From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 471 Date: 11/18/2005 11:29:44 AM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: KR> GPS (danrh@alltel.net) 2. RE: Re: KR> GPS (Steve Glover) 3. Re: R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 4. Re: MARKS CORVAIR ENGINE (Scott William) 5. Re: GPS (Mark Langford) 6. Re: Re: KR> GPS (Mark Langford) 7. Re: MARKS CORVAIR ENGINE (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 8. RE: Re: KR> GPS (Steve Glover) 9. RE: GPS (Steve Glover) 10. saturn engines (ken) 11. RE: Re: KR> GPS (hussein nagy) 12. RE: saturn engines (Stephen Teate) 13. Re: GPS (JSMONDAY@aol.com) 14. RE: Re: KR> GPS (Steve Glover) 15. Re: GPS (Mark Langford) 16. Re: MARKS CORVAIR ENGINE (Scott William) 17. Re: Off Topic. Furniture (Ron Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 9:06:13 -0600 From: Subject: Re: Re: KR> GPS To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051118150613.NUPA18995.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks, I wish I had known all that before spending $600 on the system. I already had a PDA, so figured I would get the best bang for the buck. I am also very disgusted with their flight planning software that runs on the desktop. From: "Mark Langford" Date: 2005/11/18 Fri AM 06:54:31 CST To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> GPS Dan Heath wrote: > Before you decide what to get, you should check out this one. I am > only posting this for you to have another option. > http://anywheremap.com/ AnywhereMap is famous for being the cat's meow for handheld PDAs, and for that purpose, I'm sure it's great. But in a PDA you have a teeny little screen that's hard to see (but it's far better than nothing), so AnywhereMap is fairly low resolution. For example, due to limited memory of PDAs, the database has no rivers, only big lakes, and cities are rather blocky, with only major highways shown. They now have what they call AnywhereMap XP, designed for running on notebooks, tablets, and laptops, which I ASSumed was a higher resolution version for Windows based computers. While the display is somewhat higher resolution, it uses the same low res database, so you get no rivers. I noticed this in about 5 seconds as I looked for Huntsville on their US map. I had a hard time finding it because the Tennessee river was missing! So I punched in M38, my home airport, and it said "not in database". Now that worries me. What if you're flying along and your crankshaft breaks, and you push the "nearest airport" button, and the one right under you doesn't happen to be in the database? Not a good thing. And it turns out that many of the features of the PDA version aren't yet implemented in the XP version, and the "help" files just plain don't work. Given that the instruction manual is about 10 pages long, help files would be helpful! I read complaints on the web that the stuff wasn't ready for prime time, but since they were a year or so old, I figured it was fixed by now. It's not. Couple that with the fact that they sold me a Haicom GPS that you could buy for $100 anywhere else, for $250 (it had an AnywhereMap sticker stuck to the other side, which made it more valuable, I guess), and I was pretty disgusted with my purchase. It went back in the box and back to them two weeks ago, and I'm still waiting for them to credit my credit card account. This stuff is fine for PDA's (so I'm told), but don't think you'll be happy with the laptop version. I haven't mentioned what I'm using yet, because I haven't fully tested it and can't swear by it, but I'll give a full report when I do. Basically it's a TPad 800 remote display, which is daylight readable, and 6" wide by 9" tall, mounted to the panel, dead center and right in front of my face. It's so tall it only misses the canopy by half an inch. It's hooked to my laptop, which is running Flightprep's "Chart Case" (supported by KRnet's own John Bouyeau), which is pretty awsome stuff. You have various modes of moving map, including overlayed on top of the current sectional. All of this is connected to a $100 Garmin 18 USB GPS plugged into the laptop, which came with free street mapping GPS software, so I can also use the laptop in the car on trips. The beauty of this system is that it cost me $1400 (no, that's not the beautiful part), but that when it becomes obsolete, I don't have to go out and buy another $2500 GPS box, I just buy new software. But ChartCase has regular updates, so that's not going to happen anytime soon. I basically have a full powered computer sitting on my panel. I carry a laptop anyway to collect EIS (Engine Information System) data anyway, so I might as well use it. Next improvement will be to replace the laptop with a "car PC", a little box that's about $300, and is a full-featured PC set up for 12V. I'll have to buy an "industrial hard drive" that is altitude compensated (hard drives tend to crash over 10,000'), which will drive the price to $600, but it's smaller and more rugged than the laptop, and can be permanently mounted in the plane. So I've got $2500 in a killer huge screen color GPS setup, that's not going obsolete anytime soon, a far better value for my money than a Garmin 396. Oh, and it does weather and terrain too (although I'm not up for the $30 a month WX weather subscription yet). Not as good a price as what Mark Jones has (that's hard to beat), but with better functionality and readability (although admittedly not 25x more functionality or readability!). Another alternative is a tablet PC. There are a couple (more on that later) that are daylight readable, but they are just plain bigger than will fit on my panel. I'll do a full report on this system when I have it up and running, but so far, the flight planning and GPS stuff works great! