From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 332 Date: 8/29/2005 4:36:54 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Revised KR Gathgering Plane List (20) (Steve Eberhart) 2. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (JAMES FERRIS) 3. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (JAMES FERRIS) 4. RE: Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) (Mark Jones) 5. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (Jeff Scott) 6. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (3343V) 7. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (Mark Langford) 8. Re: plywood (Jeff Scott) 9. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (3343V) 10. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (Mark Langford) 11. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (3343V) 12. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 13. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (3343V) 14. RE: Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) (Ron Lee) 15. Gathering (Bob Unternaehrer) 16. hapi alternator rectifier (phil brookman) 17. Gathering plans (larry flesner) 18. Re: hapi alternator rectifier (Dan Heath) 19. Re: Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) (Mark Jones) 20. Re: Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) (Mark Jones) 21. Re: Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) (Mark Jones) 22. Re: Question for the experienced ones... :-) (Ron Smith) 23. Re: hapi alternator rectifier (Orma) 24. Plywood (rhartwig11@juno.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:20:28 -0500 From: Steve Eberhart Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathgering Plane List (20) To: KRnet Message-ID: <431335CC.4050503@newtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ron Lee wrote: > And a token RV-6A from Falcon, CO > > No longer purple! > > Ron Lee Hi Ron, Add another RV. I will be arriving in the right seat of Larry Helming's recently finished RV-7. Well, it at least has a little fiberglass on it :-) Should be there Friday and will be camping out. Steve Eberhart ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:22:30 -0400 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050830.122230.800.1.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Everyone knows inginears can't speell correctely, how could ewe knot know that? Jim ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:24:56 -0400 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050830.122456.800.2.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Both of those problems can be solved with a slight increase in wing area and aspect ratio. Jim ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:34:59 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C4425@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Guys, Not to discriminate, but this list is for KR's ONLY. We welcome all airplanes but if it is not a KR, it mat be treated like a red headed step child..... :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Steve Eberhart Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:20 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathgering Plane List (20) Ron Lee wrote: > And a token RV-6A from Falcon, CO > > No longer purple! > > Ron Lee Hi Ron, Add another RV. I will be arriving in the right seat of Larry Helming's recently finished RV-7. Well, it at least has a little fiberglass on it :-) Should be there Friday and will be camping out. Steve Eberhart _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:51:41 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050829.095256.19411.190510@webmail28.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain If you're thinking you can build a KR and have it perform reasonably at 1200#, that can be done as demonstrated by a number of flying KRs. If you think you're going to do it at 1400#, you probably should consider another design. Since I'm roughly the same size as the person that originally asked the question, I'll relate my perspective. I originally thought I was building a 2 seat plane. When it was nearing completion, I realized that for me, that was wishful thinking. Realisticly, I have a single seat plane that can occasionally take a small passenger provided that the wing tanks and baggage are empty. My KR is stretched 14" more than a stock KR-2, then used the KR-2S upper deck. With the Deihl wings, I think it comes up to 88 sq ft of wing area. My CG is well forward by design. It requires a minimum 120# pilot to get it within the front of the CG limits. I also flew the same loads in the plane when I was flying behind a run out C-85 from my home airport at 7200' ASL. Even with the C-85 I never found it to be a problem to climb to and cruise at 12,500'. It's a real treat on the rare occasion that I get to fly the plane down low where the engine can make HP. :o) -Jeff -- larry flesner wrote: I can't dispute Jeff's and Mark's replys (see below) but some additional info ought to be given for builders to consider. I'll let these gentleman correct me where I'm in error. Jeff's KR is stretched, I'm not sure how much, and his empty CG is at or near the very forward limit to start. He is flying a recently rebuilt 0-200 with C-85 pistons and probably is getting a reliable 110 hp. As I recall, he is flying on the longer wings such as the Diehl skins. Other than, as he mentioned, the standard size cockpit being a bit crowded, his KR probably performs well with 410#'s in the cockpit. My KR is running a tired 0-200 (2000 hour) on slightly less then stock wings. