From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 396 Date: 10/7/2005 5:01:52 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. KR rebuild (wilder_jeff Wilder) 2. Control cables (Peter Drake) 3. Plans! (Cris.) 4. Re: Which KR2 to build? (Mark Langford) 5. Re: using Key off/run/start switch as master? (Mark Langford) 6. Re: EAA Tech Inspectors (Mark Langford) 7. Re: Control cables (Allen Wiesner ) 8. RE: Control cables (Mark Jones) 9. Re: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? (danrh@alltel.net) 10. Re: Control cables (Peter Drake) 11. RE: Control cables (Mark Jones) 12. Control cables/rudder springs (larry flesner) 13. Re: Control cables/rudder springs (Peter Drake) 14. R?f. : Re: KR> Control cables/rudder springs (Serge VIDAL) 15. nose gear (Don Chisholm) 16. RE: nose gear (Mark Jones) 17. Re: Re: KR> Control cables (danrh@alltel.net) 18. Florida KR-2 & Plans? (Brad Renter) 19. Re: nose gear (Orma) 20. Re: Gyro instruments (Fritz) 21. Re: Re: KR> Control cables (larry flesner) 22. RE: nose gear (larry flesner) 23. Re: nose gear (Mark Jones) 24. Re: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? (Barry Kruyssen) 25. Re: Florida KR-2 & Plans? (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:29:56 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: KR> KR rebuild To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed In all of the e-mails that have passed through, I have found most interst in the rebuild and that of the new airfoils. I purchased a hull and 80% finished DD wings. The fuse was on its gear had a turtle deck and tail was basically finished. I didnt like the look of the turtle deck, cut it off.... good thing it weighted almost 35 lbs. The tail has a little left built in. The plane is a kr2 and had a 14in bay placed aft of the cockpit. The plane is a tri gear. I am sending this out to get an opinion from the group. Whie I think that there is alot of movement in the automotive /aircraft conversions.... I still do not trust an automotive engine in my plane... but because of the tail, I can not really run an aircraft O200. My thoughts are this. Build a new fuse 44 inches wide, KR2SS, w/ o200 or like engine. I would be able to strip all the hardware off the existing plane... sell the boat and DD wings... the new plane would have the better/new airfoil. I know and realize that the plane is strong enough if built to stock.. but I believe that if I use carbon throughout I would be able to save some weight or keep the same same weight for a bit more strength. beef up the front end to carry abit more weight. I dont believe that it would not take me all that long to buld a new fuse and spars... if I got to it... a few months to have it back to the state that its at now. The wings are another story. If I keep my current plane.. I am going to turn it into a single seater... its just not big enough for my big butt and my kid and run it with a VW engine. Once again, thanks agin for the direction and information. -Jeff Wilder CISSP,CCE,C/EH -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM/CS/O d- s:+ a C+++ UH++ P L++ E- w-- N+++ o-- K- w O- M-- V-- PS+ PE- Y++ PGP++ t+ 5- X-- R* tv b++ DI++ D++ G e* h--- r- y+++* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >From: larry flesner >Reply-To: KRnet >To: KRnet >Subject: KR> Flight Report/ Gathering dates >Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:51:49 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: flesner@pop.midwest.net (Unverified) >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by >mc7-f23.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:55:14 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1ENiNu-000DUZ-Fb; Thu, 06 Oct >2005 19:54:58 -0700 >Received: from onempop-canada.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.60])by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENiNY-000DTN-QUfor >krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 19:54:36 -0700 >Received: from dialup-4.159.177.100.dial1.chicago1.level3.net >([4.159.177.100]helo=larry-flesner)by onempop-canada.atl.sa.earthlink.net >with smtp (Exim 3.36 #10)id 1ENiMZ-0006cv-00for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 06 >Oct 2005 22:53:35 -0400 >X-Message-Info: loPmDlX8LgffpmA/oICvv9HdDUCk5iqExb1Bd3U2+t8= >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Oct 2005 02:55:14.0599 (UTC) >FILETIME=[8A933B70:01C5CAEA] > > Larry you have got to set the dates for > >the 2006 Gathering so I can start the countdown. > >>Mark Jones >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Sept 29 and 30, 2006 !!!!!!!! Let's start praying to the weather Gods. > > >We'll drop the Sunday date from the schedule as everyone leaves out >early Sunday morning and it's all over by lunch time. > >So, how many more days????????? > >I'm planning a three hour round trip for this weekend to visit family. >Weather looks great except for the headwind. > >Larry Flesner > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:48:25 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: KR> Control cables To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c5cb1b$e1758ca0$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hi all What diameter cable should I use for rudder controls. I cant find this info on any of the plans or the manual, or should I just get new glasses! Peter Drake Hereford UK ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:35:24 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: KR> Plans! To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is just to say that this morning in Rome FCO Airport Oscar Zuniga took the chance of his holiday in Italy for bringing me the plans for KR2S. So I'm supposed to be part of the community, now :-) Ciao! Cristiano. -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:43:46 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <049001c5cb2b$feb1e1f0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Go with the stock 2s and widen it a bit if necessary. I think the only time it's NOT necessary to widen the KR2S is when you build it as a one seater! 3"-6" wider at the shoulders (and maybe even leave it stock width or only slightly wider at the knees) will make it a decent 2-seater. I've sat in plenty of KR2's (which are the same width as KR2S's, if built to plans), and if it wasn't widened, it's practically not a two seater... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:44:03 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> using Key off/run/start switch as master? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <049101c5cb2c$08c7f990$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Darren Pond wrote: > Is it acceptable to use the Keyed off/run/start switch as master > switch (battery solenoid)? That's the way mine is, but I'm using a high quality Cole-Hersee (http://www.colehersee.com/catalog_top/index.htm ) switch that's rated for 10 amps @12V (don't know the part number, since it's been ten years). I wouldn't do that with some unknown-quantity auto parts store switch that had no ratings on the package though. Contactors fail too, so to me, that's just another failure mode that I'd be building in if I had one. Having said that, the "backup" is my DPDT (double pole, double throw) switch that swaps out both ignition systems and fuel pumps. The "secondary" circuit is powered by the backup battery, with the output powering the backup fuel pump and the secondary ignition coil ONLY. I'm even sufficiently paranoid to have tried to run them such that if something fried in the primary system, no melted wires would affect the "secondary" system. There are some more details on this are at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/fuel/index.html . What I like most about this system is that it's just like starting a car in practice, and if there's any kind of hiccup, if I switch that one switch from left to right, and things don't improve, I already know that (other than carb heat), there's not much I'm going to be able to do about the failure other than continue to "fly the plane" and start concentrating on picking out a landing spot... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 05:45:33 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> EAA Tech Inspectors To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <049701c5cb2c$3e896b40$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" William Scott wrote: > Is it absolutely necesasry to have > EAA tech inspections during the building process? The first time my tech inspector came out, he confessed that he knew little about composite aircraft, having been a really excellent A&P/IA for years. He told me it was obvious that I knew at least as much as the guy that designed the plane, and told me he'd be happy to drop by and "inspect" twice more to get the paperwork that the insurance companies like to see (three inspections by a tech counseler before first flight, as well as counseling by a "flight advisor"). He made those two "inspections" when I had the local EAA chapter over twice for a look see, and filed the paperwork with the EAA. As I got closer to flying (and buying hull insurance), I called EAA to verify. They had no record, and confessed that they're old accounting system would probably explain why it was lost. They claim to do better now, but my point is, keep a copy of the paperwork for proof... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 07:48:58 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> Control cables To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001401c5cb35$1b5c0d90$8e16da42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original >What diameter cable should I use for rudder controls. I cant find this >info >on any of the plans or the >manual Per the parts list in an old Wicks Catalog, the control cable is 3/32" x 7 x 19 cable. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 07:17:30 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Control cables To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C4578@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is correct and all the control cables are 3/32x7x19. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Allen Wiesner Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 6:49 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Control cables >What diameter cable should I use for rudder controls. I cant find this info >on any of the plans or the >manual Per the parts list in an old Wicks Catalog, the control cable is 3/32" x 7 x 19 cable. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 7:26:07 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051007122607.MDGU12191.ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I consider a stock KR2 or 2S as a 1 + 1, sort of like some cars are designated as a 2 + 2. This is OK, if most of your flying is going to be by yourself or with a small companion. However, if you expect to be flying with two full sized adults, most of the time, you should seriously consider widening it. My first KR2 never carried a passenger, I expect that this one will, but most of my flying will probably be by myself. Most, almost all, of the flight reports that I have read on the net are with ONE person aboard. Do you NEED a full 2 place airplane, or is a 1 + 1 sufficient for your purposes? Dan Heath From: "Mark Langford" Date: 2005/10/07 Fri AM 05:43:46 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? >Go with the stock 2s and widen it a bit if necessary. I think the only time it's NOT necessary to widen the KR2S is when you build it as a one seater! 3"-6" wider at the shoulders (and maybe even leave it stock width or only slightly wider at the knees) will make it a decent 2-seater. I've sat in plenty of KR2's (which are the same width as KR2S's, if built to plans), and if it wasn't widened, it's practically not a two seater... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:52:44 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> Control cables To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c5cb3e$02e59b60$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks for that. Have you any opions on the merits of return springs on the pedals against a cable run around? Peter Drake Hereford UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: RE: KR> Control cables > That is correct and all the control cables are 3/32x7x19. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:16:38 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Control cables To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C457D@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Peter, I have the tension springs on my rudder pedals connected from the pedal to the firewall. I have 56.2 flying hours with this set up and have had no problems. The springs keep the cables just taught enough to compensate for any cable stretch which might occur and also will center the rudder if you remove your feet from the pedals (of course air pressure would center the rudder on the pulley run around system). Personally, I prefer this over the pulley run around system. It is your choice. