From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 486 Date: 11/27/2005 1:39:37 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: The Fix (Doug Rupert) 2. Re: VW rpms (P.Byington) 3. Re: VW rpms (Kenneth Wiltrout) 4. RE: Ellison primer system (Brian Kraut) 5. Re: The Fix (Mark Jones) 6. Re: The Fix (Kenneth Wiltrout) 7. Re: The Fix (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 8. Re: Ellison primer system (Mark Langford) 9. Re: The Fix (Steve Bray) 10. filling holes (wilder_jeff Wilder) 11. ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings (wilder_jeff Wilder) 12. Re: ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings (Bob Glidden) 13. Final Flight (Mark Jones) 14. Re: Final Flight (Ron Smith) 15. Re: Final Flight (Kenneth Wiltrout) 16. Re: ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings (Dan Heath) 17. Re: ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings (wilder_jeff Wilder) 18. Corvair engine for sale (Scott William) 19. Re: ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings (Mark Langford) 20. Plans (John Godwin) 21. Re: Plans (Bob Glidden) 22. RE: filling holes (Brian Kraut) 23. RE: Plans (Brian Kraut) 24. Re: Corvair engine for sale (Scott William) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:51:52 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> The Fix To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <008c01c5f31f$0e5f0090$6104e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Thanks for the tip. A little trick I used on my drag bikes has hit the kill switch off and one with the throttle cracked a 1/4 open. Damn thing would backfire and shoot flame and carbon straight out the exhaust pipes. Worked like a charm and never had carbon build-up or a blown gasket. I don't think however I'd try this little stunt on a flight engine due to undue stresses placed on all kinds of rotating masses. Doug Rupert He took a large rubber mallet and smacked the roker arms a few times after removing the cover of course and now that cylinder is showing 74 pounds. Just a few strokes with a rubber mallet was all it took to jar the carbon off of the seal. I could see an expensive repair bill for grinding valves, replacing rings or possibly the entire cylinder so I thought you guys aught to know about this fix. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:01:11 -0800 From: "P.Byington" Subject: Re: KR> VW rpms To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008901c5f320$5aee5900$10eae404@Byington> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lee; I have a 1835 VW that is turbo charged. I found that for over all good performance, a 52 X 47 prop works pretty well. I get a pretty consistant 160 - 165 mph speeds at about 5.5 gph. I am using an Amyer-Demuth prop. I can turn this prop at about 3600 rpm and 33 inches. I also have the original retracts and the standard Kr-2 not stretched. Hope this helps. Oh, I also have a 50 X 42 prop that I used to fly off the 40 hours, it was much better for climb and burning off the required hours prior to long cross countries. I was able to turn that one all the way to 4000 rpm, but I didn't do that much. The max speed using it was about 140 mph. FYI Parley Byington Kr-2 N54PB parley@anv.net Henderson, Nevada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Van Dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: KR> VW rpms > Group, > > Although my day yesterday was a great time, there are a few > housekeeping things to take car of. > > 1. Airspeed was about 120 +/- (could be faster) > 2. RPM's 3300 max at level flight 3150 @ climb out. > 3. Fuel consumption is about 5 gal per hour ( I have a Super POSA ) I > can lean it out in the air. > 4. No music for the 1:20 trip. What is an easy inexpensive way to get music/ipod/satalite radio piped into the headset?? > 5. CHT is a little high on #1 cyl. > > My prop that I have now is a Culver 52/45 this might need to be > repitched, per GP this might help with the RPM's and the temp. > > I have an HAPI 1835 VW with Scat heads > > Any Ideas from the VW guys out there?????? > > Lee Van Dyke > Mesa AZ > Lee@vandyke5.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:23:02 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> VW rpms To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051127132302.92283.qmail@web84105.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Be careful---Revmaster only wants 3200 rpms in cruise, don't blow it. Regards Kenny "P.Byington" wrote: Lee; I have a 1835 VW that is turbo charged. I found that for over all good performance, a 52 X 47 prop works pretty well. I get a pretty consistant 160 - 165 mph speeds at about 5.5 gph. I am using an Amyer-Demuth prop. I can turn this prop at about 3600 rpm and 33 inches. I also have the original retracts and the standard Kr-2 not stretched. Hope this helps. Oh, I also have a 50 X 42 prop that I used to fly off the 40 hours, it was much better for climb and burning off the required hours prior to long cross countries. I was able to turn that one all the way to 4000 rpm, but I didn't do that much. The max speed using it was about 140 mph. FYI Parley Byington Kr-2 N54PB parley@anv.net Henderson, Nevada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Van Dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: KR> VW rpms > Group, > > Although my day yesterday was a great time, there are a few > housekeeping things to take car of. > > 1. Airspeed was about 120 +/- (could be faster) > 2. RPM's 3300 max at level flight 3150 @ climb out. > 3. Fuel consumption is about 5 gal per hour ( I have a Super POSA ) I > can lean it out in the air. > 4. No music for the 1:20 trip. What is an easy inexpensive way to get music/ipod/satalite radio piped into the headset?? > 5. CHT is a little high on #1 cyl. > > My prop that I have now is a Culver 52/45 this might need to be > repitched, per GP this might help with the RPM's and the temp. > > I have an HAPI 1835 VW with Scat heads > > Any Ideas from the VW guys out there?????? > > Lee Van Dyke > Mesa AZ > Lee@vandyke5.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:30:04 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Ellison primer system To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks. If tightening tthe exuast connections doesn't fix the CO problem you might want to try putting some temporary extensions on your exhaust pipes. You migt be getting some kind of srange airflow blowing exhaust back into the cowl with the NACA duct exhaust outlets. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 8:34 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Ellison primer system Brian Kraut wrote: > What are the rest of you with Ellisons using for a prime and start > procedure? The Ellison has no accelerator pump, so no amount of pumping the throttle will start it. Fuel doesn't come out of that spray bar unless there's a vacuum being pulled, and there's not enough vacuum until the engine is running. I thought I could get away without one, but I'm now convinced that a primer is absolutely necessary (just like the manual says), especially when it's as cold as it is now. I gave up in the summertime, and it would be impossible during winter. I have an electric primer solenoid as sold by Wicks, plumbed off a tee on the way to the carb (see diagram at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/fuel/index.html ). The primer line splts in two with one going to each intake manifold, where the primer orifices (which have a tiny hole in them to limit flow) are screwed into 1/8" NPT holes in the manifolds. Obviously, an electric pump is a must with this system, but the Ellison requires one anyway. I have a pushbutton under the panel that I press while starting the engine, and usually it lights off in a second in the summertime, but when it's 20 degrees F outside, it takes 2 or 3 seconds. In the last three days I've flown the KR 8.6 hours. I did 6 landings today, and think I finally figured out how to do it. I'm up to 91 hours, with 212 landings. It's supposed to be windy and gusty tomorrow, so I think it's time for an oil change and a little inspection. I tightened up the exhaust system tonight, so maybe my carbon monoxide problem is fixed. The detector will tell the story... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:49:37 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> The Fix To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003301c5f359$68ded4c0$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" I used to work for a mechanic back when I was in school (decades ago) who would take a 6oz Coke bottle (see, you do not even remember those) filled with cold water and rev the engine up and pour the cold water in the carb. The cold water would cause all the carbon to pop loose from the valves and piston head surfaces. I do not recommend this but just thought I would throw out some trivia. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 06:51:58 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> The Fix To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051127145158.2194.qmail@web84105.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Musta been the same mechanic that told me back in the day to put a banana in the rear axle housing if it made noise. Mark Jones wrote:I used to work for a mechanic back when I was in school (decades ago) who would take a 6oz Coke bottle (see, you do not even remember those) filled with cold water and rev the engine up and pour the cold water in the carb. The cold water would cause all the carbon to pop loose from the valves and piston head surfaces. I do not recommend this but just thought I would throw out some trivia. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:09:27 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> The Fix To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051127.101051.3320.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Ral old auto tune up trick. Run water from a hose into the carb. Keep the RPM's up as it will be a bear to start with all that water,Virg On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:49:37 -0600 "Mark Jones" writes: > I used to work for a mechanic back when I was in school (decades ago) > who > would take a 6oz Coke bottle (see, you do not even remember those) > filled > with cold water and rev the engine up and pour the cold water in the > carb. > The cold water would cause all the carbon to pop loose from the > valves and > piston head surfaces. I do not recommend this but just thought I > would throw > out some trivia. