From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 419 Date: 10/19/2005 9:00:16 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Windshield (Mark Langford) 2. Re: first flight (Steven Phillabaum) 3. Re: Re: KR> Windshield (Steven Phillabaum) 4. RE: Engine Ads (Brian Kraut) 5. To Joe ! (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 6. Re:> first flight (Joseph H. Horton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:51:42 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Windshield To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <036101c5d518$de30aaf0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Don Reid wrote: > I am on a waiting list for a hanger and it looks promising that one > will be > available in the spring at the airport closest to me. Better hurry up! They told me it'd be a year or two, and 2 months later (when I dropped by and asked) they said they had two empty! You gotta watch 'em. Something else I meant to say in that post was that if YOU couldn't manage to make a canopy, I certainly wasn't gonna try it. I got another hour in this afternoon, and tomorrow I'm either going to fly up to Troy Petteway's for some "Special High Intensity Training" on landings, or to my father's farm again. I've notified the powers-that-be that I'll be gone tomorrow afternoon... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:53:29 -0400 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: KR> first flight To: KRnet Message-ID: <4enjt4$1go61ca@mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 AUsome +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > From: "Joseph H. Horton" > Date: 2005/10/19 Wed PM 07:22:37 EDT > To: krnet@mylist.net, corvaircraft@mylist.net > Subject: KR> first flight > > Life is good. > Forecast was for wind yet today but it dawned clear and calm. I had to > take one of the kids to school today so I was going to be late for > work anyway. I got to the airport around 8:20am and it was still calm. > I called the ground crew and started getting the plane ready. By 9:10 > we had every thing ready and a briefing done. I started her up and let > it warm up a few minutes and taxied to 29 for a high speed taxi first > and then the plan was to come back around and do the flight on the > second run. After a run up and instrument check I called for a high > speed taxi on 29. That was about the end of the flight plan that was > laying on the seat beside me. I gave it about 1/2 throttle to start > the roll and then slowly gave it the rest. the roll and track felt so > good that I left the throttle full a quick scan showed all the numbers > good and only a couple seconds latter she leaped from the runway. I > had to only correct for a very slight wing drop and she was climbing > at 90 mph and somewhere around 1000' per minute. Pitch was absolutely > a non issue and the roll response was rock steady. I was at pattern > altitude about a 1/4 mile off the runway end, at 2000' on crosswind > and 3000' while turning downwind. I leveled off at 3000' and just > settled in. All the temps stayed low. 300 deg. was the highest > cylinder in climb. oil was 175 deg. and exhaust was around 1150 deg. I > worked on slow flight and into power off stalls but did not take her > to a full stall. I just wanted to get the out side picture in my head. > I did a little bit of full throttle but backed off at 140 mph indicated. > I saw that the wind was starting to move on the ground so I > worked my way down to pattern and went for a landing. I nailed the > numbers for speed and decent on pattern. 90 downwind, 80 x-wind and > turned finial feeling pretty good. The glide lights were good, looked > at the speed and it had jumped to 110 mph. I stayed with it down to > the threshold and I was way to fast and heat from the ground was > giving me fits. I was all over the place. By then I figured that I had > scared the runway into submission and I applied power and climbed out > with out any other trouble. I went around and did it again but toke > power out sooner on finial and crossed the end at about 80mph. Things > were still a little rough but we stayed on centerline. It floated > further than I wanted but I managed to plant her real solid on the > runway and roll out with room to spare. (3200' runway) I'm a pretty > happy guy right now and it is more a feeling of relief. Ya all keep at > it The big day is worth it. > > Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:32 -0400 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: Re: KR> Windshield To: KRnet Message-ID: <4ck04t$1j1qkq6@mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Dan Heath wrote: > > > > > My best advise to anyone thinking of forming their own windshield, > > > is go have as many Heineken as it takes to make you forget that > > > thought. > Never planned on forming my own windshield but I did have a many Heineken as it took. Got to love the KRnet Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:19:55 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don't knock Bubba. He is flying a 300 MPH KR now. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:37 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads OHHHHHH GLIDDEN........some day you will come knocking for help or info and I will be so glad to give you the good ole Bubba answer. :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Glidden" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads > Brian > I got more faith in you then that Jones guy doe's I'll take two of > them for > my twin engine KR I'm building... > > Bob Glidden > Eminence,Indiana > KR2S N181FW (building) > Corvair 110 > glidden@ccrtc.com > > --- > --- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:39:58 EDT From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: KR> To Joe ! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Congratulations Joe on a well deserved First flight! All the work is worth it. Life worth living is best lived to the fullest and I think the KR people are a part of that. May you have countless hours of safe and fun flying to come. Hope to see you again soon. Bill ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:46:30 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> Re:> first flight To: corvaircraft@mylist.net,krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051019.234631.2432.3.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > All that in a Pietenpol and you did what? > > "I saw that the wind was starting to move on the ground" > > You can see the wind! wind sock you silly boy > > That is as bad as my wife "hearing footprints". we speak the same language > > good work! > > Chris > Yea, I know I left out a lot of details but hey I only had 5 min. to get a message written. Any way to fill in some of the details: Plane -- KR2S-- tri gear Engine-- 3100 cc corvair carb-- 38 mm aerocarb empty weight-- 724# prop-- Sterba 58 x 64 highest RPM in flight today--- 3250 flight duration -- 37 min. And for all the guys that have said that their first landings were their best -- I sure hope that I don't have to claim that because I'm pretty sure that I beat the runway into submission. No , I didn't have to go back and clean anything off the runway either. As for things I need to do it is a fairly short list right now. A rudder trim tab is needed to reduce work load. Airspeed seems to indicate about 8 mph faster than the gps. The nose wheel shimmied on landing, but I think that was more a function of the speed and force that we hit the ground at. I need to adjust the gain on the hot mic of the radio. The last one that concerns me the most is a vibration that I had that did not show up until in flight and is definitely rpm related. I will try rotating the prop 180 deg first. Things I loved -- This is the first lane that I have flown with a stick between the legs and I was instantly comfortable with it. I did not have to think about what I wanted to do it just seemed natural. The power the engine produces is nothing short of incredible. The jumps in air speed could be 20 or 30 mph in just seconds. Climb was the same way - a 300'/min decent can be turned into a 500'/min climb in just seconds. The plane is rock solid in pitch and roll. I didn't do much and certainly was not aggressive but when a turn was made it stayed on altitude and bank with only rudder needed to keep the ball centered. Yet the plane is extremely responsive. The flying qualities are from the start here everything that I had ever hoped for. The elevator trim is also very sensitive and needed very tiny movement to bring the plane into trim. For those that don't know I have a stock to plans tail feathers with the exception of the incidence which if I remember correctly is about -.7 deg. The wing is the new airfoil at 0 deg (I think) Like others have said before me -- Keep working at your dream- I can not think of a higher achievement in my life that I would not trade for love or money. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 419 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================