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:18:57 -0800 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: Re: KR> GPS To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000f01c5ec53$68644690$0202a8c0@IntelliSpec> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No Kidding? I carry my laptop on trips because it is easier for me to flight plan. I think the software just takes a learning curve. Once you learn the tricks it is actually pretty fast and easy. The "Find an Airport" button can be confusion because depending on which screen you are on, you either have to enter the 3 or 4 digit identifier or airport name. Unless I'm sure, I always use airport name and select from the list. I'll jump to that airport to see the area and determine what facilities are available. This is mainly for long trips. Unless I know where I intend on making my stops, I'll just plot the course direct and then view the entire route. That way I can see if there are any restricted areas or MOAs. The ruberbanding feature allows you to drag and drop your course line to wherever you want. If you get it in the approximate location of an airport on your route and want to make it a waypoint, just double click on the airport and hit the button that makes it a waypoint. Most of the time it eliminated the user way point created with the drag and drop. If not, you can go into the flight plan window and delete that leg. I know it sounds like a lot but it is actually pretty fast once you learn it. I think it is much more versatile than the other units out there but is definitely not the easiest to use. Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+kr02g=cox.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+kr02g=cox.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:06 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: Re: KR> GPS Thanks, I wish I had known all that before spending $600 on the system. I already had a PDA, so figured I would get the best bang for the buck. I am also very disgusted with their flight planning software that runs on the desktop. From: "Mark Langford" Date: 2005/11/18 Fri AM 06:54:31 CST To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> GPS Dan Heath wrote: > Before you decide what to get, you should check out this one. I am > only posting this for you to have another option. > http://anywheremap.com/ AnywhereMap is famous for being the cat's meow for handheld PDAs, and for that purpose, I'm sure it's great. But in a PDA you have a teeny little screen that's hard to see (but it's far better than nothing), so AnywhereMap is fairly low resolution. For example, due to limited memory of PDAs, the database has no rivers, only big lakes, and cities are rather blocky, with only major highways shown. They now have what they call AnywhereMap XP, designed for running on notebooks, tablets, and laptops, which I ASSumed was a higher resolution version for Windows based computers. While the display is somewhat higher resolution, it uses the same low res database, so you get no rivers. I noticed this in about 5 seconds as I looked for Huntsville on their US map. I had a hard time finding it because the Tennessee river was missing! So I punched in M38, my home airport, and it said "not in database". Now that worries me. What if you're flying along and your crankshaft breaks, and you push the "nearest airport" button, and the one right under you doesn't happen to be in the database? Not a good thing. And it turns out that many of the features of the PDA version aren't yet implemented in the XP version, and the "help" files just plain don't work. Given that the instruction manual is about 10 pages long, help files would be helpful! I read complaints on the web that the stuff wasn't ready for prime time, but since they were a year or so old, I figured it was fixed by now. It's not. Couple that with the fact that they sold me a Haicom GPS that you could buy for $100 anywhere else, for $250 (it had an AnywhereMap sticker stuck to the other side, which made it more valuable, I guess), and I was pretty disgusted with my purchase. It went back in the box and back to them two weeks ago, and I'm still waiting for them to credit my credit card account. This stuff is fine for PDA's (so I'm told), but don't think you'll be happy with the laptop version. I haven't mentioned what I'm using yet, because I haven't fully tested it and can't swear by it, but I'll give a full report when I do. Basically it's a TPad 800 remote display, which is daylight readable, and 6" wide by 9" tall, mounted to the panel, dead center and right in front of my face. It's so tall it only misses the canopy by half an inch. It's hooked to my laptop, which is running Flightprep's "Chart Case" (supported by KRnet's own John Bouyeau), which is pretty awsome stuff. You have various modes of moving map, including overlayed on top of the current sectional. All of this is connected to a $100 Garmin 18 USB GPS plugged into the laptop, which came with free street mapping GPS software, so I can also use the laptop in the car on trips. The beauty of this system is that it cost me $1400 (no, that's not the beautiful part), but that when it becomes obsolete, I don't have to go out and buy another $2500 GPS box, I just buy new software. But ChartCase has regular updates, so that's not going to happen anytime soon. I basically have a full powered computer sitting on my panel. I carry a laptop anyway to collect EIS (Engine Information System) data anyway, so I might as well use it. Next improvement will be to replace the laptop with a "car PC", a little box that's about $300, and is a full-featured PC set