From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 418 Date: 10/19/2005 6:39:24 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. GL rating for ply (Chris Johnston) 2. Windshield (Dan Heath) 3. Re: Engine Ads (Mark Jones) 4. Sterba Address (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 5. RE: Sterba Address (Mark Jones) 6. Re: Windshield (Brian Olson) 7. Re: Windshield (Mark Langford) 8. RE: Windshield (Mark Jones) 9. Re: GL rating for ply (Pat Driscoll) 10. Re: GL rating for ply (w.higdon9604@comcast.net) 11. Re: Covering material (Ron Butterfield) 12. Re: Covering material (Don Chisholm) 13. RE: Windshield (Steve Jacobs) 14. flight (Joseph H. Horton) 15. Re: GL rating for ply (Pat Driscoll) 16. Re: flight (Dan Heath) 17. RE: Windshield (larry severson) 18. Re: flight (Mark Jones) 19. first flight (Joseph H. Horton) 20. RE: first flight (Joachim Saupe) 21. RE: Windshield (Ron Smith) 22. Steve Jones tribute (John Bouyea) 23. Re: first flight (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 24. RE: Windshield (larry severson) 25. Re: Windshield (Donald Reid) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:03:19 +1000 From: "Chris Johnston" Subject: KR> GL rating for ply To: Message-ID: <006e01c5d494$554a05d0$5a4e20cb@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can anyone tell me the requirement as far as GL rating is concerned for birch ply for kr fuselage sides, I have the option of GL1 or GL3, GL1 is apparently certified and inspected by microscope, and very very expensive, while GL3, has "minor" defects, but is affordable, my question is, is GL3 good enough for the fuselage sides? PS: Had my fuselage frames inspected by the local tech counsellor, and he thought my glue joints were very good, so thanks everyone for your input on glue joints. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:16:31 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Windshield To: Message-ID: <43561CFF.000018.05056@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Brian, We replaced the Lexan with a new one made of Acrylic ( Plexiglass ) 3/16". The Lexan that we used should never be used for a windshield and I can go into all the reasons why, off line, if you like. Acrylic cannot be "cold" formed. So the oven and all the issues that go along with heat forming. The cool thing about our canopy is that you will never see one exactly like it. The really not cool thing about our canopy is that you will never find one exactly like it. Therefore, if anything happens to it, we are toast until I can build a new one and I don't even want to think about that. You have brought up some really bad memories and I have tried to put some of them back on the site, but cannot find all the parts right now. I will look at it later and post when I have replaced the pertinent parts. My best advise to anyone thinking of forming their own windshield, is go have as many Heineken as it takes to make you forget that thought. By the way, it only took me 7 tries to get is as right as it is. Go to Todd s web site and read about why he is now selling bubbles. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is over. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- Did you end up replacing that section eventually (and if so, with a different material?) or did you leave it? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:36:31 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002f01c5d498$f8aafc80$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OHHHHHH GLIDDEN........some day you will come knocking for help or info and I will be so glad to give you the good ole Bubba answer. :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Glidden" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads > Brian > I got more faith in you then that Jones guy doe's I'll take two of > them for > my twin engine KR I'm building... > > Bob Glidden > Eminence,Indiana > KR2S N181FW (building) > Corvair 110 > glidden@ccrtc.com > > --- > --- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:48:45 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Sterba Address To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000b01c5d4a3$0faa3d60$f4ca5844@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Kr-netters, I would like to have the E-mail address and phone number for Ed Sterba props. Thanks, Ray Goree raybeth123@sbcglobal.net Ray Goree 817-795-4779 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:06:38 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Sterba Address To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C45B8@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Contact Sterba Propeller Company by phone: 1-941-778-3103 by mail: 513 68 Street Holmes Beach, FL 34217 or by E-mail: ed_sterba@excite.com Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of raybeth123@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:49 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Sterba Address Kr-netters, I would like to have the E-mail address and phone number for Ed Sterba props. Thanks, Ray Goree raybeth123@sbcglobal.net Ray Goree 817-795-4779 _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:19:48 +0000 From: n9433v@comcast.net (Brian Olson) Subject: Re: KR> Windshield To: KRnet Message-ID: <101920051219.17710.435639E4000A7FDA0000452E220702155390CCCCCBC702@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Dan: As beautiful as it turned out, I'll heed your guidance. When I get to the point of thinking about a canopy, I'll open up my Heinekens and my checkbook for a pre-made beast. Thanks, and I look forward to seeing your flight report in the coming days. -- Brian Olson Alpharetta, GA -------------- Original message -------------- > Brian, > > > > We replaced the Lexan with a new one made of Acrylic ( Plexiglass ) > 3/16". > The Lexan that we used should never be used for a windshield and I can go > into all the reasons why, off line, if you like. Acrylic cannot be "cold" > formed. So the oven and all the issues that go along with heat forming. The > cool thing about our canopy is that you will never see one exactly like it. > The really not cool thing about our canopy is that you will never find one > exactly like it. Therefore, if anything happens to it, we are toast until I > can build a new one and I don't even want to think about that. You have > brought up some really bad memories and I have tried to put some of them > back on the site, but cannot find all the parts right now. I will look at it > later and post when I have replaced the pertinent parts. > > > > My best advise to anyone thinking of forming their own windshield, is > go > have as many Heineken as it takes to make you forget that thought. > > > > By the way, it only took me 7 tries to get is as right as it is. Go to > Todd > s web site and read about why he is now selling bubbles. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > is over. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > Did you end up replacing that section > > eventually (and if so, with a different material?) or did you leave > it? > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:38:06 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Windshield To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c5d4a9$f4b0b4b0$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dan Heath wrote: > My best advise to anyone thinking of forming their own windshield, is > go have as many Heineken as it takes to make you forget that thought. I too entertained thoughts of making my own canopy. What got me off of that idea was Don Reid's comment "the best thing I can say about the many attempts to make my own canopy is that I never completely suceeded in burning my house down in the process", or something to that affect. If you're going to buy a canopy, I recommend the Dragonfly. It's cheaper and thinner (and lighter) than an RR, easily shaped, and already wide enough to allow widening the fuselage. More details are at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kcf.html , with the address of Slipstream located at the bottom. Larry Flesner used a Pulsar, which also appears to be a good choice. Did 1.3 hours yesterday, 7 takeoffs and landings, three at "night". Two were so slow the tailwheel hit first, not that it appears to matter much. It has just recently dawned on me that I am finally living the dream of driving to the airport, rolling it out, firing it up, and having a blast! My own personal time machine has finally arrived! There IS a light at the end of the tunnel... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:14:15 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Windshield To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C45BD@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- Behalf Of Mark Langford Dan Heath wrote: > My best advise to anyone thinking of forming their own windshield, is > go have as many Heineken as it takes to make you forget that thought. I recommend the Dragonfly. It's cheaper and thinner (and lighter) than an RR, easily shaped, and already wide enough to allow widening the fuselage. More details are at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kcf.html , with the address of Slipstream located at the bottom. Slipstream no longer is the Dragonfly source. They sold out to Dart Industries a couple of years ago. Here is the ling to the Dragonfly web site: http://www.dart-industries.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&Itemid=180 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:20:01 -0500 From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: Re: KR> GL rating for ply To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002401c5d4b8$3142cea0$0500a8c0@PREFERREE6A566> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check out Baltic Birch. I have boiled it, beat it with a hammer, cut it into 1" wide strips and bent it to breaking point and I have not seen any difference between it and "Aircraft Grade " sitka spruce and it's about $14 for a 60" x 60" X 1/8" Pat Driscoll Saint Paul, Mn patrick36@usfamily.net --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:15:45 +0000 From: w.higdon9604@comcast.net Subject: Re: KR> GL rating for ply To: KRnet Message-ID: <101920051515.10997.435663210000FBA800002AF52200761064CBCFC0C702010B090708D299@comcast.net> Pat, It pays to know your wood, some of the "Baltic Birch" is glued with water proof glues, and some isn't. A test of a small sample from each sheet wouldn't be a bad idea. Back in the 70's I tested some non aircraft grade Finnish birch plywood, several pannels were boil proof, and one came apart when sitting in