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Peter Drake Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 7:53 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Control cables Thanks for that. Have you any opions on the merits of return springs on the pedals against a cable run around? Peter Drake Hereford UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: RE: KR> Control cables > That is correct and all the control cables are 3/32x7x19. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:07:31 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Control cables/rudder springs To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20051007100731.00845d40@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Have you any opions on the merits of return springs on the pedals >against a >cable run around? >Peter Drake ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I used springs like Mark Jones and with 170 hours on the KR it seems to work well. It just seemed like an easier build at the time vs. the cable loop. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:15:03 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> Control cables/rudder springs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c5cb51$e546f770$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Springs it is then! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: KR> Control cables/rudder springs > >>Have you any opions on the merits of return springs on the pedals >>against >>a >>cable run around? >>Peter Drake > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I used springs like Mark Jones and with 170 hours on the KR it seems > to work well. It just seemed like an easier build at the time vs. the > cable loop. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:19:52 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Control cables/rudder springs To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mine has cable fitted between the rudder pedals and the rudder horn and tailwheel (as shown in the drawings), but no springs. The pedals are simply loose, and you keep the cables tensed with your feet. I guess I should change that one day. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Peter Drake" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-10-07 17:15 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-10-07 17:15 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Control cables/rudder springs Springs it is then! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: KR> Control cables/rudder springs > >>Have you any opions on the merits of return springs on the pedals against >>a >>cable run around? >>Peter Drake > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I used springs like Mark Jones and with 170 hours on the KR it seems > to work well. It just seemed like an easier build at the time vs. the > cable loop. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:32:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> nose gear To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051007153242.35186.qmail@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm curious about prop clearances and what's available for bigger diameter props as what would be used on a 0 200 Continental or 0 235 Lycoming. I haven't looked at other designs yet but am interested in other peoples thoughts and experiences on the subject on the kr net ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:53:58 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> nose gear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C4580@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don, I have a clearance of 40 inches from my thrust line to the ground on my Diehl nose gear. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Don Chisholm Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:33 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> nose gear I'm curious about prop clearances and what's available for bigger diameter props as what would be used on a 0 200 Continental or 0 235 Lycoming. I haven't looked at other designs yet but am interested in other peoples thoughts and experiences on the subject on the kr net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:19:31 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: KR> Control cables To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051007181931.SRTN18995.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I prefer the cable run around system because I don't like the idea of the pedals operating independantly of each other. When one is depressed, there may be no tension on the other side. Have you ever flown a plane that operated that way? I put a turn buckle on a cable between the rudder pedals and a turn buckle on each rudder cable. That way I can keep them taught and properly adjusted. If there ever is "slop" in a cable, you are opening yourself up for flutter. I am certain that your results will vary. Dan Heath From: "Peter Drake" Date: 2005/10/07 Fri AM 07:52:44 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> Control cables Thanks for that. Have you any opions on the merits of return springs on the pedals against a cable run around? Peter Drake Hereford UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: RE: KR> Control cables > That is correct and all the control cables are 3/32x7x19. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:53:56 +0100 (BST) From: "Brad Renter" Subject: KR> Florida KR-2 & Plans? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1240.24.73.137.228.1128714836.squirrel@www.blueaero.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hello, If this message already came through on my other email address please disregard. However I have been having difficulty setting up and sending messages through the list. Anyways here are my questions. 1) Are there any sample plans or anything similar out there to see before I purchase the plans? 