up for 12V. I'll have to buy an "industrial hard drive" that is altitude compensated (hard drives tend to crash over 10,000'), which will drive the price to $600, but it's smaller and more rugged than the laptop, and can be permanently mounted in the plane. So I've got $2500 in a killer huge screen color GPS setup, that's not going obsolete anytime soon, a far better value for my money than a Garmin 396. Oh, and it does weather and terrain too (although I'm not up for the $30 a month WX weather subscription yet). Not as good a price as what Mark Jones has (that's hard to beat), but with better functionality and readability (although admittedly not 25x more functionality or readability!). Another alternative is a tablet PC. There are a couple (more on that later) that are daylight readable, but they are just plain bigger than will fit on my panel. I'll do a full report on this system when I have it up and running, but so far, the flight planning and GPS stuff works great! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:57:22 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051118.101921.2584.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Tap into the bottom of the tank for the fuel feed. Tap separatly into the side of the tank for the sight gauge. That should correct the problem, Virg On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:48:20 +0100 Serge VIDAL writes: > Yes, I know. But despite having increased the diameter of the lines, > and > despite this defying logics somehow, it eeps happening. Low on my > list of > priorities, so I will give it a thought some day... but not now! > > Serge > > > > > > VIRGIL N SALISBURY > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 11/17/2005 17:04 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 11/17/2005 20:54 > > > Pour : krnet@mylist.net > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods > > > > The problem is drawing fuel from the sight gauge rather than > from > the tank and loosing > fuel feed, Virg > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:37:15 +0100 Serge VIDAL > > writes: > > I agree. I believe this is the source of my problem with my sight > > > gauge > > (it has a serious lag, and then a sudden drop). > > > > Serge Vidal > > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > > Paris, France > > > > > > > > > > > > VIRGIL N SALISBURY > > > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > > 2005-11-17 15:51 > > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > > Remis le : 2005-11-17 16:32 > > > > > > Pour : krnet@mylist.net > > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > > Objet : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods > > > > > > > > However, Do NOT use a "T" at the bottom of the tank. Use > > SEPARATE openings for the sight gauge and the feed, Virg > > > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:24:05 -0800 (PST) Frank Ross > > > > writes: > > > --- Colin Rainey > > > wrote: > > > I will transfer fuel to the header for use, > > > > keeping the fuel system simple and mods minimal. > > > > > > > Colin Rainey > > > > > > Colin, > > > Howard Kaiser's KR-2 in the Phoenix area (80s - 90s) > > > had a simple rubber-bulb, squeeze-type fuel pump from > > > a boat under the pilot's legs to transfer fuel from > > > the wing tanks to the header tank. > > > Worked very well, but too busy for me. > > > Of course this could be adapted to take advantage of > > > the "pucker-factor" but you have to make sure you > > > don't over-fill the header tank in that case... > > > Header tank fuel "gauge" was the old tube from the top > > > of the header tank, out through the panel, down > > > vertically to the bottom of the panel and back into > > > the header tank. Also worked well, requiring no > > > electricity. > > > Simple and VERY reliable. > > > FWIW > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > Frank Ross, > > > EAA Chapter 35, > > > San Geronimo, TX > > > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > > > Visit my photo album at: > > > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL > > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury > > Miami ,Fl > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury > Miami ,Fl > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:21:30 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: Re: KR> MARKS CORVAIR ENGINE To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051118152130.24623.qmail@web31512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Mark Langford wrote: > Everything > I've ever read on oil temp > says that oil needs to get above 212F to boil off > water vapor. This is one critical area. The other is the breakdown temp of the oil, and the modern dino-lubes don't break down until 260 - 270 degrees. Synthetic is much higher, but as I'm sure you're aware, the synthetics don't work well with the leaded fuels. Air cooled motorcycles with dry sump systems routinely see 260deg oil temps...not a big deal. Scott 25 degrees > isn't that much higher than 212. I'm picking up oil > temps at the hottest > place in the engine, right after the oil pump sucks > it out of the pan, > unlike some folks who get it after the cooler. > > The weather's supposed to be great this weekend, and > I'm planning on flying > to LA for Thanksgiving (Lower Alabama)... