From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 37 Date: 1/25/2005 8:58:57 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Widening KR-2s Fuselage - long (Stephen Jacobs) 2. RE: Widening KR-2s Fuselage (F Ross) 3. N-197-RS (Jim Foster) 4. Hello!!! (Glasseyegav) 5. Re: Hello!!! (Mark Jones) 6. Re: Dash Panel Vibration (Phillip Matheson) 7. Re: Hello!!! (Glasseyegav) 8. Re: Hello!!! (Mark Jones) 9. Re: Dash Panel Vibration (Mark Jones) 10. Re: Dash Panel Vibration (Dan Heath) 11. valve adjustments on VW1835 (Born2Fly32570@wmconnect.com) 12. Re: valve adjustments on VW1835 (Dan Heath) 13. Re: valve adjustments on VW1835 (Orma) 14. Dash Panel Vibration (larry flesner) 15. Re: N-197-RS (Randy Smith ) 16. Re: valve adjustments on VW1835 (Randy Smith ) 17. Ingress solution (Dan Heath) 18. RE: Ingress solution (Jack Cooper) 19. RE: Ingress solution (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:30:48 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Widening KR-2s Fuselage - long To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000501c502c0$947b1d80$e064a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The more I read about the KR-2S the more it grows on me. However, I have also read that, like the VP-2, it makes a better fat single seater than a cruiser for 2 adults. +++++++++++++ Hi Sean I have been through the very same thought process and frustrations for a year now - including spending loads of time designing my own based loosely on a KR. Maybe my thoughts and observations will save you some time, so for what it is worth. I prefer to work with wood and I do not have the budget to throw $25k at a kit that is headed for $50k plus. There is little doubt that RR offers the basis for a great airplane with a low budget and costs that can comfortably be spread out over the build period - particularly if you live in the US where you have immediate (overnight) access to everything at really good prices. Construction can start with a small budget - just enough spruce, ply and adhesive for the fuselage, so $500 will keep you busy for months (the entire spruce / ply / foam package is only $1500). There is also little doubt that it can be built as a competent and safe airplane that will last just as well as any glass slipper or spam can - Dan Diehl's KR2 (N4DD) will be 30 years old this July and still going strong (and looking good) - there are many others. Consider the improvement in technology over 30 years, the ease of communication and the advent of refined engine conversions - it becomes clear that it has become easier to build a stunning, reliable and safe airplane. The important part of your question is really about changes to the original design. The short answer is to keep these to a minimum and the build will be much faster (there are KR's that have been completed in a few months) but in order to have a realistic two seat bird - some changes are necessary. There is enough data from completed airplanes to know that this in entirely possible provided you understand that each change has the potential to enforce other changes etc. and will substantially increase the build time (and weight). The KRnet is a super source of info, along with many well documented builder web sites. It is like having 10 different step-by-step construction manuals. I have researched all the airplanes where info is available - this is my advice. Refer Mark Langford's site (Miscellaneous Stuff) for the fuselage stretch (not what he did but what he says he wished he had done). Redraw the side and plan view incorporating the new length and moving the wide-point (plan view) back closer to the wing trailing (better aerodynamics and cockpit width were it is required). Any stretch over the stock KR2S will soften the effect of widening the fuselage - some have added up to 10" (34+10=44"). As a guide, the older C172 is 39" at the shoulder (inside width), so anything over that will be nice. The 2S already ads an inch or two to the fwd fuselage and that should make for ample leg room. If you are going to use a larger (heavier) motor - don't add any more length to the front. One other mod that may be helpful for tall people (refer Larry Flesner) is to lift the turtle deck / canopy an inch or three if necessary. No more than necessary, this directly affects frontal area. Resist the temptation to "beef things up" - rather do a really good job of building to plan with good materials. It is unlikely that you will build out at anything like the weight suggested by RR, so here are my thoughts on accommodating a higher MOTW. I know that MANY KR's are happily flying around at 200 and 300 lbs over weight - the KR that I flew weighed in at 1200lbs with myself and the builder on board. I believe that the wing loading at 1200 lbs is still perfectly acceptable, particularly if you have enhanced the stability (CG envelope) by stretching the aft fuselage (increased tail moment / tail volume). I don't believe that it is clever to totally ignore the fact that the spar was designed for less - even if it appears to work for others. If nothing else, they have a reduced safety margin for the day the bird encounters abnormal loads from severe turbulence or whatever - sh*t happens. We know that the AS 5048/15 results in a deeper spar, so we know that the spar is meaningfully stronger if made exactly according to plan (except for the extra depth) - so that takes care of that. I have read that the WAF,s are more than adequate, but to my mind these are so critical to the integrity of the wing and difficult to control (quality of the metal / treatment) so I did some extra reading. Search the KR archives on "WAF" and look for input by Don Reid. He discusses the topic and makes some suggestions for improving the existing arrangement - he provides the rationale and arithmetic that convinced me. Also visit his web site and look at "some older pictures" - his rendition of the main spar WAF's are visible in the pictures (single row of larger bolts). I would discuss (with a structural engineer) the impact of using the next size up 4130 (maybe 25% thicker). The pre-fab wing skins are great and must save a great deal of time - pity they are only available for the RAF48. The Diehl skins offer extra wing span that appeals to me - not so much because of the lower wing loading, but because of the higher aspect ratio that has a positive effect on efficiency / performance. Take care Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 05:43:37 -0800 (PST) From: F Ross Subject: RE: KR> Widening KR-2s Fuselage To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050125134337.31243.