From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 436 Date: 10/31/2005 6:10:51 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: "project" update (Doug Rupert) 2. Re: WAF's (Peter Drake) 3. Re: WAF's (Dan Heath) 4. Re: WAF's (patrusso) 5. Attaching foam (Dan Heath) 6. RE: WAF's (Doug Rupert) 7. RE: WAF's (Hauck, John MAJ HHC-37th TRANS) 8. ........glueing foam...... (Jerry Mahurin) 9. WAFS further (Ron Smith) 10. Re: WAFS further (danrh@alltel.net) 11. RE: WAF's (Ronald R.Eason) 12. RE: WAFS further (Jim Payne) 13. Re: RE: KR> WAFS further (danrh@alltel.net) 14. EAA Memorial for Steve Jones (Mark Jones) 15. Re: EAA Memorial for Steve Jones (danrh@alltel.net) 16. Re: Folding Wing option (Phil Matheson) 17. Re: Folding Wing option (Jeff Scott) 18. Re: Folding Wing option (hussein nagy) 19. Re: WAFS further (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 20. Re: Folding Wing option (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 21. Re: WAFS further (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 22. W & B dilemma (Dan Heath) 23. Third Flight-the good the bad the ugly (Joseph H. Horton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:11:56 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> "project" update To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002a01c5ddd9$a0497ea0$7804e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" John Get back to me off list. Hawks have to talk Doug Rupert drupert@sympatico.ca 519-426-2178 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:24:27 -0000 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> WAF's To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00a301c5de05$460d59d0$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Should you varnish the wood before sticking foam to it? I would have thought it might not bond so well with a layer of varnish in between. Peter Drake Hereford England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: KR> WAF's > At a minimum you should seal the wood with spar varnish. > Orma > Southfield, MI > KR-2 N110LR 1984 > See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com > See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > --- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:29:07 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> WAF's To: Message-ID: <4365F1F3.000008.00852@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Your thought is correct, resin, at least epoxy, does not play well with Varnish. If there is an area you are going to have to put glass on, do not use varnish. You can always coat the wood with some resin. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is over. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- I would have thought it might not bond so well with a layer of varnish in between. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:25:55 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> WAF's To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c5de0d$dc1f3120$d1a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Good point Peter. We were discussing the area directly under the WAF. For sticking foam to wood, the wood must first be coated. My procedure is to brush on a coat of resin where the foam will be attached, use your squeegee to remove all but the lightest coat, putting the excess back into the mixing cup then mixing the excess with micro and with this, butter the foam where it contacts the wood, then pin in place. An alternative to the buttering step, is to run an even bead of minimal expanding foam along the edge of the foam board and pin in place against the still wet resin. The later method worked the best for me. After sanding the finished glue joint, I found gaps here and there as well as air pockets in the expanded foam. These were squeegeed over with a dry-ish micro mix. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Drake" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 5:24 AM Subject: Re: KR> WAF's > Should you varnish the wood before sticking foam to it? I would have > thought > it might not bond so well with a layer of varnish in between. > Peter Drake > Hereford England > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Orma" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:44 PM > Subject: Re: KR> WAF's > > >> At a minimum you should seal the wood with spar varnish. Orma >> Southfield, MI >> KR-2 N110LR 1984 >> See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com >> See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> --- >> >> > > --- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 07:00:34 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Attaching foam To: Message-ID: <43660762.000001.03032@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I avoid expanding foam at all cost. It never stops expanding. There are many other ways to attach foam. Hot glue is one of them. Let your resin covering cure, then attach your foam. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is over. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- An alternative to the buttering step, is to run an even bead of minimal expanding foam along the edge of the foam board and pin in place against the still wet resin. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:57:29 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> WAF's To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000601c5de23$0c1fcf00$3004e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" John: Do you ever stay home? Where is home base and are you Sr or Junior? Doug Rupert By the way, I am stationed in Kuwait, and have not had a chance to select an aircraft to build yet Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for the KR-2? John -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:23:49 +0300 From: "Hauck, John MAJ HHC-37th TRANS" Subject: RE: KR> WAF's To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Doug: I have only been with my wife for one out of the last four years. My home base is in Germany. I have been there since 2003. Before that I was gone two and a half years, including 9 months in Macedonia. As far as being a jr or sr., I have no adjunct names. I am originally from Wisconsin. John -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+john.hauck=arifjan.arcent.army.mil@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+john.hauck=arifjan.arcent.army.mil@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Doug Rupert Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:57 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> WAF's John: Do you ever stay home? Where is home base and are you Sr or Junior? Doug Rupert By the way, I am stationed in Kuwait, and have not had a chance to select an aircraft to build yet Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for the KR-2? John -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/146 - Release Date: 10/21/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:57:10 -0500 From: Jerry Mahurin Subject: KR> ........glueing foam...... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <3812d7480510310757h5ecd0abdx251f427748586cb4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ...............the foam has to be held in place only temporarily. After the fiberglass is laid over the outside the attachment becomes permanent. The hot glue works fine; and you use only dabs and strips. Do not coat the whole surface.........just tack it in place.....below the sanding line. This advice is worth what you paid for it, -- Jerry Mahurin - aka - KRJerry Lugoff, SC 29078 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:14:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> WAFS further To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <20051031171434.28648.qmail@web81708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 So I was thinking of drilling all the WAF holes and coating the surface with aeropoxy, also the bolts (not the threads) and assembling while uncured. This would cement the WAF to the spar. Is there anything wrong with this method? Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:21:27 -0600 From: Subject: Re: KR> WAFS further To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051031172127.PDUJ12191.ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds good to me. From: Ron Smith Date: 2005/10/31 Mon AM 11:14:34 CST To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR> WAFS further So I was thinking of drilling all the WAF holes and coating the surface with aeropoxy, also the bolts (not the threads) and assembling while uncured. This would cement the WAF to the spar. Is there anything wrong with this method? Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:28:58 -0600 From: "Ronald R.Eason" Subject: RE: KR> WAF's To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <007201c5de40$93dc51d0$6601a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I used urethane varnish at first and then polyurethane adhesive [Elmer's or Gallia glue] they work well together with epoxy resin. I have been using polyurethane adhesive alone with safety poxy resin. KRron -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+ron=jrl-engineering.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+ron=jrl-engineering.com@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Peter Drake Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:24 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF's Should you varnish the wood before sticking foam to it? I would have thought it might not bond so well with a layer of varnish in between. Peter Drake Hereford England ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: Re: KR> WAF's > At a minimum you should seal the wood with spar varnish. > Orma > Southfield, MI > KR-2 N110LR 1984 > See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com > See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > --- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:40:03 -0500 From: "Jim Payne" Subject: RE: KR> WAFS further To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <200510311740.j9VHe4b8019165@ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone ever damaged a WAF and needed to replace it? That's the only reason I can think cementing might not be a good idea. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+jim=manufacturingconcepts.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+jim=manufacturingconcepts.com@mylist.net] On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:21 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAFS further Sounds good to me. From: Ron Smith Date: 2005/10/31 Mon AM 11:14:34 CST To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR> WAFS further So I was thinking of drilling all the WAF holes and coating the surface with aeropoxy, also the bolts (not the threads) and assembling while uncured. This would cement the WAF to the spar. Is there anything wrong with this method? Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:48:34 -0600 From: Subject: Re: RE: KR> WAFS further To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051031174834.ZBMC18995.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'll bet it would just pop right off. Putting on the WAF before the resin cures will insure a smooth even fit. However, I am sure that your results will vary. From: "Jim Payne" Date: 2005/10/31 Mon AM 11:40:03 CST To: "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR> WAFS further Anyone ever damaged a WAF and needed to replace it? That's the only reason I can think cementing might not be a good idea. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+jim=manufacturingconcepts.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+jim=manufacturingconcepts.com@mylist.net] On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:21 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAFS further Sounds good to me. From: Ron Smith Date: 2005/10/31 Mon AM 11:14:34 CST To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR> WAFS further So I was thinking of drilling all the WAF holes and coating the surface with aeropoxy, also the bolts (not the threads) and assembling while uncured. This would cement the WAF to the spar. Is there anything wrong with this method? Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:58:07 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> EAA Memorial for Steve Jones To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C10275@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" NOTE: RESPOND ONLY TO flykr2s@wi.rr.com This request is ONLY for those who donated to the memorial and you know who you are: I will be submitting the information to EAA for Steve's Memorial Wall plaque soon. The plaque will be two lines as follows: Steven W. Jones 1955-2005 ____________________________ The second line consists of 28 characters total which includes any spaces, dashes, punctuations, etc...... I am asking for input from you, who made a donation, as to what the second line should say. Remember: RESPOND ONLY TO flykr2s@wi.rr.com. Thanks, Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:56:21 -0600 From: Subject: Re: KR> EAA Memorial for Steve Jones To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051031185621.DEGC6445.ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 N212KR - Turbo Corvair - KR2 From: "Mark Jones" Date: 2005/10/31 Mon AM 11:58:07 CST To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Subject: KR> EAA Memorial for Steve Jones NOTE: RESPOND ONLY TO flykr2s@wi.rr.com This request is ONLY for those who donated to the memorial and you know who you are: I will be submitting the information to EAA for Steve's Memorial Wall plaque soon. The plaque will be two lines as follows: Steven W. Jones 1955-2005 ____________________________ The second line consists of 28 characters total which includes any spaces, dashes, punctuations, etc...... I am asking for input from you, who made a donation, as to what the second line should say. Remember: RESPOND ONLY TO flykr2s@wi.rr.com. Thanks, Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:05:18 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wing option To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004801c5de5e$ccb9fc00$6b82443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1250"; reply-type=original Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for the KR-2? John ---------------------------- I have a few photo's of a folding wing brackets. My web page has had heart failure ( Netscape) But I can email to you direct if required. Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://corvair.vw-engines.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:14:02 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wing option To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051031.141415.4954.109058@webmail05.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain John, Take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/katkinson/ for Ken Atkinson's British KR with easily detachable wings that allows it to be easily stored in a small trailer. Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for the KR-2? John ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:21:12 -0800 (PST) From: hussein nagy Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wing option To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051101012112.36261.qmail@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Phil, Can you email me too, I am iterested in folding wing mechanism. Thanks a lot, Nagy --- Phil Matheson wrote: > Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for > the KR-2? > > John > ---------------------------- > > I have a few photo's of a folding wing brackets. My > web page has had heart > failure ( Netscape) > But I can email to you direct if required. > > Phil Matheson > mathesonp@dodo.com.au > VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) > 61 3 58833588 > Australia.( Down Under) > See My KR2 Building Web Page at: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html > See our VW Engines and Home built web page at > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > http://corvair.vw-engines.com/ > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html nagy hussein __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:22:58 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> WAFS further To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051031.202858.288.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A damaged WAF would also result in a damaged spar, Rebuild, Virg On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:40:03 -0500 "Jim Payne" writes: > Anyone ever damaged a WAF and needed to replace it? That's the only > reason I > can think cementing might not be a good idea. > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces+jim=manufacturingconcepts.com@mylist.net > [mailto:krnet-bounces+jim=manufacturingconcepts.com@mylist.net] On > Behalf Of > danrh@alltel.net > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:21 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> WAFS further > > Sounds good to me. > From: Ron Smith > Date: 2005/10/31 Mon AM 11:14:34 CST > To: "krnet@mylist.net" > Subject: KR> WAFS further > > So I was thinking of drilling all the WAF holes and coating the > surface with > aeropoxy, also the bolts (not the threads) and assembling while > uncured. > This would cement the WAF to the spar. > > Is there anything wrong with this method? > > > Ron Smith > Kr2ssxl > Cypress Ca U.S.A. > mercedesmann@yahoo.com > http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:28:22 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wing option To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051031.202858.288.4.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 In the past did the COL have something ?? Virg On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:05:18 +1100 "Phil Matheson" writes: > Have you any knowledge of a folding wing option for the KR-2? > > John > ---------------------------- > > I have a few photo's of a folding wing brackets. My web page has had > heart > failure ( Netscape) > But I can email to you direct if required. > > Phil Matheson > mathesonp@dodo.com.au > VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) > 61 3 58833588 > Australia.( Down Under) > See My KR2 Building Web Page at: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html > See our VW Engines and Home built web page at > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > http://corvair.vw-engines.com/ > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:20:57 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> WAFS further To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051031.202858.288.