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:56:18 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> GPS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01a701c5ec58$9f7aceb0$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Steve Glover wrote: > I have the High Res database in my AnywhereMap PDA. It has all roads, > rivers, lakes, airports, etc. The XP version for my tablet also had > the High Res database. The additional database files have to be > downloaded from AWM's website and installed. That's funny, the 10 page "manual" never mentioned that high res downloadable database (you'd have thought it would have come on the CD), and the tech support guy that I beat up on the phone didn't mention it either, he just apologized for the low resolution, with an explanation that it was ported from the PDA! And I think I read every word in the FAQ. I guess you can have the greatest software in the world, but if your instructions won't tell the poor guy on the other end how to use it, it's not the greatest software in the world. The tech guy did mention that their database was missing airports, apparently due to a problem with their data "harvester". He'd been unaware of that until I told him about it, and further investigation proved it to be true. That alone turned me off, not to mention the resolution and cost of the GPS. The fact that I had to create my airport as a waypoint didn't do much for my confidence in the software. It's good to know that I wasn't completely wrong though, and the $99 price for the software was a bargain, now that I know the resolution isn't so crappy. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:01:25 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: Re: KR> GPS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01b001c5ec59$54406d00$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I still have to say that slapping their sticker on a $100 GPS (retail) and selling it for $250 is nothing short of unscrupulous, and downright unethical. They even left the manufacturer's sticker (with part number) stuck on the other side of the unit, so it's easy to check. In my buisness, we're not allowed by law to mark anything up by more than 15%. That alone cures me of any desire to do any further business with them. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:09:43 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> MARKS CORVAIR ENGINE To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051118.111549.3464.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some synthetics work very well with leaded fuel, Virg On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:21:30 -0800 (PST) Scott William writes: > > > --- Mark Langford wrote: > > > Everything > > I've ever read on oil temp > > says that oil needs to get above 212F to boil off > > water vapor. > > This is one critical area. The other is the breakdown > temp of the oil, and the modern dino-lubes don't break > down until 260 - 270 degrees. Synthetic is much > higher, but as I'm sure you're aware, the synthetics > don't work well with the leaded fuels. > > > Air cooled motorcycles with dry sump systems routinely > see 260deg oil temps...not a big deal. > > > Scott > > > 25 degrees > > isn't that much higher than 212. I'm picking up oil > > temps at the hottest > > place in the engine, right after the oil pump sucks > > it out of the pan, > > unlike some folks who get it after the cooler. > > > > The weather's supposed to be great this weekend, and > > I'm planning on flying > > to LA for Thanksgiving (Lower Alabama)... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > > see KR2S project N56ML at > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:16:40 -0800 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: Re: KR> GPS To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001a01c5ec5b$791b0480$0202a8c0@IntelliSpec> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I still have to say that slapping their sticker on a $100 GPS (retail) and selling it for $250 is nothing short of unscrupulous, and downright unethical. They even left the manufacturer's sticker (with part number) stuck on the other side of the unit, so it's easy to check. In my business, we're not allowed by law to mark anything up by more than 15%. That alone cures me of any desire to do any further business with them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know they did that either since I used my own. I originally had a garmin receiver but didn't like the connections so went with the Bluetooth, which I already had. I agree, that is pretty crappy of them to jack up the prices like that... Steve ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:18:09 -0800 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: KR> GPS To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001b01c5ec5b$ae03a260$0202a8c0@IntelliSpec> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yeah, As I was telling Dan H, I had a big learning curve before I could use it. There is a section in the software that will let you select low, medium and high res terrain and color. I didn't know about the missing airports. I haven't came across that issue yet. Steve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's funny, the 10 page "manual" never mentioned that high res downloadable database (you'd have thought it would have come on the CD), and the tech support guy that I beat up on the phone didn't mention it either, he just apologized for the low resolution, with an explanation that it was ported from the PDA! And I think I read every word in the FAQ. I guess you can have the greatest software in the world, but if your instructions won't tell the poor guy on the other end how to use it, it's not the greatest software in the world. The tech guy did mention that their database was missing airports, apparently due to a problem with their data "harvester". He'd been unaware of that until I told him about it, and further investigation proved it to be true. That alone turned me off, not to mention the resolution and cost of the GPS. The fact that I had to create my airport as a waypoint didn't do much for my confidence in the software. It's good to know that I wasn't completely wrong though, and the $99 price for the software was a bargain, now that I know the resolution isn't so crappy. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:34:03 -0500 (EST) From: "ken" Subject: KR> saturn engines To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051118163403.9C315397B@mprdmxin.myway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" i'm concidering using the new saturn 2.4 dual overhead cam engine it puts out 150hp and wet weight is around 285lbs minus reduction drive has anyone else used an inline motor? other than a little plumbing for the radiator whats the diff to using opposed air cooled also has anyone seen that new motor put out by "dyna-cam" 200hp at 2000 rpm and 600lbs of torque at 1500 rpm! water cooled at 300lbs dry 40 inches by only 30 inches wide for only $30,000 (way out of my price range) i found a company that rewires auto motors for aircraft using the engines comp. but i dont remember what site this was any clues _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://dell.myway.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: hussein nagy Subject: RE: Re: KR> GPS To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051118171749.31191.qmail@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Steve, Can you till what software is this? can you give info on that. I have not finish my KR2 but Collecting the good info from the KRnet to use it whenever need it. Thank you Nagy Jacksonville, Florida Steve Glover wrote: No Kidding? I carry my laptop on trips because it is easier for me to flight plan. I think the software just takes a learning curve. Once you learn the tricks it is actually pretty fast and easy. The "Find an Airport" button can be confusion because depending on which screen you are on, you either have to enter the 3 or 4 digit identifier or airport name. Unless I'm sure, I always use airport name and select from the list. I'll jump to that airport to see the area and determine what facilities are available. This is mainly for long trips. Unless I know where I intend on making my stops, I'll just plot the course direct and then view the entire route. That way I can see if there are any restricted areas or MOAs. The ruberbanding feature allows you to drag and drop your course line to wherever you want. If you get it in the approximate location of an airport on your route and want to make it a waypoint, just double click on the airport and hit the button that makes it a waypoint. Most of the time it eliminated the user way point created with the drag and drop. If not, you can go into the flight plan window and delete that leg. I know it sounds like a lot but it is actually pretty fast once you learn it. I think it is much more versatile than the other units out there but is definitely not the easiest to use. Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+kr02g=cox.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+kr02g=cox.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 7:06 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: Re: KR> GPS Thanks, I wish I had known all that before spending $600 on the system. I already had a PDA, so figured I would get the best bang for the buck. I am also very disgusted with their flight planning software that runs on the desktop. From: "Mark Langford" Date: 2005/11/18 Fri AM 06:54:31 CST To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> GPS Dan Heath wrote: > Before you decide what to get, you should check out this one. I am > only posting this for you to have another option. > http://anywheremap.com/ AnywhereMap is famous for being the cat's meow for handheld PDAs, and for that purpose, I'm sure it's great. But in a PDA you have a teeny little screen that's hard to see (but it's far better than nothing), so AnywhereMap is fairly low resolution. For example, due to limited memory of PDAs, the database has no rivers, only big lakes, and cities are rather blocky, with only major highways shown. They now have what they call AnywhereMap XP, designed for running on notebooks, tablets, and laptops, which I ASSumed was a higher resolution version for Windows based computers. While the display is somewhat higher resolution, it uses the same low res database, so you get no rivers. I noticed this in about 5 seconds as I looked for Huntsville on their US map. I had a hard time finding it because the Tennessee river was missing! So I punched in M38, my home airport, and it said "not in database". Now that worries me. What if you're flying along and your crankshaft breaks, and you push the "nearest airport" button, and the one right under you doesn't happen to be in the database? Not a good thing. And it turns out that many of the features of the PDA version aren't yet implemented in the XP version, and the "help" files just plain don't work. Given that the instruction manual is about 10 pages long, help files would be helpful! I read complaints on the web that the stuff wasn't ready for prime time, but since they were a year or so old, I figured it was fixed by now. It's not. Couple that with the fact that they sold me a Haicom GPS that you could buy for $100 anywhere else, for $250 (it had an AnywhereMap sticker stuck to the other side, which made it more valuable, I guess), and I was pretty disgusted with my purchase. It went back in the box and back to them two weeks ago, and I'm still waiting for them to credit my credit card account. This stuff is fine for PDA's (so I'm told), but don't think you'll be happy with the laptop version. I haven't mentioned what I'm using yet, because