From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 3 Date: 1/3/2005 6:17:49 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. KR annual (Stephen Jacobs) 2. R?f. : KR> Control surface failure. (Serge VIDAL) 3. Re: Grove gear (Dan Heath) 4. Re: KR annual (larry flesner) 5. Re: KR annual (Jeff Scott) 6. Re: N Number req for Registration (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 7. R?f. : Re: KR> KR annual (Serge VIDAL) 8. Re: KR annual (Jeff Scott) 9. Vibration (Martindale Family) 10. Re: Fuel $ (terry jones) 11. Re: Fuel $ (larry flesner) 12. prop position (larry flesner) 13. Re: Vibration (larry flesner) 14. Re: Fuel $ (larry severson) 15. Re: Fuel $ (Randy Smith ) 16. Re: Vibration (Linda Warner) 17. Re: Fuel $ (Ron Eason) 18. Taxes (Dan Heath) 19. Fuel - ENOUGH (Mark Jones) 20. One more small step (Dan Heath) 21. Re: Fuel - ENOUGH (Dan Heath) 22. Re: One more small step (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 23. Latches (Mark Jones) 24. Re: Latches (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 07:18:18 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> KR annual To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c4f153$abc76e90$d064a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry F = .... and had the prop off to rotate one bolt hole ++++++++++++++++++++++ Why Larry? Easier hand starting is all I can think of? Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:17:55 +0100 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : KR> Control surface failure. To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Harold, Would you mind if I translate that piece in French and have it published in the local amateur aviation magazines? Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France "haroldwoods" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-01-01 22:22 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-01-01 22:23 Pour : cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Control surface failure. Eduardo wants to know how I got down from 5000 feet. Well here goes. The object of that exercise was to test for power stalls. I also wanted to check it out for a wing drop on a violent stall. This was at about 35 hours into the testing.Up to about this time you could never let go of the stick because it would roll left.We found that when the wing was bolted onto the fuselage, it had hung up on the left side. and did not come down properly. This had twisted one wing. We were able to get the wing into a new and correct position.The question was would it still roll left? While I was at 5000 feet the mild stalls indicated there now was no roll on the stall. That was why I decided to do a violent power stall. I zoomed up to somewhere between 60 or 70 degrees, chopped the power and pulled back very hard on the stick.The Jodel has a peculiar 2 stick system. Provision had been made for two sticks but only one was installed on the pilot's side . A horizontal tube interconnected the two sticks. The passenger side at this moment in time was only an empt y elbow pointing upwards. In the future the passenger stick would be inserted into the elbow. When the pilot's stick broke off at the floor level, all that remained was the horizontal extension with the empty elbow on it. The plane picked up speed in its vertical dive. I was over Mud Lake and could see the pads of bull rushes getting bigger.I pulled the trim tab to nose up but it was stuck. The plane has arbitrarily been red lined somewhere around 145 mph. It was now passing 180 mph. I tried to reach over the back seat to get at the elevator controllable but the floor in the baggage compartment prevented this. Then I noticed that the bull rushes were now moving down past the nose. The very high lift generated by the high speed was causing the plane to "climb". At 2000 feet it was level and starting to climb. At 4500 feet it stalled, again no fall off on the wings. As it stalled I applied full throttle, flattening the stall. Then power off and down we went again. It was a milder repetition this time . There were 3 roller-coaster dives. I was able to get it level at about 4000 feet. It flew perfectly level.I then inspected the break. I reasoned that if I could place the stick alongside the passengers horizontal portion and tie it to the elbow , I might regain control. In the luggage compartment was a screw driver. It was far too sloppy when set into the elbow. I got the yellow pencil from the log book, broke it into 3 pieces, placed them in the elbow and pushed the screw driver in between. It was much stiffer now.I took off my belt from my trousers, released my shoulder harness got my head down under the dash and proceed to wrap the belt around the stick and the horizontal tube.It was at this time that I realized the engine was revving up. I glanced over the panel in time to see the horizon vertical on the nose. It had rolled over and was nosing down into another dive. I grabbed the elbow and lifted it. This stopped to roll. By pulling back on the screwdriver I got it level again. I then took out the shoe laces from my shoes and laced the screwdriver and the broken stick together.This produced another roll over and dive but it was now much easier to control. This was a day which was sunny, no wind, no bumps. Just a perfect day. No traffic around our small airport. I reduced speed to 65 mph and tried gentle turns. It was good in roll but sloppy in pitch. A long 5 mile approach was made .A gentle decent rate was controlled by throttle.The approach took us over the tree tops , over a bay, over the far shore , over the fence and onto the grass runway for a painted on landing. Cut the throttle, turn off to my parking spot and stop. I sure was glad to get down in one piece. In 3 days the controls had been fixed and the plane inspected for poor welds. I took it up and it flew like an angel. I think that there was one riding on my shoulder that eventful day. The moral of this tale seems to be: 1) get good welds . 2) install a trim tab that works over all speed ranges. 3) ensure that the plane will fly level without touching the stick at normal glide speed. 4) get a guardian angel and always fly with her. Sorry that this got so long winded. Harold Woods Orillia,ON. Can. harold woods@rogers.