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > The more I read about the KR-2S the more it grows on > me. However, I > have also read that, like the VP-2, it makes a > better fat single seater > than a > cruiser for 2 adults. Large people can fit in the KR but it is tight. It is a strong plane. See my photo of Ken Thomas standing on the wing of his KR at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 Click on the KR Album and look at the first photo. Enlarge the photo by clicking on it. Also, look for photos on Mark Langford's site of the BIG KR. The builder made it about 1 1/2 times the size of a regular KR and uses a larger aircraft engine. Frank ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:19:57 -0600 From: "Jim Foster" Subject: KR> N-197-RS To: Message-ID: <72AB61E888BAD511874A00508B75F7E4032EFEE4@aoi-hou.internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Several weeks ago someone on the list was asking about N-197-RS. Why were you asking? I have information about it. Jim Foster Katy,TX This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or an individual responsible for delivering the communication to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. _______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:53:07 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: KR> Hello!!! To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <001801c50339$04f1c5a0$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Has it been quiet or have I not been getting all messages??? Gav ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:01:27 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Hello!!! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001401c5033a$37f02a40$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think everyone is building so they can fly to this year's Gathering...... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glasseyegav" > Has it been quiet or have I not been getting all messages??? > > Gav ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:06:40 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Dash Panel Vibration To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010701c5033a$e991cc40$e0b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" What has been done with panel vibration? If using wood panel is it necessary, or only with Aluminium ? What have you used as dampeners? Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:09:16 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: Re: KR> Hello!!! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002301c5033b$4661de60$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey Mark what are you going to cover that wing attach area with?? you've got quite a gap to fill. Gav ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:18:35 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Hello!!! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004a01c5033c$98c510e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I used aluminum roof flashing which comes already painted white. Works like a charm. I most likely will close the gap with foam, fiberglass over it and make the wing solid. I have seen others done that way and it is really nice. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glasseyegav" > Hey Mark what are you going to cover that wing attach area with?? > you've got > quite a gap to fill. > > Gav ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:21:28 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Dash Panel Vibration To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005401c5033d$0028f620$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phillip, I have a wooden panel and use no vibration isolators. So far I have 27 hours of run time and have experienced no problems. Of course, my Corvair engine runs as smooth as a Singer sewing machine so there is very little engine vibration. Gotta love those six cylinders. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Matheson" > What has been done with panel vibration? > If using wood panel is it necessary, or only with Aluminium ? What > have you used as dampeners? ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:37:17 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Dash Panel Vibration To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41F6E63D.00000A.00464@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phillip, I used wood on my first KR and had no problems with 185 hours and as far as I know, the new owner never had any problems either. It had no dampers. We are using aluminum on this one with no dampers and I wish I could tell you that we had 40 hours on it with no problems, but we only have zero hours so far. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:40:50 EST From: Born2Fly32570@wmconnect.com Subject: KR> valve adjustments on VW1835 To: krnet@mylist.net Cc: Sentmail@aol.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have just recently purchased a KR2 that was damaged in Hurricane Ivan. She will need some work on the tail and turtle shell and a new canopy. The plane has 108 hours on it and the engine has 10 hours on it. Ivan wont keep this bird down! ILL see to that. But the plane dose have some bad history of engine failure in flight and the pilot had to make a dead stick landing. On inspection on the aircraft the engine had no compression. Further inspection revealed that the valves were out of adjustment. The valves were adjusted and the engine ran great. My Question to all of you is will this be a recurring problem or is this a one time thing? I do not have an engine manual. If you good folks know please share your wisdom. Thanks; Ferris Mcgee ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:51:11 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> valve adjustments on VW1835 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41F6E97F.00000E.00464@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You asked: The valves were adjusted and the engine ran great. My Question to all of you is will this be a recurring problem or is this a one time thing? If you have a VW engine, yes it is a recurring thing that you have to tend to. However, it is not a problem, it just is one of the issues with a VW. You have to regularly check and adjust the valves. There are many books on the subject, but you can probably find some information on http://greatplainsas.com and order a manual from the same place. It is an easy task that is key to continued good service from a VW. Or, you can install a hydraulic valve kit. Some people like them, some people don't. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:06:58 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> valve adjustments on VW1835 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006401c50343$5838b250$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Besides the things that Daniel has stated, there are other issues with the VW that require the valves to need adjustment. The one that comes to mind is the stretching of the valves. As a safety measure, It might be wise to take the valves out and measure them for stretch. If the engine was subjected to overheating, stretching could have taken place. Excessive stretching leads to valve failure. Another source for VW books etc is www.donssport.com He is based here in SE Michigan and is a true VW expert just as Steve at GPASC. As some would say, give the business to Steve first, because he supports our KR's. Dons Sport Vehicle Sales specializes in Bugs and buggies. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR celebrating 20 years Flying, flying and more flying http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:05:06 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Dash Panel Vibration To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050125190506.007d7280@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >What has been done with panel vibration? >If using wood panel is it necessary, or only with Aluminium ? What >have you used as dampeners? Phillip Matheson ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm using a fiberglass panel but I made some VERY CHEAP shock mounts. I used 5 spruce blocks, each one approx 1 X 1.5 X 2 inch, that are epoxied to the bottom side of the forward deck. These mounting blocks are drilled, then taper drilled from each side with the small ends of the tapers meeting in the middle. I used rubber corks, cut them to extend just outside the wood blocks when inserted from each side, drilled them through the middle to accept #10 bolts. I used flathead, tapered bolts that go through the panel, through the rubber corks in the wood blocks, a wood washer on the back side and a nut. The result is the corks pull down into the block when the nut is screwed down. With the bolt running through the center of the cork, the panel is effectly mounted on 5 shock mounts. I probably have a picture I could e-mail to someone interested or ask someone to post it. The only problem I had was at about the 20 hour point. I was motoring along one day a 2500 feet, grinning from ear to ear, when I noticed hardware falling from behind the panel. After landing I found I had forgotten to replace the temparary castle nuts with locknuts. Like they say, out of sight, out of mind, . Fortunatly it wasn't a life threatning mistake and the correct hardware was easily installed. building hint: I used 8 layer of KR cloth to lay up my panel. It turned out to be a little thin and needed some bracing. I'd go 12 or 14 layers if I were doing it again and still add a small piece of spruce on the bottom back side. As always, your results may vary...... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:53:25 -0600 From: "Randy Smith " Subject: Re: KR> N-197-RS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c50349$d311eb30$a1cab944@home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I used to own it and was wanting to know what happened to it. Email be direct at cruiseair74372@charter.net Randy Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Foster" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: KR> N-197-RS > Several weeks ago someone on the list was asking about N-197-RS. Why > were you asking? I have information about it. > > > > Jim Foster > > Katy,TX > > > > > This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is > privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable > law. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or > an individual responsible for delivering the communication to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution or copying of > this communication is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > _______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:03:49 -0600 From: "Randy Smith " Subject: Re: KR> valve adjustments on VW1835 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002501c5034b$471890f0$a1cab944@home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original There also is a really good book out there called something like a idiots manual for VW. It really explains everything about VW engines and VW cars ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> valve adjustments on VW1835 > You asked: The valves were adjusted and the engine > > ran great. My Question to all of you is will this be a recurring problem > or > is > > this a one time thing? > > > > If you have a VW engine, yes it is a recurring thing that you have to tend > to. However, it is not a problem, it just is one of the issues with a VW. > You have to regularly check and adjust the valves. There are many books on > the subject, but you can probably find some information on > http://greatplainsas.com and order a manual from the same place. It is an > easy task that is key to continued good service from a VW. > > Or, you can install a hydraulic valve kit. Some people like them, some > people don't. > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:13:04 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Ingress solution To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41F6FCB0.000016.00464@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Getting into either seat can be difficult with all those belts in your way. Then trying to get them out from under your butt can be really tough. After much pondering and gnashing of teath, I came up with a simple solution. You can see it at http://kr-builder.org/CockpitWork/index.html The first 6 thumbs tell the story. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:20:56 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Ingress solution To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005132622056531@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dan Good ideal on the seat belts. Are your seats cushioned? Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Dan Heath > To: krnet@mylist.net > Date: 1/25/2005 9:12:54 PM > Subject: KR> Ingress solution > > Getting into either seat can be difficult with all those belts in your way. > Then trying to get them out from under your butt can be really tough. After > much pondering and gnashing of teath, I came up with a simple solution. > > You can see it at http://kr-builder.org/CockpitWork/index.html > > The first 6 thumbs tell the story. > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:24:43 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Ingress solution To: , "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41F6FF6B.000018.00464@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jack, Thanks, and yes indeedie they are. About a 2" on the butt and a 1" on the back. We still needed to keep it as low as possible. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- From: kr2cooper@earthlink.net; KRnet Date: 01/25/05 21:21:02 To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Ingress solution Dan Good ideal on the seat belts. Are your seats cushioned? Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Dan Heath > To: krnet@mylist.net > Date: 1/25/2005 9:12:54 PM > Subject: KR> Ingress solution > > Getting into either seat can be difficult with all those belts in your way. > Then trying to get them out from under your butt can be really tough. After > much pondering and gnashing of teath, I came up with a simple solution. > > You can see it at http://kr-builder.org/CockpitWork/index.html > > The first 6 thumbs tell the story. > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 37 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================