I haven't fully tested it and can't swear by it, but I'll give a full report when I do. Basically it's a TPad 800 remote display, which is daylight readable, and 6" wide by 9" tall, mounted to the panel, dead center and right in front of my face. It's so tall it only misses the canopy by half an inch. It's hooked to my laptop, which is running Flightprep's "Chart Case" (supported by KRnet's own John Bouyeau), which is pretty awsome stuff. You have various modes of moving map, including overlayed on top of the current sectional. All of this is connected to a $100 Garmin 18 USB GPS plugged into the laptop, which came with free street mapping GPS software, so I can also use the laptop in the car on trips. The beauty of this system is that it cost me $1400 (no, that's not the beautiful part), but that when it becomes obsolete, I don't have to go out and buy another $2500 GPS box, I just buy new software. But ChartCase has regular updates, so that's not going to happen anytime soon. I basically have a full powered computer sitting on my panel. I carry a laptop anyway to collect EIS (Engine Information System) data anyway, so I might as well use it. Next improvement will be to replace the laptop with a "car PC", a little box that's about $300, and is a full-featured PC set up for 12V. I'll have to buy an "industrial hard drive" that is altitude compensated (hard drives tend to crash over 10,000'), which will drive the price to $600, but it's smaller and more rugged than the laptop, and can be permanently mounted in the plane. So I've got $2500 in a killer huge screen color GPS setup, that's not going obsolete anytime soon, a far better value for my money than a Garmin 396. Oh, and it does weather and terrain too (although I'm not up for the $30 a month WX weather subscription yet). Not as good a price as what Mark Jones has (that's hard to beat), but with better functionality and readability (although admittedly not 25x more functionality or readability!). Another alternative is a tablet PC. There are a couple (more on that later) that are daylight readable, but they are just plain bigger than will fit on my panel. I'll do a full report on this system when I have it up and running, but so far, the flight planning and GPS stuff works great! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html nagy hussein --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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Good luck, Stephen steate@compositecooling.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of ken Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:34 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> saturn engines i'm concidering using the new saturn 2.4 dual overhead cam engine it puts out 150hp and wet weight is around 285lbs minus reduction drive has anyone else used an inline motor? other than a little plumbing for the radiator whats the diff to using opposed air cooled also has anyone seen that new motor put out by "dyna-cam" 200hp at 2000 rpm and 600lbs of torque at 1500 rpm! water cooled at 300lbs dry 40 inches by only 30 inches wide for only $30,000 (way out of my price range) i found a company that rewires auto motors for aircraft using the engines comp. but i dont remember what site this was any clues _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://dell.myway.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:27:43 EST From: JSMONDAY@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> GPS To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <228.1b8f30a.30af690f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Mark to you have the make and model of the $100 Bluetooth GPS?? Thanks, John Monday KR2s Laguna Beach, CA ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:29:03 -0800 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: Re: KR> GPS To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001c01c5ec65$951c7790$0202a8c0@IntelliSpec> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -----Original Message----- Hello Steve, Can you till what software is this? can you give info on that. I have not finish my KR2 but Collecting the good info from the KRnet to use it whenever need it. Thank you Nagy Jacksonville, Florida Sure, it is the AnywhereMap software. Try to find someone local to see if it would work for you first. Some people do not like it. Regards, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:16:32 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> GPS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005801c5ec74$9f5e8360$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve Glover wrote: >There is a section in the software that will let you select > low, medium and high res terrain and color. Yep, I turned over every stone under every tab, and found that one, but nothing I could do would make rivers and minor roads appear, and the tech guy didn't help. Knowing about the download would have been handy! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:15:47 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: Re: KR> MARKS CORVAIR ENGINE To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051118191547.743.qmail@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- VIRGIL N SALISBURY wrote: > Some synthetics work very well with leaded > fuel, Virg > All the information that I have read indicates that synthetic oils do not have the solvency to hold lead in suspension, leading to corrosion problems on engine parts. If you have other information, I'd love to see it. Seems I remember a certain synthetic oil manufacturer getting sued for this very reason. Scott __________________________________ Yahoo! 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