room temp water. The ones that passed got used in a Cassutt. Roger Mann uses Baltic Birch is his planes. Bill Higdon > Check out Baltic Birch. > I have boiled it, beat it with a hammer, cut it into 1" wide strips > and bent > it to breaking point and I have not seen any difference between it and "Aircraft > Grade " sitka spruce and it's about $14 for a 60" x 60" X 1/8" > Pat Driscoll > Saint Paul, Mn > patrick36@usfamily.net > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:34:28 -0400 From: Ron Butterfield Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20051019113118.01ce80e8@pop.mebtel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed At 05:15 PM 10/18/05, Don wrote: >I don't know if Ron is An upholsterer /Canvass guy I'm not. I've got a local friend who is also a self employed upholstere , however. My personal feeling is that it would be better to order something like this from someone who actually uses it themselves. In this kind of work, there are all kinds of details that can cause something to work either well or poorly. On the other hand, many of us would rather do something ourselves than pay for 20 hours of someone else's labor, which is why I posted the link to the material. Regards, RonB ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:52:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Chisholm Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051019175249.78271.qmail@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Ron; I'll wait till friday to post a proposal to the net but I think I can make covers for a half decent price as once I do the pattern which is a big part of the job the ones after the first one are straight layout cut and sew and I've done covers for various aircraft so I have a good idea of what's required and am into KR's I'm not. I've got a local friend who is also a self employed upholstere , however. My personal feeling is that it would be better to order something like this from someone who actually uses it themselves. In this kind of work, there are all kinds of details that can cause something to work either well or poorly. On the other hand, many of us would rather do something ourselves than pay for 20 hours of someone else's labor, which is why I posted the link to the material. Regards, RonB _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:34:42 -0700 From: "Steve Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Windshield To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c5d537$f9cfcd30$5764a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" They sold out to Dart Industries a couple of years ago. Here is the ling to the Dragonfly web site: ++++++++++++++++++++++ Dart Industries is now located on the East coast of South Africa. When I last inquired, they were still importing canopies from the US so pointless going there if you are in the US. They were moving towards local manufacture, but even then I cannot see it being cost effective to import. I am sure most netters already know that Todd's Canopies (http://www.toddscanopies.com/) provides a good product, especially when you want to tweak it a bit longer, taller or wider. Hard to beat at $300/350 for a KR2/2S canopy (or a Dragonfly canopy) Steve Zambia ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:02:40 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> flight To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051019.170240.2432.1.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii YEEEEEEHAAAA!!!!!!! details latter Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 16:05:18 -0500 From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: Re: KR> GL rating for ply To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c5d4f0$cf7fdcb0$0500a8c0@PREFERREE6A566> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bill Higdon wrote: It pays to know your wood, some of the "Baltic Birch" is glued with water proof glues, and some isn't Thanks for the pointer. I figured that the first two sheets I bought came from the same batch and tested a piece of one sheet. I have since bought 5 more sheets so I'll run the same test on each of them as well as on the first one I didn't test. To paraphrase a well known Quote, " there is a time for building and a time for flying but if you build it wrong, the time for flying will not arrive." Pat Driscoll Saint Paul, Mn patrick36@usfamily.net --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:14:06 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> flight To: Message-ID: <4356B71E.000005.04332@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is over. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: Joseph H. Horton Date: 10/19/05 17:05:13 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> flight YEEEEEEHAAAA!!!!!!! details latter Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:24:52 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: RE: KR> Windshield To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20051019142219.02509da0@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed As of a year ago, the Dragonfly canopy was made in Gardena, California. They supplied it to Slipstream, but I picked up mine at the factory. I will try to find my receipt tomorrow. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:38:38 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c5d4fd$dd2aa0e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Details my man details. CONGRATS Mr. KR Pilot. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph H. Horton" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: KR> flight > YEEEEEEHAAAA!!!!!!! > details latter > > Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:22:37 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> first flight To: krnet@mylist.net,corvaircraft@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051019.192237.2432.2.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Life is good. Forecast was for wind yet today but it dawned clear and calm. I had to take one of the kids to school today so I was going to be late for work anyway. I got to the airport around 8:20am and it was still calm. I called the ground crew and started getting the plane ready. By 9:10 we had every thing ready and a briefing done. I started her up and let it warm up a few minutes and taxied to 29 for a high speed taxi first and then the plan was to come back around and do the flight on the second run. After a run up and instrument check I called for a high speed taxi on 29. That was about the end of the flight plan that was laying on the seat beside me. I gave it about 1/2 throttle to start the roll and then slowly gave it the rest. the roll and track felt so good that I left the throttle full a quick scan showed all the numbers good and only a couple seconds latter she leaped from the runway. I had to only correct for a very slight wing drop and she was climbing at 90 mph and somewhere around 1000' per minute. Pitch was absolutely a non issue and the roll response was rock steady. I was at pattern altitude about a 1/4 mile off the runway end, at 2000' on crosswind and 3000' while turning downwind. I leveled off at 3000' and just settled in. All the temps stayed low. 300 deg. was the highest cylinder in climb. oil was 175 deg. and exhaust was around 1150 deg. I worked on slow flight and into power off stalls but did not take her to a full stall. I just wanted to get the out side picture in my head. I did a little bit of full throttle but backed off at 140 mph indicated. I saw that the wind was starting to move on the ground so I worked my way down to pattern and went for a landing. I nailed the numbers for speed and decent on pattern. 90 downwind, 80 x-wind and turned finial feeling pretty good. The glide lights were good, looked at the speed and it had jumped to 110 mph. I stayed with it down to the threshold and I was way to fast and heat from the ground was giving me fits. I was all over the place. By then I figured that I had scared the runway into submission and I applied power and climbed out with out any other trouble. I went around and did it again but toke power out sooner on finial and crossed the end at about 80mph. Things were still a little rough but we stayed on centerline. It floated further than I wanted but I managed to plant her real solid on the runway and roll out with room to spare. (3200' runway) I'm a pretty happy guy right now and it is more a feeling of relief. Ya all keep at it The big day is worth it. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:03:34 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: RE: KR> first flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005104200334661@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Congrats Joe! Joachim > [Original Message] > From: Joseph H. Horton > To: ; > Date: 10/19/2005 6:25:32 PM > Subject: KR> first flight > > Life is good. > Forecast was for wind yet today but it dawned clear and calm. I had to > take one of the kids to school today so I was going to be late for work > anyway. I got to the airport around 8:20am and it was still calm. I > called the ground crew and started getting the plane ready. By 9:10 we > had every thing ready and a briefing done. I started her up and let it > warm up a few minutes and taxied to 29 for a high speed taxi first and > then the plan was to come back around and do the flight on the second > run. After a run up and instrument check I called for a high speed taxi > on 29. That was about the end of the flight plan that was laying on the > seat beside me. I gave it about 1/2 throttle to start the roll and then > slowly gave it the rest. the roll and track felt so good that I left the > throttle full a quick scan showed all the numbers good and only a couple > seconds latter she leaped from the runway. I had to only correct for a > very slight wing drop and she was climbing at 90 mph and somewhere around > 1000' per minute. Pitch was absolutely a non issue and the roll response > was rock steady. I was at pattern altitude about a 1/4 mile off the > runway end, at 2000' on crosswind and 3000' while turning downwind. I > leveled off at 3000' and just settled in. All the temps stayed low. 300 > deg. was the highest cylinder in climb. oil was 175 deg. and exhaust was > around 1150 deg. I worked on slow flight and into power off stalls but > did not take her to a full stall. I just wanted to get the out side > picture in my head. > I did a little bit of full throttle but backed off at 140 mph indicated. > I saw that the wind was starting to move on the ground so I > worked my way down to pattern and went for a landing. I nailed the > numbers for speed and decent on pattern. 