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, Virg On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:14:34 -0800 (PST) Ron Smith writes: > So I was thinking of drilling all the WAF holes and coating the > surface with aeropoxy, also the bolts (not the threads) and > assembling while uncured. This would cement the WAF to the spar. > > Is there anything wrong with this method? > > > Ron Smith > Kr2ssxl > Cypress Ca U.S.A. > mercedesmann@yahoo.com > http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:09:46 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> W & B dilemma To: Message-ID: <4366CE6A.00000C.02532@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jerry and I have a dilemma. Our WB gave us very conflicting results with each scenario that we performed. It had Jerry weighing 35 pounds and me weighing 37 pounds different from the empty weight. You guys, WHO HAVE DONE THIS, what did you use to weigh your planes? We are using 2 bathroom scales with a board over them under each wheel and one under the tail. The tail weights are consistant and are reasonable, but the other ones are all over the place. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is over. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 21:08:12 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> Third Flight-the good the bad the ugly To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051031.210813.680.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey no cheating by reading the end first to see if I survive. Got to the hanger at 5:30 am and started the engine preheater. The outside temp was about 35 deg. While it was warming up I went to the office for a few minutes and returned a little after 6 am. I finished up a through preflight and pulled her out. I fired her up and the oil temp showed 75 deg. I figured this won't take long to warm up from there and being the smart guy I think I am running the engine at 800 to 1100 rpm should speed up the warming. Wrong - after abut 3 min. the temp had dropped to 60 deg. So I dropped the rpm's back to idle and the temp's started the slow climb back up as I just let it idle me along a slow taxi to 29. At 29 we did the run up temps had climbed to normal and the check list was done (yep the canopy is latched this time) I gave it some throttle and after starting the roll I firewalled it and adjusted rudder control. We were off the ground pretty quick in the cold air and settled at a smooth and steady 90 mph climb. This time I seemed to have time to monitor instruments and the speed remained constant and the VSI locked on 1300'/min. and stayed there until leveling out at 2500' while just turning cross wind. I was able to set up for level flight pretty easily this time. The throttle was set at 2500 rpm and the airspeed settled on 145 mph. I looked at the gps and that was showing 165 ground speed. I was on down wind by this time and had leaned out to a little over 1100 deg exhaust temps. I was trying to get a big box around the airport of about 3 to 4 miles wide and about 8 miles long. I was holding the altitude pretty close and just used shallow turns around base to upwind. Some where in here I had lost track of the airspeed and when I looked I was doing 160 mph and a quick look at the gps indicated 138 mph. I reduced throttle a couple hundred rpm's and settled back to 145 airspeed. I did not have to do anything with pitch at this point either. The reason that I lost track of some things was I was playing with the rudder and the slip indicator. Keeping the ball centered is a challenge right now and needed constant attention. I made a another lap around the track while just learning little things here and there. We did start to steepen some turns up a little and I found that right turns are going to take more practice than left. I still have a little vibration that is bothering me although it was not the same as first flight. By now I was on my way around for the third time and I could see my house about 5 miles to the north and I just couldn't help myself from heading up and circling over once. I had to drop down below 2200 to get below the ABE control area over my house. I was there in no time and just did one turn. I thought maybe the kids would be out for the school bus but I was to early. I headed back towards the airport and decided I had ought to go to work. I leveled out at 1500 and entered upwind. Things went fine with down wind at 100 mph base at 90 and finial about 85with a green light. Centerline was right on and the glide light was good. I crossed the numbers at maybe 50' high but the speed just didn't go away. This is where things went to crap. I tried to just hold steady and fly it on to the runway. And that is exactly what happened. I hit the ground with the mains and nose wheel at the same time and it bounced up about 10 to 15 feet with a little right yaw and a few feet off center line. I corrected the yaw and center line problems quickly and held steady on the stick figuring that it would fly and settle down when she was ready. Again I was outsmarted and she slammed down again, not as hard and not has hard on the nose. Back up we go again for the second time. I've had enough by now and wanted to go around but she treated me to one more just to let me know who was in charge. I got her firewalled and she started to climb out again like she just wanted to be in the air. I went through the pattern again and set up for a longer glide on finial and one big difference was that I was below the glide slope all the way in. This gave me a much more shallow glide slope at touch down. I had a much better handle on the speed also. I managed to stay calm through it all and had the best landing to date. The speed on finial is something that has to be mastered and I am starting to question if I should have cleaned the plane all up with fairings and seals before I flew it. It just builds speed so fast. I need to learn to stay on top of it way better. One of the impacts was over 4 G's and I will check the gear and engine mount out completely before I go again My attitude may be coming across as caviler, but be assured that I trying to very through for every step I'm taking. This plane flies wonderful and it is everything that I dreamed of. Yall keep building- This is the adventure of a life time. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 436 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================