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:29:20 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Grove gear To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41D92C90.000008.03724@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The grove gear can be ordered streamlined and with the hydraulic galleys pre drilled in the leg. No glassing is required as it is an aluminum gear. The only glass work that you will need to do is the fairing of it into the fuselage bottom. I think it is the most simple gear installation available. I have done both the Diehl and Grove. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- >I know how long it takes to retrofit a retract gear KR with Diehl gear. >Can >anyone give me an idea on how long it takes to put on a set of Grove >gear? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 08:13:10 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> KR annual To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050103081310.0081fb30@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:18 AM 1/3/05 +0200, you wrote: >Larry F = .... and had the prop off to rotate one bolt hole >++++++++++++++++++++++ >Why Larry? >Easier hand starting is all I can think of? >Steve J> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That too, but the main reason was that I had a very slight vibration in the 0-200 and someone suggested putting the prop horizontal with #1 piston at top dead center. I was off one bolt hole. After I changed it the engine seems to be smoother. Go figure......... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:14:00 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> KR annual To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050103.091455.28913.160841@webmail01.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain That is actually the correct indexing of a two blade prop for either a 4 or 6 cyl engine. It places the propellor in the same rotational plane as the crank on #1 cyl, which would also be in the same rotational plane as the last cyl, whether it is #4 on a 4 cyl or #6 on a 6 cyl, in other words, the front and back of the crank. On a 4 cyl, the prop is then in the same rotational plane as all 4 crank throws. I have used that technique to fix prop vibration problems on 4 and 6 cyl engines with both wood and metal props. Usually, the prop balance and tracking are not quite perfect and the same is true for the engine. Once the prop is indexed correctly, changing the prop 180 degrees can also make a difference in vibration. Once you find the position the prop runs smoothest on that particular engine, mark it and always re-install with the same indexing. -Jeff -- larry flesner wrote: At 07:18 AM 1/3/05 +0200, you wrote: >Larry F = .... and had the prop off to rotate one bolt hole >++++++++++++++++++++++ >Why Larry? >Easier hand starting is all I can think of? >Steve J> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That too, but the main reason was that I had a very slight vibration in the 0-200 and someone suggested putting the prop horizontal with #1 piston at top dead center. I was off one bolt hole. After I changed it the engine seems to be smoother. Go figure......... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:56:01 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> N Number req for Registration To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Dan is there an email or mail address requesting the forms for the N number ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:57:20 +0100 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> KR annual To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's all fine, except if you don't have a starter motor, in which case you have to set your prop to "kick" right when you swing the prop. I found that to be fairly critical, but I have no clue which angle is best. When I changed my engine from a 2.0 liter VW to a 2.4 liter VW, I replicated the same offset angle between the prop and the crank (whatever that was, can't remember), only to find that it would not work well. So, I proceeded by trial and error (rotate one bolt left, then two bolts right) and chose the position that seemed to work best. Oddly enough, I found out that for a difficult start (hot engine, typically) there is only one camshaft position that will work fine. That is, one blade and not the other, and then, only every second turn. Go figure... Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France "Jeff Scott" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-01-03 18:14 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-01-03 18:16 Pour : krnet@mylist.net cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> KR annual That is actually the correct indexing of a two blade prop for either a 4 or 6 cyl engine. It places the propellor in the same rotational plane as the crank on #1 cyl, which would also be in the same rotational plane as the last cyl, whether it is #4 on a 4 cyl or #6 on a 6 cyl, in other words, the front and back of the crank. On a 4 cyl, the prop is then in the same rotational plane as all 4 crank throws. I have used that technique to fix prop vibration problems on 4 and 6 cyl engines with both wood and metal props. Usually, the prop balance and tracking are not quite perfect and the same is true for the engine. Once the prop is indexed correctly, changing the prop 180 degrees can also make a difference in vibration. Once you find the position the prop runs smoothest on that particular engine, mark it and always re-install with the same indexing. -Jeff _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:28:51 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> KR annual To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050103.112934.27788.164704@webmail02.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Coincidentally, that would be the same position where the prop comes up against compression for propping it just as you start on the down stroke with the blade. TDC would be horizontal with an impulse coupled magneto firing roughly 5 - 10 degrees past horizontal (or TDC). The nose of a KR is so low that they can sometimes be difficult to hand prop with the prop indexed with #1, but on most aircraft, it is a perfect fit. -Jeff -- "Serge VIDAL" wrote: That's all fine, except if you don't have a starter motor, in which case you have to set your prop to "kick" right when you swing the prop. I found that to be fairly critical, but I have no clue which angle is best. When I changed my engine from a 2.0 liter VW to a 2.4 liter VW, I replicated the same offset angle between the prop and the crank (whatever that was, can't remember), only to find that it would not work well. So, I proceeded by trial and error (rotate one bolt left, then two bolts right) and chose the position that seemed to work best. Oddly enough, I found out that for a difficult start (hot engine, typically) there is only one camshaft position that will work fine. That is, one blade and not the other, and then, only every second turn. Go figure... Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France "Jeff Scott" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-01-03 18:14 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-01-03 18:16 Pour : krnet@mylist.net cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> KR annual That is actually the correct indexing of a two blade prop for either a 4 or 6 cyl engine. It places the propellor in the same rotational plane as the crank on #1 cyl, which would also be in the same rotational plane as the last cyl, whether it is #4 on a 4 cyl or #6 on a 6 cyl, in other words, the front and back of the crank. On a 4 cyl, the prop is then in the same rotational plane as all 4 crank throws. I have used that technique to fix prop vibration problems on 4 and 6 cyl engines with both wood and metal props. Usually, the prop balance and tracking are not quite perfect and the same is true for the engine. Once the prop is indexed correctly, changing the prop 180 degrees can also make a difference in vibration. Once you find the position the prop runs smoothest on that particular engine, mark it and always re-install with the same indexing. -Jeff _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:10:44 +1100 From: "Martindale Family" Subject: KR> Vibration To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c4f1d8$b0e2cca0$a74aecdc@athlon2400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I found on my O-360 F1A6 (Cutlass)Lycoming that one prop mounting lug was a slightly larger diameter than all the others thus making relocation of the prop impossible. This engine is counterweighted and maybe the lug is oversized to ensure the prop always goes in the most balanced position. It was annoying because the blade finished up low down where you couldn't pull it through in the event of a flat battery. John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjanet@optusnet.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:17:18 +0000 From: terry jones Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ To: KRnet Message-ID: <41D9C46E.1060204@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed ( All amounts in US dollars as converted at today's rate) Well, I've just done a check here in the UK, and the average price for Avgas is $2.10 per LITRE... ordinary unleaded auto petrol (sorry, gas) cost me today at our local supermarket $1.58 a litre. It cost me $92.20 to fill my car this afternoon. yep, we pay through the nose in tax for almost everything here. 20 cigarettes will take about $8.50 out of the flying fund for every 20 you buy. A reasonable bottle of Scotch Whisky well set you back over $22.00.(And we make it here) With taxes like this it's not surprising to see people moaning about the prices of everything, and I mean EVERYTHING over here. At the flying club I visit, albeit not as often as I would wish now I am retired, an hour in a Cessna 152 will cost over $180. A belated happy new year to one and all, and all that you wish for yourselves in 2005 Terry Jones, disgruntled of the UK..... > > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:04:20 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050103170420.008242b0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >A reasonable bottle of Scotch Whisky well set you back over $22.00.(And >we make it here) >Terry Jones, disgruntled of the UK..... >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'd guess your personal fuel burn on Scotch Whisky is less than the petro burn of the Cessna. Remind your better half that it's cheaper to stay home and get plastered then to go to the airport! :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:06:32 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> prop position To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050103170632.00827100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jeff Scott was the one that originally suggested I rotate the prop to his recommended setting. Thanks Jeff....... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:09:07 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Vibration To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050103170907.00828a30@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:10 AM 1/4/05 +1100, you wrote: >I found on my O-360 F1A6 (Cutlass)Lycoming that one prop mounting lug was a slightly larger diameter than all the others thus making relocation of the prop impossible. >John ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My engine / prop has the same size lugs at all locations. Your "certified" engine /prop combo is apparently fixed, probably for balance and/or vibration reasons. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:43:57 -0800 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20050103154319.0210b928@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >At the flying club I visit, albeit not as often as I would wish now I am >retired, an hour in a Cessna 152 will cost over $180. I can't think of a better reason to have a KR2! Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:11:02 -0600 From: "Randy Smith " Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002c01c4f1f1$e04e80b0$9af97444@home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Taxes are how the Government pays the bills and you all have more government support ----- Original Message ----- From: "terry jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ >( All amounts in US dollars as converted at today's rate) > > Well, I've just done a check here in the UK, and the average price for > Avgas is $2.10 per LITRE... ordinary unleaded auto petrol (sorry, gas) > cost me today at our local supermarket $1.58 a litre. It cost me $92.20 > to fill my car this afternoon. > yep, we pay through the nose in tax for almost everything here. > 20 cigarettes will take about $8.50 out of the flying fund for every 20 > you buy. > A reasonable bottle of Scotch Whisky well set you back over $22.00.