move to a new house in > > 2006, a huge garage available, and the dream could come true. I > > think I can do it and after all I'm going to discover it by myself! > > > > Then, my adventure is starting, decision has been taken for KR2S and > > my very little problem is... getting the plans! > > > > I faxed some questions to Rand Robinson but wasn't faxed back. I > > really hope that if I read on their site to "fax requests" it brings > > as a > consequence > > that they are going to fax me back, but maybe I have missed > > something > and > > won't blame anyone, I'm new to the game :-) > > > > Assuming I want to build the plane even if I received no response, > > how > do > > I > > order the plans? Calling by phone is not a good idea. My english > > tends to... decay when I'm on the phone and writing is the best > > option, at the > moment. > > So I could request the plans and send the money according to what's > > written in the KR site, but... how do I send it? > > > > As you may understand I'm in trouble starting the whole thing. Any > > help > is > > welcome. > > > > Ciao! > > > > Cristiano (Roma - Italy) > > e-mail: flyingb@gmail.com > > > > -- > > If it has wheels, tits or a propeller, sooner or later it's bound to > give > > you trouble. > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > --- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.0/63 - Release Date: > 03/08/2005 > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- If it has wheels, tits or a propeller, sooner or later it's bound to give you trouble. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:51:20 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Spinner quiz To: "Cris." , KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Two days ago, I was fitting my prop to the hub to turn the engine by hand (I do that from time to time for preservation, when I notoiced something very strange. My KR2 has a fiberglass spinner. There used to have a plywood plate at the front end of the prop, after the crush plate whose function is to help hold the spinner in place nicely. It matches the inside of the spinner cone tightly. About 80 fligh hours ago, I replaced that plate with an aluminum one (2024 T4, 3mm thick). What I saw yesterday is that the plate has been "eaten" badly (looks like uneven grinding) on two opposed sides, exactly abeam the propeller blades cutouts. I then checked the spinner cone, and indeed, the fiberglass is eaten exactly at the same place. Would anybody have a convincing explanation for that? What must I do? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:06:44 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Starting the adventure! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003f01c598dc$3804e880$37a772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Whoa! I am one of those guys who finds the building experience as equally exciting as the flying. And judging from the info in the archives and the net pictures, I would bet that there are many of us who when finally finishing our projects need to begin another. I am on my fifth!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Smith" > > > Of course I have never flown a Kr and I'm sure that > beats building!!! > > Ron Smith > Kr2ssxl > Cypress Ca U.S.A. > mercedesmann@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:08:54 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Spinner quiz To: Message-ID: <42F1E936.00000B.02672@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, that would be a telltale sign that the spinner, or something up there, is not balanced. I don't know what you should do, but, I would get a new aluminum spinner and backing plate. Make sure it matches the thickness of your prop and crush plate. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- the plate has been "eaten" badly , the fiberglass is eaten exactly at the same place. Would anybody have a convincing explanation for that? What must I do? ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:07:11 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Gathering / spouse To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050804070711.00839d20@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My wife said I could go this year if I wanted because last year I bought her flowers and had them sent to work.. If I do that again she will let me go. >Steven Phillabaum ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Steven, Have you considered asking her to come along. Mt.Vernon will be having their craft fair that same weekend and there are lots of antique stores in Mt.Vernon and the immediate area she could visit. Go to the Gathering web page: www.krgathering.org and check out the Mt.Vernon area tourist info and events page. You could stuff her in a cab and send her to the winery for the weekend ! :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 07:26:06 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Spinner quiz To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050804072606.00796320@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >What I saw yesterday is that the plate has been "eaten" badly (looks >like >uneven grinding) on two opposed sides, exactly abeam the propeller blades >cutouts. >I then checked the spinner cone, and indeed, the fiberglass is eaten >exactly at the same place. >Would anybody have a convincing explanation for that? What must I do? >>Serge Vidal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Serge, You are getting movement between the two components, probably because the spinner is not "perfectly" balanced. Achieving the "perfect" balance is probably not possible so you must attach the spinner in such a way as to eliminate the movement. I have an all aluminum spinner which includes a front and rear mounting plate. The front plate was a "press" fit so I didn't attach any hardware to it when first mounting the spinner. After about 10 hours of flight I had reason to remove the prop and noticed the spinner to front plate area was blackened from chaffing because there was some movement between the two. I added four or six screws to the front plate / spinner area and no more problem. I'm convinced you must have a front mount plate and that it must be secured with hardware. Others may suggest different and claim no problems. I'd say they are just lucky. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:31:26 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed To: "KRnet" , Message-ID: <007801c598f0$6f56f530$6401a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Still need a good direction to chaise down a prop. I would like to have a 58" three bladed composite, but would like advice about wooden props too. Please let me know any ideas. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed > It is a Warp Drive composite blade, three blade 52" diameter. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Jack Cooper > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:28 PM > To: Jim Sellars , KRnet > Subject: RE: KR> Prop needed > > > Jim > Check with mark Jones, I believe he has a 3 blade warp drive in the > prop bank. Not sure what diameter it is but it would be worth asking. > > Jack Cooper > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Jim Sellars >> To: KRnet >> Date: 8/2/2005 12:52:16 PM >> Subject: KR> Prop needed >> >> Fellows: >> I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better > prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need > more pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the > performance is very poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The > gear reduction, 2 to 1, builds lots of torque, so I would like to have > your opinion about where I can get a good prop. >> I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or >> a > 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and > if you have a prop that might work please let me know. >> Jim >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:15:02 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Spinner quiz To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050804.081542.15436.253701@webmail04.