From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 328 Date: 8/27/2005 9:00:15 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: KR fly in (wilder_jeff Wilder) 2. Re: KR fly in (Mark Langford) 3. Re: Finally Home from trip! (Orma) 4. Re: Start build from the wings (Don Chisholm) 5. wings first (Don Chisholm) 6. Re: Start build from the wings (Barry Kruyssen) 7. Re: Start build from the wings (Bob Glidden) 8. Boats at the Gathering (Richard and Donya Rankin) 9. Re: Boats at the Gathering (Bob Glidden) 10. Re: Thanks (Ray Fuenzalida) 11. Re: Boats at the Gathering (Mark Jones) 12. Hurricane (Brant Hollensbe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:26:06 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ahhh!!... He11... count me in.. I wish I could fly out my bird is a long way away from getting kicked out of her nest. I'll try to be Fri afternoon... I have a brother in Kansas City.. I can hold over there Thursday night. Any chance I could bum a ride around the partern from someone... I'd love to find out what I'm in for! ( Student pilot 25 hours and adding ) -Jeff >From: "Dan Heath" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: >Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in >Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:48:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by >mc1-f10.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:48:15 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E96ev-0006LS-Ca; Sat, 27 Aug >2005 12:48:09 -0700 >Received: from ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net ([166.102.165.166])by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E96ee-0006LN-0ffor >krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:47:52 -0700 >Received: from danhomecomputer ([67.141.242.213])by >ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net with SMTPid ><20050827194750.WFFR29274.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@danhomecomputer>for >; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:47:50 -0500 >X-Message-Info: HQbIehuYceT5JWOHgbswYvnjZIimtt866iUQnMu834Q= >X-Mailer: IncrediMail (4002031) >References: <004401c5ab3d$fc11b1e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> >X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2005 19:48:15.0314 (UTC) >FILETIME=[43C49320:01C5AB40] > >commit yourself man, commit yourself. Get there by plane, train, car, >or bus. Walk if you have to , but get there. You will regret it for >another year if you don't. > >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering >See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a >time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building >has expired. >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC >-------Original Message------- > >From: Mark Jones >Date: 08/27/05 15:29:37 >To: KRnet >Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in > >You need to be 100% committed. > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Wales, WI USA >E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" >To: >Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:06 PM >Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in > > > > I am bout 90% commited to going... I will be driving out from > > Denver, >Co.... > > > > is there anyone that would be interested in going with me? I really >dont > > know if I want to drive it alone... > > > > -Jeff > > > > > > > > >From: "Brian Kraut" > > >Reply-To: KRnet > > >To: "KRnet" > > >Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in > > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:44:36 -0400 > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by >MC8-F29.hotmail.com > > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:44:51 > > >-0700 > > >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by > > >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E8pkU-000Ga1-MR; Fri, 26 >Aug > > >2005 18:44:49 -0700 > > >Received: from mail.engalt.com ([65.77.234.50])by > > >lizard.esosoft.net >with > > >esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8pkO-000GZr-Dlfor krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 26 > > >Aug >2005 > > >18:44:44 -0700 > > >Received: from bknotebook [64.200.230.172] by >mail.engalt.com(SMTPD32-8.15) > > >id A6FE723009A; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:50:54 -0400 > > >X-Message-Info: TiNwL5K19MG2qqXN0RY/kdx+OaYNxX9Zy4tcPKZnydU= > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 > > >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net > > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 > > >Precedence: list > > >List-Id: KRnet > > >List-Unsubscribe: > > > >, >ubject >=unsubscribe> > > >List-Archive: > > >List-Post: > > >List-Help: > > >List-Subscribe: > > > >, >ubject >=subscribe> > > >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > > >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2005 01:44:51.0880 (UTC) > > >FILETIME=[EAB3B280:01C5AAA8] > > > > > >Not only acceptable, but a whole lot of fun! > > > > > >Brian Kraut > > >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > > >www.engalt.