From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 330 Date: 8/28/2005 8:30:08 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Carb Heat (Bob Glidden) 2. Re: Gathering fire (Mark Jones) 3. Re: GATHERING (Brant Hollensbe) 4. Re: GATHERING (Mark Jones) 5. Re: Carb Heat (w.higdon9604@comcast.net) 6. Re: Gathering fire (Joseph H Horton) 7. Re: GATHERING (Joseph H Horton) 8. Re: GATHERING (Mark Jones) 9. Re: Carb Heat (Dan Heath) 10. Re: Carb Heat (Barry Kruyssen) 11. KMNN Today - KMVN Next (Kenneth B. Jones) 12. Re: Carb Heat (Mark Jones) 13. Re: Gathering fire (Bob Glidden) 14. Re: KMNN Today - KMVN Next (Bob Glidden) 15. Re: Thanks (JAMES FERRIS) 16. Re: Gathering fire (Mark Jones) 17. KR netters enterrain at Bachelorett Party (Brant Hollensbe) 18. Re: Gathering fire (Bob Glidden) 19. Gathering wood (Bob Glidden) 20. How many KR's (Orma) 21. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (JAMES FERRIS) 22. Re: Thanks (Mikensandystff@aol.com) 23. KR Gathering Plane List (Mark Jones) 24. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (larry flesner) 25. Gathering fire (larry flesner) 26. gathering fishing (Jumpnkd@aol.com) 27. Re: Carb Heat (larry flesner) 28. RE: Gathering wood (wilder_jeff Wilder) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:22:29 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00a201c5ac2f$bde1cf20$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Very nice Dan.... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:30:50 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009901c5ac30$e8f67200$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Glidden" I don't think Mark J can remember how many days are left,he has not reminded us lately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the excitement is taking over. My wife says I have KR on the brain. She has been feeding me medicine for it but I just can't seem to shake it. The only cure I know of is to be there in 11 DAYS.... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:33:54 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000401c5ac31$57993300$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ronda miss free root beer with a bunch of men???? You don't know her very well do you. And please tell her I was NOT part of the Holiday Inn bachelorett party last year!!!!! For those of you have not been to a gathering yet.......you have not lived until you hear and see the Sanding Song at the banquet!!!!!!!! Brant Hollensbe Bhollensbe@mchsi.com We're flying to the gathering and still got room in the plane for a couple more. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:57:23 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b101c5ac34$9de90c60$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That was two years ago in Red Oak....it was a good one.... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brant Hollensbe" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING > Ronda miss free root beer with a bunch of men???? You don't know her > very well do you. > > And please tell her I was NOT part of the Holiday Inn bachelorett > party last > year!!!!! > > For those of you have not been to a gathering yet.......you have not > lived until you hear and see the Sanding Song at the banquet!!!!!!!! > > Brant Hollensbe > Bhollensbe@mchsi.com > We're flying to the gathering and still got room in the plane for a > couple more. > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:56:04 +0000 From: w.higdon9604@comcast.net Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat To: KRnet Message-ID: <082920050056.1241.43125D240004726E000004D92206424613CBCFC0C702010B090708D299@comcast.net> Dan, I'd be careful, more than one engine has swallowed bits of spring, when some one tried this trick. You can read about the problems in Tony B's writings. (IIRC it's in Firewall Forward) Bill Higdon > If you are into carb heat muffs, I just modified ours to get more heat > out of it. > > The first pic at http://kr-builder.org/FirewallForward/index.html > click on the pic for a large view. > > 1 week and 3 days and I will, > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:57:14 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050828.210041.-519301.1.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bob, I may be able to find a fire ring from an old tractor tire rim somewhere. Planning on driving my work truck so I will have room. I will most likely arrive on Friday morning. Joe On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:00:08 -0500 "Bob Glidden" writes: > If anyone else that is driving and coming on Thursday or Friday can > get their hand on a metal box or a 55 gal drum cut down,it would be > nice so we can have fire.We have the little grill that we used last > year,but would be nice to have a bigger one everyone can get > around.Nights around this part of the world are starting to cool > off.Email me off list if you think you can come up with one.I don't > think Mark J can remember how many days are left,he has not reminded > us lately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Bob Glidden > Eminence,Indiana > KR2S N181FW (building) > Corvair 110 > glidden@ccrtc.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:09:13 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050828.211651.-519301.2.