90 downwind, 80 x-wind and > turned finial feeling pretty good. The glide lights were good, looked at > the speed and it had jumped to 110 mph. I stayed with it down to the > threshold and I was way to fast and heat from the ground was giving me > fits. I was all over the place. By then I figured that I had scared the > runway into submission and I applied power and climbed out with out any > other trouble. I went around and did it again but toke power out sooner > on finial and crossed the end at about 80mph. Things were still a little > rough but we stayed on centerline. It floated further than I wanted but I > managed to plant her real solid on the runway and roll out with room to > spare. (3200' runway) > I'm a pretty happy guy right now and it is more a feeling of relief. Ya > all keep at it The big day is worth it. > > Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:14:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: RE: KR> Windshield To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051020001413.40763.qmail@web81701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 larry severson wrote: As of a year ago, the Dragonfly canopy was made in Gardena, California. They supplied it to Slipstream, but I picked up mine at the factory. I will try to find my receipt tomorrow. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com Hi Larry, can you post it? I am about ready to get one. I live right down the road from you. If there is a local pick-up available, I 'd like that. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:17:13 -0700 From: "John Bouyea" Subject: KR> Steve Jones tribute To: "KRNet" Message-ID: <004e01c5d50b$9ed0fca0$0201a8c0@dell4600> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark, I just caught up with my email and read the recent Newsletter digests. I too am saddened to hear about the "Fixer Jones" accident. He was a great guy. I enjoyed meeting him at Sun 'N Fun 2004 and talking with him last year at the Gathering. I put a nice photo of Steve on my home page from the S&F 2004 event. Anyone is welcome to make copy if you are so inclined. I will get a check off to the memorial fund tomorrow. Thanks for organizing it, Mark. God Speed Steve. John Bouyea http://www.bouyea.net ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 19:19:35 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> first flight To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <001301c5d50b$f3805e80$1fca5844@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Joe, A very good description of what read as a very good flight. Was this a first flight? Congratulations, and thanks for sharing. I hope to have a similar report next spring. Ray Goree raybeth123@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joachim Saupe" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: RE: KR> first flight > Congrats Joe! > Joachim > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Joseph H. Horton >> To: ; >> Date: 10/19/2005 6:25:32 PM >> Subject: KR> first flight >>, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:38:04 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: RE: KR> Windshield To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20051019173554.0254d168@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dragonfly, etc. canopies Aircraft Windshield Co 10871 Kyle St. Los Alamitos, CA 90720-2410 (562) 430-8108 Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:35:11 -0400 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Windshield To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20051019212714.01e2d7e0@mail.peoplepc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:38 AM 10/19/2005, you wrote: >Dan Heath wrote: > > > My best advise to anyone thinking of forming their own windshield, is go > > have as many Heineken as it takes to make you forget that thought. > >I too entertained thoughts of making my own canopy. What got me off of that >idea was Don Reid's comment "the best thing I can say about the many >attempts to make my own canopy is that I never completely suceeded in >burning my house down in the process", or something to that affect. That is almost exactly what I said and it is true. Making your own canopy with an oven and molded plexi is not something that anyone should want to try. Uniform temperature is extremely important and I did not have it. It is cheaper to buy one already made by someone who knows what they are doing. On a different note, I am ready to put on the final paint on the fuselage bottom and I should get that done before the weather turns too cold. The remainder of paint will come in the spring. This winter will be finishing all of the little system stuff. I am on a waiting list for a hanger and it looks promising that one will be available in the spring at the airport closest to me. Don Reid - donreid "at" peoplepc.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program: http://aerofoilengineering.com KR2XL construction: http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/KR2XL.htm Aviation Surplus: http://aerofoilengineering.com/PartsListing/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA Regional Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 418 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================