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net > >mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net">krnet-bounces@mylist.net >[mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > > >Behalf Of wilder_jeff Wilder > > >Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:53 PM > > >To: krnet@mylist.net > > >Subject: KR> KR fly in > > > > > > > > > > > >Is there a count for the amount of people that are going to camp > > >out there?.. I thought that I read that camping out was an > > >accetable >activity > > > > > > > > >I have about 900 miles to drive to get there.. and thought it to be > > >fun >if > > >I > > >go, I can camp somewhere rather then the hotel. > > > > > >-Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > > >Search the KRnet Archives at > > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > > >Search the KRnet Archives at > > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:33:49 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <045a01c5ab46$a17cfab0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" jeff_wilder wrote: > Any chance I could bum a ride around the partern from someone... I'd > love to > find out what I'm in for! Are you crazy? That's half of what the Gathering is all about! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:28:19 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Finally Home from trip! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010701c5ab4e$3ff22600$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sounds like a great adventure, not just a trip. Say Hi to you dad for me. Now that you are back, take a look at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm. Send me some info on your plane. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:31:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Chisholm Subject: Re: KR> Start build from the wings To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050827223131.58991.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Dubi; my name is Don Chisholm I live in Oshawa Ontario Canada I'm posting this to you off line because the KR experts on line seem to disagree with me about building wings first and it doesn't seem to make any difference that I'm building my second KR and have extsnsive aircraft experience but when I built my KR1 I found that building the airplane full planform to be a pain in the butt especially when it came time to build the outer wing panels and thought there had to be a better way so I built my second wing set in roll over jig made from angle iron and found that it was much easier to build my outer wing panels . also I shaped my foam cores from extruded polystyrene insulation foam Varieze style which is readily available from building supply houses is cheaper than ridgid polyurethane and has a superior structural value and urethane foam is nasty to shape and easy to screw up with when you 're shaping your cores. the idea is to mount your center section spar set in a jig to maintain alignment and to be able to fit your fuselage into the jig to be able mount the center spars to the fuselage this might sound complicated but think about it, eventually the light bulb will go on in your brain. I'd never build another KR any other way Don C chizmsupholstery@rogers.com Dubi Gefen wrote: Hello KRnet I made decision to start build the aircraft from the wings first and then continue to fuselage. Are there any builder thinking there can be problem with this process steps? Dubi Gefen. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> wings first To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050827223753.48965.qmail@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 oops pushed the wrong button on my last note ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:43:58 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Start build from the wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012501c5ab58$d15cd180$5600a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry to tell you Don, but you did post to the KRNet and I'm glad you did. Have you got photos of your jig or can you please describ it in more detail as I cannot get a mental picture from you email below. There are always multiple was to do a job, and most are effective. I'm looking for what is effecient (for me). I intend to build a KR2S from scratch at sometime as I only built mine from the firewall forward. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Chisholm To: KRnet Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: Re: KR> Start build from the wings Hi Dubi; my name is Don Chisholm I live in Oshawa Ontario Canada I'm posting this to you off line because the KR experts on line seem to disagree with me about building wings first and it doesn't seem to make any difference that I'm building my second KR and have extsnsive aircraft experience but when I built my KR1 I found that building the airplane full planform to be a pain in the butt especially when it came time to build the outer wing panels and thought there had to be a better way so I built my second wing set in roll over jig made from angle iron and found that it was much easier to build my outer wing panels . also I shaped my foam cores from extruded polystyrene insulation foam Varieze style which is readily available from building supply houses is cheaper than ridgid polyurethane and has a superior structural value and urethane foam is nasty to shape and easy to screw up with when you 're shaping your cores. the idea is to mount your center section spar set in a jig to maintain alignment and to be able to fit your fuselage into the jig to be able mount the center spars to the fuselage this might sound complicated but think about it, eventually the light bulb will go on in your brain. I'd never build another KR any other way Don C chizmsupholstery@rogers.com Dubi Gefen wrote: Hello KRnet I made decision to start build the aircraft from the wings first and then continue to fuselage. Are there any builder thinking there can be problem with this process steps? Dubi Gefen. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:29:48 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Start build from the wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002f01c5ab6f$fac2b0f0$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Don I know several people that have built their wings first so they can hang them out of the way till they are needed.If you have plenty of room to do this it should work great.If you do not have a lot of room you will find yourself moving them out of your way a lot or even damaging one if you are not careful.Good luck and I would love to have more details and maybe even some pictures if possible.Happy building...Bob Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:33:38 -0500 From: "Richard and Donya Rankin" Subject: KR> Boats at the Gathering To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <20050828013337.QSLJ15295.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@VANGUARD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Are there typically KR2 boats for sale at the Gathering? Anyone know of any boats that are likely to be trailered there? If not, I should probably snag Virg's boat... I'm either buying one in September or building from scratch! See you in just 12 days, Thursday afternoon, rootbeer money in hand... and Mark, I'm 100% committed. Look forward to meeting all of you. Richard Rankin Tulsa, OK EAA 688891 richardanddonya (at) cox (dot) net ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:38:15 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Boats at the Gathering To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003901c5ab71$293ec1c0$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Richard Last year I think there was three or maybe even four that showed up and atleast two of them were forsale.I think Glenda bought one and even bought the trailer.There is a guy in Vincennes,Indiana that is selling one and may bring it to the gathering.hope this helps..Bob Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> Thanks To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050828021055.44855.qmail@web31501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Very Nice. The main thing we all forget is how young these people are and how fast the reality of service like this makes them grow up. I am the assistant scoutmaster of B.S.A. Troop 244. Less than 2 years ago we had a young Eagle Scout in our troop. His nickname is "Bigfoot" because he is 6'4". When he turned 18 he went straight into the Marine Corps and is already back from his year in Iraq. He would send emails back from Iraq to let all the other guys in the troop know how things really were, even making fun of the way guys who weren't on the front lines reacted. That kind of almost casual bravery is incomprehensible to most of us. It is amazing the way this young man changed throughout that time from a large boy to a full fledged Marine. When we think of professional soldiers we always think of grown men and women. In reality they are mostly kids. If anything we should be even prouder of them. Ray New Orleans --- Mark Jones wrote: > It is still Friday and all goes on Friday. This has > nothing to do with KR's > or Corvairs....or does it? Without these guys we > could not live our dream. I > do not normally post this stuff but this one is > worth seeing. > http://www.clermontyellow.accountsupport.com/flash/UntilThen.swf > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:30:17 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Boats at the Gathering To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009e01c5ab78$6e4a1060$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I had a fellow e-mail me and ask if I thought his boat would sell at the gathering if he trailored it there. I told him the odds were it would sell. I do not know for sure but I would be willing to bet there will be some there for sale. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Donya Rankin" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: KR> Boats at the Gathering > Are there typically KR2 boats for sale at the Gathering? Anyone know > of any > boats that are likely to be trailered there? > > If not, I should probably snag Virg's boat... I'm either buying one in > September or building from scratch! > > See you in just 12 days, Thursday afternoon, rootbeer money in hand... > and Mark, I'm 100% committed. Look forward to meeting all of you. > > Richard Rankin > Tulsa, OK > EAA 688891 > richardanddonya (at) cox (dot) net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:35:32 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: KR> Hurricane To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000401c5ab79$299facd0$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ray, Brian and any other netters that may lie in harms way. We all hope you have your family and KR in a safe spot in case hurricane Katrina decides to come calling. I think I speak for all of the KR family that when one of the family gets hurt....we all hurt. Good luck guys, we will be seeing you at the Gathering in??????? . How many days is it, till we all YeeeHaa together? Brant Hollensbe DSM ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 328 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================