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain -- larry flesner wrote: >What I saw yesterday is that the plate has been "eaten" badly (looks >like >uneven grinding) on two opposed sides, exactly abeam the propeller blades >cutouts. >I then checked the spinner cone, and indeed, the fiberglass is eaten >exactly at the same place. >Would anybody have a convincing explanation for that? What must I do? >>Serge Vidal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >I added four or six screws to the front plate / spinner area and >no more problem. I'm convinced you must have a front mount >plate and that it must be secured with hardware. Others may suggest >different and claim no problems. I'd say they are just lucky. > >Larry Flesner And I'll argue design vs luck with you. :o) However, Larry's point is correct that you have chafing happening in the nose of your spinner, which will eventually lead to failure. They all do it no matter how well it fits unless you devise a way to prevent the chafing. Even if you could achieve a perfect balance and tracking for the spinner, it would still chafe in the nose due to the power pulses of the engine and the flexibility of the spinner and it's back plate. The easiest fix is to take Larry's advice and secure it with hardware. I used a different method, but then I do most everything a little differently. Jeff Scott N1213W - Won't make this year's gathering. :o( ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:25:42 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed To: paladinfinancial@rogers.com, krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050804.082620.15436.253921@webmail04.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Jim, You might check pricing and availability of the GSC props. I used a 3 blade GSC prop on a VW powered Avid Flyer that I built. I really liked the prop for the short time that I used it. Ground adjustable, aluminum hub, wood blades, composite leading edge. shows a picture of one of their three blade props on a trike. Jeff Scott -- "Jim Sellars" wrote: Still need a good direction to chaise down a prop. I would like to have a 58" three bladed composite, but would like advice about wooden props too. Please let me know any ideas. Jim ----- Original Message ----- >> Fellows: >> I have a tryke, subaru powered KR-2, ea-81, in need of a better > prop. I have room for 58 inches of diameter, but feel like I need > more pitch. The subaru is turning 4500 RPM static, but the > performance is very poor, compared to what it seems it should do. The > gear reduction, 2 to 1, builds lots of torque, so I would like to have > your opinion about where I can get a good prop. >> I am thinking about a composite three blade ground adjustable, or >> a > 58" 68" good wooden prop. Any ideas please give me your thoughts and > if you have a prop that might work please let me know. >> Jim >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 10:43:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> Prop needed To: Jim Sellars , KRnet Message-ID: <20050804174304.97235.qmail@web53008.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Jim, Try www.warpdrive.com (I think is the website or you can google warp drive props) The thing that I like about a Warp Drive is the ability to adjust the pitch. Which allows you to optimise the pitch settings for your particular engine / aircraft combination. To do that with a wooden prop is expensive to have done... Warp Drive also sells a conversion kit to convert a ground adjustable prop to a flight adjustable prop. So if you ever decide that you want more performance out of your airplane, or decide to add a turbo to your EA-81, having a flight adjustable prop is a simple matter of conversion kit installed. Something to think about anyway... Jim Sellars wrote: Still need a good direction to chase down a prop. I would like to have a 58" three bladed composite, but would like advice about wooden props too. Please let me know any ideas. Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:35:35 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" Subject: KR> Oshkosh photo To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Off another list:-) http://www.airventure.org/2005/gallery/images/sun24/detailing.jpg Do you think that the photographer even noticed the Bonanza? Elaine and I are pumped about camping at the lake for the KR Gathering............how many days??? Dana Overall 1999 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:41:51 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh photo To: Message-ID: <42F26F7F.000005.01572@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I doubt it. Where have you been? Too minnie daze. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- From: Dana Overall Date: 08/04/05 15:36:07 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Oshkosh photo Off another list:-) http://www.airventure.org/2005/gallery/images/sun24/detailing.jpg Do you think that the photographer even noticed the Bonanza? Elaine and I are pumped about camping at the lake for the KR Gathering............how many days??? Dana Overall 1999 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 22:01:57 +0200 From: "DENE COLLETT (SA)" Subject: KR> RETRACT ARTICLE To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c5992f$81f42160$b2a6fea9@dene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi guys/gals I am trying to identify an article that appeared in a magazine in April 1982. The article refers to the construction of a manual tricycle retract system for a KR. i only have a very bad copy of one page showing the workings of the system which looks much like Ron Eason's (main gear anyway). Can anybody perhaps identify what mag the article appeared in and better yet, if someone has the article, could they scan it and send it to me please. Thanks Regards Dene Collett KR2S builder South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:08:41 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh photo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C438A@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Will you be outside the tent any this year? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dana Overall Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:36 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Oshkosh photo Off another list:-) http://www.airventure.org/2005/gallery/images/sun24/detailing.jpg Do you think that the photographer even noticed the Bonanza? Elaine and I are pumped about camping at the lake for the KR Gathering............how many days??? Dana Overall 1999 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 15:12:09 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: Spam: KR> Oshkosh photo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C438B@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 35.....thirty five.......THIRTY FIVE...I would say I am getting a $%^# on but that is not appropriate...... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dana Overall Gathering............how many days??? _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 13:12:49 -0700 From: "Al Hawkins" Subject: KR> The local television station did an interview with me and my plane today. To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001001c59930$e3e14b40$6702a8c0@mycomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Local Global news hour will be televising a short interview about my plane. I was a little nervous landing as I knew about a million people might be watching it. But I greased it :-) Al Hawkins KR2 C-GDPU Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 296 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================