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Come on now -- You don't remember anything. Joe On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:57:23 -0500 "Mark Jones" writes: > That was two years ago in Red Oak....it was a good one.... > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brant Hollensbe" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING > > > > Ronda miss free root beer with a bunch of men???? You don't know > her very > > well do you. > > > > And please tell her I was NOT part of the Holiday Inn bachelorett > party > last > > year!!!!! > > > > For those of you have not been to a gathering yet.......you have > not lived > > until you hear and see the Sanding Song at the banquet!!!!!!!! > > > > Brant Hollensbe > > Bhollensbe@mchsi.com > > We're flying to the gathering and still got room in the plane for > a couple > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:29:23 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c301c5ac39$1677f200$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey Joe, you flying that KR to the Gathering? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph H Horton" To: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING > Come on now -- You don't remember anything. > Joe > On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:57:23 -0500 "Mark Jones" > writes: > > That was two years ago in Red Oak....it was a good one.... > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brant Hollensbe" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:33 PM > > Subject: Re: KR> GATHERING > > > > > > > Ronda miss free root beer with a bunch of men???? You don't know > > her very > > > well do you. > > > > > > And please tell her I was NOT part of the Holiday Inn bachelorett > > party > > last > > > year!!!!! > > > > > > For those of you have not been to a gathering yet.......you have > > not lived > > > until you hear and see the Sanding Song at the banquet!!!!!!!! > > > > > > Brant Hollensbe > > > Bhollensbe@mchsi.com > > > We're flying to the gathering and still got room in the plane for > > a couple > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:28:24 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat To: Message-ID: <431264B8.000001.02464@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How could spring possibly get in the engine from there? I will read what Tony has to say about it, but this is exactly what I did on my first KR, and it is what Steve Bennett does also. I think Mark L. has done it also. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- I'd be careful, more than one engine has swallowed bits of spring, when some one tried this trick. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:32:22 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <024b01c5ac39$822dcc40$5600a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And I intend to do it on mine. But I have an airfilter between the hot box and the carby. I can see how if a spring broke, with heat and vibration, that it could get sucked into the engine if there was not an airfilter in the system. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Heath To: krnet@mylist.net Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:28 AM Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat How could spring possibly get in the engine from there? I will read what Tony has to say about it, but this is exactly what I did on my first KR, and it is what Steve Bennett does also. I think Mark L. has done it also. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- I'd be careful, more than one engine has swallowed bits of spring, when some one tried this trick. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:35:38 -0400 From: "Kenneth B. Jones" Subject: KR> KMNN Today - KMVN Next To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <017201c5ac39$f65005c0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> I flew to KMNN (Marion, OH) today to attend the MERFI (Mid-Eastern Regional Fly-In.) It was beautiful weather and a pleasent flight both directions, only 100 nautical miles from KHAO. I didn't see any other KR's there today, but there were several owners and builders. I got lots of positive comments about the Porkopolis Flying Pig. I think they were all because she', "Flying", not because she's a "Pig". I flew up with an RV-9 so I had to fly at reduced power. (Oops, I think I got that backwards.) This was the first time I have been there, but it's a great fly-in. Probably less than 10% of the planes there were RV's. It's held each year. I'd recommend it to anyone close enough to attend. Ken Jones, kenbjones@cinci.rr.com Sharonville, OH N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:39:34 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00cb01c5ac3a$82840d20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The only way a piece could possibly get in is if the spring were to crystallize due to heat and start breaking small pieces off. This could be sucked in when you open the carb heat. And if your carb heat enters the air box behind the filter then it could conceivably make it's way into the engine. If your carb heat enters the air box pre filter, there is no problem. Personally, I would not worry about it. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:28 PM Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat > How could spring possibly get in the engine from there? I will read > what Tony has to say about it, but this is exactly what I did on my > first KR, and > it is what Steve Bennett does also. I think Mark L. has done it also. > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > I'd be careful, more than one engine has swallowed bits of spring, > when some one tried this trick. > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:36:55 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010101c5ac3a$23c9b730$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sounds great Joe.I'm going to put out a all call for wood now. Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:39:09 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> KMNN Today - KMVN Next To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010701c5ac3a$746e6640$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Ken I would have seen you there if I had not had to work.We were going to fly over in a 170A Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:38:39 -0400 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Thanks To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050829.213840.972.0.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hope you have your KR secured well, good luck and take care. Sincerely jim ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:43:17 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00db01c5ac3b$07c31300$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You ain't getting any wood from me....all the wood I will have with me will be in the form of an airplane. :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Glidden" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire > Sounds great Joe.I'm going to put out a all call for wood now. > > Bob Glidden > Eminence,Indiana > KR2S N181FW (building) > Corvair 110 > glidden@ccrtc.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:42:36 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: KR> KR netters enterrain at Bachelorett Party To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c5ac3a$eef261f0$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original What happens at a KR Gathering... stays at a KR Gathering! Come see for yourself. Brant Hollensbe DSM ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:43:03 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011c01c5ac3a$ff699f80$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original That will work!!!!!!!!!!! Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:43 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire > You ain't getting any wood from me....all the wood I will have with me > will > be in the form of an airplane. :-) > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Glidden" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Gathering fire > > >> Sounds great Joe.I'm going to put out a all call for wood now. >> >> Bob Glidden >> Eminence,Indiana >> KR2S N181FW (building) >> Corvair 110 >> glidden@ccrtc.com >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:42:30 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: KR> Gathering wood To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011201c5ac3a$ebad9730$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" O.K. guys I know these are not airplane related,but they are KR related.We need anybody that is driving into the gathering and has room to throw some logs into your car,trucks,vans whatever you are driving.Even if you only have room for one log it will help..... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:48:40 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: KR> How many KR's To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005401c5ac3b$c9525030$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Net Does anyone have an estimate of how many KR's have promised to show for the Gathering Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:47:46 -0400 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050829.214746.972.1.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you are concerened that you may be to big ? you can modifi it as Mark Jones said no two KR's are the same. I would add about a foot to the span on each side of the centet section, this would increase the area and the wing span and decrease the induced drag so it would clinb better. Jim ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:52:00 EDT From: Mikensandystff@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Thanks To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1aa.3d24b75f.3043c440@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ray, this is Mike Stafford in Denham Springs. You are supposed to be evacuated. Hope you remain dry. I've got my KR in the shop all nice and dry. I made more parts to mount my mains today before we lose electricity. The wife fussed and said that there were other things more important. I'm still trying to figure what they are. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:01:19 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> KR Gathering Plane List To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <010801c5ac3d$8cb3bfe0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark Jones Mark Langford Orma Robbins Ken Jones Bill Clapp Jim Faughn Steve Bennett Larry Flesner Joe Weber I know there are others... please add your name and forward back to the KR Net. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:40:17 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050828214017.00855210@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Facts: I am 6'1, 260lbs. Spending my >whole flying life in Cessnas I have always kept my >front seat weight below 400lbs, mainly because my lady >friends were always tiny. >Scott +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Scott, If you're not planning to lose any weight and plan on building a KR2S, it's going to be a single place airplane, regardless of the mods you make. My advise (I'm assuming you're looking for some honest input) is to rent a Cessna to fly your "lady friends" and build the 2S as a single place from the git-go. Look on the krnet.org site or Mark Langfords site for the KR100. Either go with KR100 plans if available or narrow down the KR2S to a single place. You could leave all other measurements the same such as the wing and tail section. Build it as light as possible, keep the fuselage shape wide until after the trailedge of the wing for less drag, put on some good farings, and I'd bet you could end up with a 180+mph rocket. The builder of the KR100 claimed 200+ at the Reno air races. My opinion is that if you weigh 260 pounds, there is no way to build a KR that will allow you to add a passanger of any size and keep the CG in the envelope. My KR2 has a 24" stretch with an 0-200 and came in at 765 empty. I weigh 200 pounds and have carried passangers up to approx 170 pounds. At those weights it performs similar to a C-150 in hot weather. It still handles good in the air but it is not the "rocket" I enjoy when flying solo. The weight doesn't hurt to much on the speed but the takeoff and climb is rather poor, 500fpm on a 90 degree day. My solo takeoff weight is generally in the 1050 to 1100 pound range. I'm using the stock KR2 wing with shorter tips so my wing is 8 inches shorter then stock. Every mod makes a difference. If after reading this a KR is still in your future, I'd say go for it. Given your experience I'd say you'd have no problems in the building part and the KR is one awesome little bird to fly. Just use one hand to hold on to reality while using the other to grab for the brass ring. :-) See you at the Gathering????????? Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:41:14 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Gathering fire To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050828214114.00852cf0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:36 PM 8/28/05 -0500, you wrote: >Sounds great Joe.I'm going to put out a all call for wood now. >Bob Glidden ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks to the airport manager, there will be wood for the fire at the site when you arrive. Just don't tear down the pavilon or burn the picnic tables if you run short of wood! :-) Larry Flesner - Gathering Host ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:50:42 EDT From: Jumpnkd@aol.com Subject: KR> gathering fishing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <90.64df1922.3043d202@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" rember to bring your fishing pole there are some big fish in that pond by the camp site. Bill White "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing" Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:55:15 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Carb Heat To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050828215515.007966a0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:27 PM 8/28/05 -0400, you wrote: >If you are into carb heat muffs, I just modified ours to get more heat out >of it. >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ There are many airplanes flying with a similar setup, including mine. My only suggestion would be to use a smaller, tighter wound spring to give better contact with the exhaust and more surface area to transfer the heat. A "screen door spring" from the hardware store works good if you stretch it out a bit. It has a rather small double loop attach at each end. I used heavy safety wire through those loops to secure the ends. Stretch the spring to approx 150 percent of its original size or there about. You can tell by looking when it's right. You can put several layers of spring on top of each other if you have the room and it looks like you do. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:29:14 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: RE: KR> Gathering wood To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I have a mini wagon... if I have room after the camping goods... I have some wood I can bring... -Jeff >From: "Bob Glidden" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: KR> Gathering wood >Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:42:30 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by mc11-f28.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:44:43 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E9YhX-0009Kr-KNfor >wilder_jeff@msn.com; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:44:43 -0700 >Received: from mail.ccrtc.com ([209.132.160.7] helo=ccrtc.com)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9YfS-00092b-6Dfor >krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:42:34 -0700 >Received: from ADMINISTRATOR [209.132.162.150] by ccrtc.com(SMTPD32-8.00) >id A8053728025A; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:42:29 -0500 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jH/AgdJ3e3oypyMMxbkpKjj1zlMUDGwxDU= >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 >X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn.com@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces+wilder_jeff=msn.com@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2005 01:44:43.0884 (UTC) >FILETIME=[3AC31AC0:01C5AC3B] > >O.K. guys I know these are not airplane related,but they are KR related.We >need anybody that is driving into the gathering and has room to throw some >logs into your car,trucks,vans whatever you are driving.Even if you only >have room for one log it will help..... > >Bob Glidden >Eminence,Indiana >KR2S N181FW (building) >Corvair 110 >glidden@ccrtc.com >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 330 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================