(And > we make it here) > > With taxes like this it's not surprising to see people moaning about the > prices of everything, and I mean EVERYTHING over here. > At the flying club I visit, albeit not as often as I would wish now I am > retired, an hour in a Cessna 152 will cost over $180. > > A belated happy new year to one and all, and all that you wish for > yourselves in 2005 > > Terry Jones, disgruntled of the UK..... > >> >> > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:35:47 -0500 From: jaslkw@webtv.net (Linda Warner) Subject: Re: KR> Vibration To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <9686-41D9E4E3-3082@storefull-3138.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII The major reason that the Lycoming has one lug larger than the rest is to index the hub. This is because the timing marks are stamped on the hub and line up with a punch mark on the starter housing. John Sickafoose Naples, Fl. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:37:41 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000c01c4f1f5$99f29530$6601a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I think I remember reading about a revolution some 200 years ago or so because of high taxes. KRron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Smith " To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ > Taxes are how the Government pays the bills and you all have more > government > support > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "terry jones" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel $ > > >>( All amounts in US dollars as converted at today's rate) >> >> Well, I've just done a check here in the UK, and the average price for >> Avgas is $2.10 per LITRE... ordinary unleaded auto petrol (sorry, gas) >> cost me today at our local supermarket $1.58 a litre. It cost me $92.20 >> to fill my car this afternoon. >> yep, we pay through the nose in tax for almost everything here. >> 20 cigarettes will take about $8.50 out of the flying fund for every 20 >> you buy. >> A reasonable bottle of Scotch Whisky well set you back over $22.00.(And >> we make it here) >> >> With taxes like this it's not surprising to see people moaning about the >> prices of everything, and I mean EVERYTHING over here. >> At the flying club I visit, albeit not as often as I would wish now I am >> retired, an hour in a Cessna 152 will cost over $180. >> >> A belated happy new year to one and all, and all that you wish for >> yourselves in 2005 >> >> Terry Jones, disgruntled of the UK..... >> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:08:12 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Taxes To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41D9EC7C.000003.03816@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Fuel Prices is pushing it, but I think Taxes is taking it over the edge. Please remember that this is the KR net. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:13:44 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Fuel - ENOUGH To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <003b01c4f1fa$ad001bc0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, we all know it takes fuel to fly a KR. We all know it cost $$$$ to buy fuel. We all know that this is a BUILDING FORUM....so let's get back to talking about how to build a KR. Please Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:13:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> One more small step To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41D9EDC0.000007.03816@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Today, I finally got my stick buttons wired. I hooked up the battery and turned on all the switches. The elec turn coordinator started whining. I pushed the down trim button and the tab responded, I pushed the up button and again the tab responded appropriately. All those wires and it always amazes me when things work as designed. Now I have to figure out how to get the PTT to control the Sportys hand held. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:15:00 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel - ENOUGH To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41D9EE14.000009.03816@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The net moms strike again. What coordination. You would think we planned it that way. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 01/03/05 20:12:52 To: KR Net Subject: KR> Fuel - ENOUGH OK, we all know it takes fuel to fly a KR. We all know it cost $$$$ to buy fuel. We all know that this is a BUILDING FORUM....so let's get back to talking about how to build a KR. Please Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:27:31 -0600 From: Subject: Re: KR> One more small step To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003a01c4f1fc$905727a0$2b689445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Congratulations, Dan.It is fun and reassuring when gadgets work like they are supposed to. Thanks, Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: KR> One more small step > Today, I finally got my stick buttons wired. I hooked up the battery and > turned on all the switches. The elec turn coordinator started whining. I > pushed the down trim button and the tab responded, I pushed the up button > and again the tab responded appropriately. All those wires and it always > amazes me when things work as designed. Now I have to figure out how to > get > the PTT to control the Sportys hand held. > > > ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:15:22 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Latches To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001401c4f203$499769e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Doug, I received the latches today. Thanks. What is your mailing address? The label on the envelope was damaged and I was not able to read your address. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:18:58 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Latches To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002b01c4f203$c566f860$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry guys, I goofed, that was a private e-mail to Doug. Please do not flame me. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 3 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================