2) Also are there any KR-2S, KR-2 in Florida under construction or flying? Thanks, Brad beakon20@blueaero.net ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:01:14 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> nose gear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00cc01c5cb82$424e6c70$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark does that mean that if you are careful that you could run a 79 inch prop (smile) Orma ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:10:06 -0400 From: "Fritz" Subject: Re: KR> Gyro instruments To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006101c5cb83$7e6b1b30$01fea8c0@MillFritz> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original You'r right,Riley,you can't run 400 cycle insts. on 60 cycle,it just can't work!! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:31 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gyro instruments > In a message dated 10/4/2005 4:40:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jscott.pilot@juno.com writes: > >> Am I the only one that thinks there might be a problem running a >> 115VAC 400HZ instrument on 110VAC 60HZ output? >> > > The problem will be the rpm of the gyro, it probably has a 2 pole ac > motor which would give 24,000 rpm at 400 hz, or 3600 at 60 hz > > Just my humble opinion > > > Riley Collins > Rutledge, TN > KR2-SS, Lycoming Power _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:35:22 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: Re: KR> Control cables To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20051007163522.0086ee80@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:19 PM 10/7/05 -0500, you wrote: >I prefer the cable run around system because I don't like the idea of >the pedals operating independantly of each other. When one is depressed, there may be no tension on the other side. >Dan Heath +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the case of a spring system, the way mine is set up, pressure on one pedal will apply pressure on the opposite pedal spring through the rudder system. The further the pedal is depressed, the greater the spring tension applied to the opposite cable. Both my cables are under constant tension at any rudder deflection, even if I have a foot only on one pedal and applying pressure. I have seen a "certified" airplane that had no springs or turn-around cable and the rudder pedals "flopped loose" when no pressure was applied with the feet. I can't believe that was the way it was designed but that was the way it was flying. Not the way I'd want it. It was a Tripacer converted to a tailwheel. Most tri-gear use the nosewheel linkage to close the loop, so to speak, and whoever converted this one never replaced the nosewheel loop with springs or a cable. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 16:39:02 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: RE: KR> nose gear To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20051007163902.00795360@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I have a clearance of 40 inches from my thrust line to the ground on my >Diehl nose gear. Mark Jones (N886MJ) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I think the FAA likes to see a minimum of 9 inches prop to ground clearance so in theory you could run a 60D or 62D (diameter) prop with your setup. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 17:14:48 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> nose gear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c5cb8c$881ba420$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yea, as long as my tire does not go flat. But then I could increase the pressure in the front tire and lower the pressure in the main tires and probably swing an 80 incher. :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: KR> nose gear > Mark does that mean that if you are careful that you could run a 79 > inch prop (smile) > > Orma > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 09:02:59 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03c001c5cb93$4482eff0$9800a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My wife would come flying more often if it was more comfortable. The stock KR2 is too narrow. (This sounds like a reason to build a KR2S but widened :-) regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: danrh@alltel.net To: KRnet Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? I consider a stock KR2 or 2S as a 1 + 1, sort of like some cars are designated as a 2 + 2. This is OK, if most of your flying is going to be by yourself or with a small companion. However, if you expect to be flying with two full sized adults, most of the time, you should seriously consider widening it. My first KR2 never carried a passenger, I expect that this one will, but most of my flying will probably be by myself. Most, almost all, of the flight reports that I have read on the net are with ONE person aboard. Do you NEED a full 2 place airplane, or is a 1 + 1 sufficient for your purposes? Dan Heath From: "Mark Langford" Date: 2005/10/07 Fri AM 05:43:46 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> Which KR2 to build? >Go with the stock 2s and widen it a bit if necessary. I think the only time it's NOT necessary to widen the KR2S is when you build it as a one seater! 3"-6" wider at the shoulders (and maybe even leave it stock width or only slightly wider at the knees) will make it a decent 2-seater. I've sat in plenty of KR2's (which are the same width as KR2S's, if built to plans), and if it wasn't widened, it's practically not a two seater... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:00:00 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Florida KR-2 & Plans? To: beakon20@blueaero.net,krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051007.200001.3880.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Where in Fl. Order info pack, Virg On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:53:56 +0100 (BST) "Brad Renter" writes: > Hello, > > If this message already came through on my other email address > please > disregard. However I have been having difficulty setting up and > sending > messages through the list. Anyways here are my questions. > > 1) Are there any sample plans or anything similar out there to see > before > I purchase the plans? > > 2) Also are there any KR-2S, KR-2 in Florida under construction or > flying? > > Thanks, > > Brad > beakon20@blueaero.net > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 396 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================