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:58:52 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <050c01c5acba$ef385c70$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original JAMES FERRIS wrote: > Both of those problems can be solved with a slight increase in wing > area and aspect ratio. That's my plan to get a KR1 to haul 250 pounds of me around. Another 18" on each tip, 12.5" behind the firewall, and 24.5" behind the wing, and 2 sq. ft. winglets. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:40:02 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c201c5acc0$afefe500$7f73a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Steve wrote: > each tip, 12.5" behind the firewall, and 24.5" behind the wing, I hope you're planning on a really light engine if you're going to add 12.5" behind the firewall (if you mean between main spar and firewall), or some other configuration that doesn't resemble a KR, because you'll have to add a bunch of lead in the tail to make it flyable otherwise. I'm sure you've thought this out and done the weight and balance math, but if not, now would be the time to do a reality check... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:25:03 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> plywood To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050829.092539.19411.190006@webmail28.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Reading the specs for Baltic Birch, it reads the same as Finnish Birch plywood. All of the plywood in my KR is Finnish Birch (fuselage skin, spar webbing, attach plates, etc). The first four photos from the 1998 KR gathering page show some of the interior of my KR. Note that all of the plywood is light colored Birch. Jeff Scott N1213W -- wrote: I checked the archives and only found two posts about Baltic Birch. Both of them favorable. Does anyone use this on their skins? This stuff is only $12.50 for a 50" x 50" X 1/8" Patrick Driscoll Saint Paul, MN patrick36@usfamily.net --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:18:27 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <052301c5acc6$104449a0$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark Langford wrote: > > I hope you're planning on a really light engine if you're going to add > 12.5" behind the firewall (if you mean between main spar and > firewall), or some other configuration that doesn't resemble a KR, > because you'll have to add a bunch of lead in the tail to make it > flyable otherwise. I'm sure you've thought this out and done the > weight and balance math, but if not, now would be the time to do a > reality check... Yup, there's some other things there, like my big backside sitting a bit farther back and reclined much further than as shown on the plans. However, 12.5" is just the eyeballed number I'm using for the time being and will be adjusted as I work out the details. Planning on using the O-200 from my 150 when I put an O-235 in it. Considered derating an Innodyn turboprop for the KR, but since I have yet to hear anything from them I'd rather stick with someone I'll be able to get parts from like Continental or Lycoming. At this point the only thing I'm really concerned about is bending the fuselage sides to meet at the tailpost. I'm thinking it would be best to do the foam and glass (which is replacing the plywood) while the sides are flat so I can vacuum bag them, but then I have to worry about getting the things to bend enough to meet at the back. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:52:46 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00dd01c5acca$d8e27c20$7f73a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Steve wrote: > Yup, there's some other things there, like my big backside sitting a > bit farther back and reclined much further than as shown on the plans. Unless you move aft quite a bit, this is going to put you at least 5.5" higher up than you would be otherwise, since the aft spar is the rear limit for the bottom of the seat back. Most KR pilots basically end up sitting on the floor to allow their heads to clear the canopy. It sounds like you're not planning on building anything that resembles a KR anyway though. > I'm thinking it would be best to do > the foam and glass (which is replacing the plywood) while the sides > are > flat > so I can vacuum bag them Good luck with that. You might discover that plywood is used because it is light, strong, and requires minimal finishing work... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:11:59 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <054b01c5accd$87fdfd90$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark Langford wrote: > > Unless you move aft quite a bit, this is going to put you at least > 5.5" higher up than you would be otherwise, since the aft spar is the > rear limit for the bottom of the seat back. Most KR pilots basically > end up sitting on the floor to allow their heads to clear the canopy. > It sounds like you're not planning on building anything that resembles > a KR anyway though. Ah, ok. Misread the plans. Looked like the seat was a couple of inches ahead of the aft spar. Cancel that idea, then. I'll still be reclining the seat more than stock, but that won't be an issue. The only major changes from the plans are the airfoil, slightly longer outer wing panels, wingtips, fixed gear, and stretched fuselage. Other than that it's going to be pretty normal. > Good luck with that. You might discover that plywood is used because > it is light, strong, and requires minimal finishing work... I calculated it a while back and the difference in weight is so minimal that it's not worth mentioning, but the difference in strength is significant. Basically the foam and glass is as strong as another layer of plywood on the inside of the fuselage sides. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:02:56 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050829.160355.3036.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve, do the sides vertical and no Bananna Boat, Virg On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:18:27 -0500 "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> writes: > Mark Langford wrote: > > > > I hope you're planning on a really light engine if you're going > to > > add 12.5" behind the firewall (if you mean between main spar and > > firewall), or some other configuration that doesn't resemble a > KR, > > because you'll have to add a bunch of lead in the tail to make it > > flyable otherwise. I'm sure you've thought this out and done the > > weight and balance math, but if not, now would be the time to do > a > > reality check... > > Yup, there's some other things there, like my big backside sitting a > bit > farther back and reclined much further than as shown on the plans. > However, > 12.5" is just the eyeballed number I'm using for the time being and > will be > adjusted as I work out the details. Planning on using the O-200 from > my 150 > when I put an O-235 in it. Considered derating an Innodyn turboprop > for the > KR, but since I have yet to hear anything from them I'd rather stick > with > someone I'll be able to get parts from like Continental or > Lycoming. > > At this point the only thing I'm really concerned about is bending > the > fuselage sides to meet at the tailpost. I'm thinking it would be > best to do > the foam and glass (which is replacing the plywood) while the sides > are flat > so I can vacuum bag them, but then I have to worry about getting the > things > to bend enough to meet at the back. > -- > Steve > 3343v@swbell.net > N3343V- '75 C150M > N205FT- KR1 #6170 > He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:59:42 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <056701c5acdc$946162c0$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: > Steve, do the sides vertical and no Bananna Boat, Virg Yup, that's in the plans, too. I'm going to set the fuselage width to suit me (need to measure that) and leave the sides vertical. Just means a little more room for my butt at the bottom of the fuselage. I'm considering adding an inch of foam to the bottom of the fuselage, then sanding a curve on it and glassing the whole thing. Don't know if the reduction in drag is worth the weight, though. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:06:59 -0600 From: Ron Lee Subject: RE: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050829150611.01c024b0@mail.pcisys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Guys, Not to discriminate, but this list is for KR's ONLY. We welcome >all airplanes but if it is not a KR, it mat be treated like a red >headed step child..... :-) > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) Noted. I just cancelled my hotel reservation. Ron Lee ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:06:02 -0500 From: "Bob Unternaehrer" Subject: KR> Gathering To: Message-ID: <028501c5acdd$77c0c880$de9e690c@hppav> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is there anyone in the Kansas City or Columbia Mo Area driving to the gathering that might be interested in another person to share expenses. You may call me at 660-548-3228 Blue Skies Bob Unternaehrer shilocom@mcmsys.com -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 8/26/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:15:55 +0100 From: "phil brookman" Subject: KR> hapi alternator rectifier To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015001c5acde$d807bc70$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi all after reading about hapis flywheel it seems there are a few cracks which could develop in it i have seen 2 pickys of different flywheels both aluminium ,which one is the better one or are they both not good also i hear stories of magnets coming adrift whith real problems to pilots when they do- and a fix where by a ring is inserted around them any comments on this would realy be appreciated also i might have to replace the regulator rectifier this is after just 150hrs , so iam thinking i need something a whole lot better quality any ideas best for now phil -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/82 - Release Date: 25/08/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:14:51 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Gathering plans To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050829161451.0085a220@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>Guys, Not to discriminate, but this list is for KR's ONLY. We welcome >>all airplanes but if it is not a KR, it mat be treated like a red >>headed step child..... :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Noted. I just cancelled my hotel reservation. > >Ron Lee >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ron, Mark's reply had a :-) but I didn't note one on yours. I hope you aren't serious. Everyone is invited, welcome, and wanted. If you don't show, Mark will feel bad the entire Gathering. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:24:53 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> hapi alternator rectifier To: Message-ID: <43137D25.000001.02060@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phil, Look at the Diehl SuperCase. You should be able to bolt your engine to it, but I don't know about the starter. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- also i might have to replace the regulator rectifier this is after just 150hrs , so iam thinking i need something a whole lot better quality any ideas ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:47:06 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c5ace3$3637afe0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oh for Gods Sake, I hope you are kidding. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Lee" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: RE: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) > > >Guys, Not to discriminate, but this list is for KR's ONLY. We welcome > >all airplanes but if it is not a KR, it mat be treated like a red headed > >step child..... :-) > > > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Noted. I just cancelled my hotel reservation. > > Ron Lee > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:52:40 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002501c5ace3$fa84fba0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron, Just in case you were not, you have my sincere apologies because there was no intended meaning to ward you or anyone else off from the Gathering. Everyone is welcome and every type of plane is welcome. I like to kidd around a lot and I am sorry if it offended you or anyone else. Please disregard that post and come to the Gathering. Larry is right, I will be bummed out if I even suspect what I posted would keep someone from coming. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) > Oh for Gods Sake, I hope you are kidding. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Lee" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) > > > > > > >Guys, Not to discriminate, but this list is for KR's ONLY. We welcome > > >all airplanes but if it is not a KR, it mat be treated like a red headed > > >step child..... :-) > > > > > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > > > Noted. I just cancelled my hotel reservation. > > > > Ron Lee > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:53:48 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002901c5ace4$230cf5a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oh and if you did cancel your hotel room, you can have mine. I think I am going to camp out anyway. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) > Oh for Gods Sake, I hope you are kidding. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Lee" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:06 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Revised KR Gathering Plane List (20) > > > > > > >Guys, Not to discriminate, but this list is for KR's ONLY. We welcome > > >all airplanes but if it is not a KR, it mat be treated like a red headed > > >step child..... :-) > > > > > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > > > Noted. I just cancelled my hotel reservation. > > > > Ron Lee > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> Question for the experienced ones... :-) To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050829215305.30113.qmail@web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 3343V <3343v@swbell.net> wrote: I'm considering adding an inch of foam to the bottom of the fuselage, then sanding a curve on it and glassing the whole thing. Don't know if the reduction in drag is worth the weight, though. -- Hi Steve, I have some experience in doing what you plan to do. Adding that foam for what? Drag reduction? The cowling will end up lower than the fuselage plane right? More weight not needed. IMHO. If you did decide to do it, you need to have one layer of cloth laminated to the wood structure to create the sandwich panel, then on top of that foam and I would use boat cloth too reduce the weight. If you are not careful with the resin and foam the weight will bite you in the butt. The standard KR2 was 64 lbs at the boat stage with center spars and fittings. Mine is 80 lbs. I have streched mine to 24", and 6" wider and 2" taller. Make sure you use the method as described by Mark Langford, where you say out the cloth on plastic sheeting, so you can add just the right amount of resin to the lay up. That really saves weight. Good luck and good building. See my fuselage construction @ the link below. Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:08:44 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> hapi alternator rectifier To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00f501c5ace6$3a3fc340$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The regulator is probably an Onan product. See your local RV dealer. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:34:22 -0500 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> Plywood To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050829.183423.4028.4.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Be very careful about using low priced Baltic birch. Much of this plywood is used for cabinet making and other indoor uses. It looks beautiful, but is not necessarily waterproof. If you buy a sheet of it, cut off a small piece (1/4 X 1 inch piece will do) and boil it in plain water for about 1/2 hour and then try to peel the plys apart (if they have not already come apart.) If it comes apart, don't use it. A safer way is to buy British Spec. 1088 marine ply. It is available at some lumber yards and boat building shops. This ply will have the number 1088 stamped on one face. It will be waterproof, have no face plugs and no large internal voids. I can buy a 4ft by 8ft sheet of Okume 1088 in 2mm or 3mm for about $60 from a boat shop. Dick Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwig11@juno.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 332 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================