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my NEW > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:16:38 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Ellison primer system To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008501c5f365$905d5790$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bill Clapp wrote: > Glad to hear your kids got a ride - Has your wife gone up yet or does > she stay home and hold onto the insurance policy? Not yet, but it'll just be a matter of time. I think she's looking forward to it. She soloed in a 150 when she was 16, if that tells you anything... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:25:45 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: Re: KR> The Fix To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mark I've seen this work well on engines just before a rebuild. We used a spray bottle of water. It will clean the carbon. The water won't compress and beats the carbon into submisson, I think in the 70's Chrysler put come form of water injection on some cars. We have also changed sparkplug wires around to make it backfire for a reverse flush of the carb. These are not suggestions, just things I have seen and sometimes work. I've also seen and old mechanic put baby powder in the intake of a running engine to seat the rings, not so sure about that one. I am sure walnut hulls (ground) will clean turbine blades. Don't try this at home, it will be messy and may have unexpected results ! Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: Kenneth Wiltrout >Reply-To: KRnet >To: KRnet >Subject: Re: KR> The Fix >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 06:51:58 -0800 (PST) > >Musta been the same mechanic that told me back in the day to put a >banana >in the rear axle housing if it made noise. > >Mark Jones wrote:I used to work for a mechanic back >when I was in school (decades ago) who >would take a 6oz Coke bottle (see, you do not even remember those) filled >with cold water and rev the engine up and pour the cold water in the carb. >The cold water would cause all the carbon to pop loose from the valves and >piston head surfaces. I do not recommend this but just thought I would >throw >out some trivia. > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Wales, WI USA >E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com >Visit my NEW >KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:50:52 -0700 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: KR> filling holes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed All... I need an opinion about filling some holes in the spars and firewall.. The landing gear is a spring bar made out of about .75 Al. The spring bar mounts to the spar using an "L" bracket made out of 3/4 AL. This L bracket is mounted to the back of the spar with 6 .25 AN bolts. I would like to know if anyone would see a problem with pulling the bolts out filling the hole with .25 dowel and gluing it in with some type of epoxy. I want to mount the landing gear a little firther in so that the gear does not extend out past the wing stubbs. This will also allow me to mount the gear onto the front of the spar getting rid of some unnecessary weight of the nose gear and all the supporting hardware.. I figure about 20lbs all tole, and turning it into a taildragger. The engine I bought came with a motor mount that came off of a KR2.. but the bolt paterns that are existing on the plane does not match up wiht that of the mount. The holes on the plane are just about to the main longarons, the mount pn the engine is at the stock locations. My options are this... rebuild a new motor mount to match that of my airframe or fill the holes as I would the spars ... and redrill to match the new motor mount. thank you in advance, -Jeff ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:58:04 -0700 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed With the engine purchase I jst made, I was given a set of wings for the KR.. they are the stock build. When I bougth my plane I had a set of DD wings just about finished. While I have a KR2, the plane is just too small to fit two adults as we all know,,, I was planning on turning it into a really nice roomy single place... So my question is.. stock wings or DD wings? ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:07:59 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016101c5f37d$80fb94c0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original DD wing skins are stock KR2 wing skins...... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com So my question is.. stock wings or DD wings? --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:28:19 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Final Flight To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <006401c5f380$57feb180$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Two days ago, I made a flight after installing my new Sensenich prop. This was also my last flight of 2005. Today I have drained my wing tanks dry and disconnected all wiring and tubes going to the outer wings. I have also loosened the WAF bolts in preparation of removing the wings. The reason I am doing this is so I can bring my plane home for the winter. I will be completing all the minor things I never got done because flying was more important at the time. I will also complete the body work, install the wheel pants and paint her this winter. I will also be removing my engine and doing some minor things to it. I could do this work at the hanger but having the pane at home will be more convenient plus I have a heated garage. So to all of you who can fly through the winter, I wish you many safe and great flights. Watch for the unveiling of a new N886MJ this spring. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:16:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> Final Flight To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051127191614.5796.qmail@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mark Jones wrote: Two days ago, I made a flight after installing my new Sensenich prop. This was also my last flight of 2005. Today I have drained my wing tanks dry and disconnected all wiring and tubes going to the outer wings. I have also loosened the WAF bolts in preparation of removing the wings. The reason I am doing this is so I can bring my plane home for the winter. I will be completing all the minor things I never got done because flying was more important at the time. I will also complete the body work, install the wheel pants and paint her this winter. I will also be removing my engine and doing some minor things to it. I could do this work at the hanger but having the pane at home will be more convenient plus I have a heated garage. So to all of you who can fly through the winter, I wish you many safe and great flights. Watch for the unveiling of a new N886MJ this spring. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com Hi Mark! I bet your wife is happy the plane is coming home! :) My wife has about the same attitude toward my plane, as yours does. I think you said your wife has come around a little bit though, right? I'm glad your will be painting and finishing your plane. Yours is alot like what mine will be, so I have followed your progress closely. I plan to have a trigear-corvair. Did you mark the numbers you were getting, to compare what the wheel pants gives you as far as climb, and top speed and cruise, etc? Last I heard you were getting 145 WOT. Good luck on your trip home. How are you going to stand not flying that little bird? Btw, thanks for posting those pics of Joe Hortons plane. What a nice job he did! From the pics, that looks like a factory plane! Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:17:26 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Final Flight To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051127191726.3976.qmail@web84101.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Make us proud!!!!!!!!! Mark Jones wrote:Two days ago, I made a flight after installing my new Sensenich prop. This was also my last flight of 2005. Today I have drained my wing tanks dry and disconnected all wiring and tubes going to the outer wings. I have also loosened the WAF bolts in preparation of removing the wings. The reason I am doing this is so I can bring my plane home for the winter. I will be completing all the minor things I never got done because flying was more important at the time. I will also complete the body work, install the wheel pants and paint her this winter. I will also be removing my engine and doing some minor things to it. I could do this work at the hanger but having the pane at home will be more convenient plus I have a heated garage. So to all of you who can fly through the winter, I wish you many safe and great flights. Watch for the unveiling of a new N886MJ this spring. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:25:05 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings To: Message-ID: <438A0811.000015.02140@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Stock KR2 wings. If you do it right, they will be lighter and the plane will be faster. It will also cost you a LOT less. Using the plastic sheet technique of laying on the glass, this should be an easy job with the help of a friend. Now, after I get this one flying, I might change my mind, but I doubt it. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: Bob Glidden Date: 11/27/05 13:11:04 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings DD wing skins are stock KR2 wing skins...... ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:39:55 -0700 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed DD wings use the standard airfoil... but are an extra 24 inches or so longer -Jeff Wilder CISSP,CCE,C/EH -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM/CS/O d- s:+ a C+++ UH++ P L++ E- w-- N+++ o-- K- w O- M-- V-- PS+ PE- Y++ PGP++ t+ 5- X-- R* tv b++ DI++ D++ G e* h--- r- y+++* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ DD wings us >From: "Dan Heath" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: >Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings >Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:25:05 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by >mc11-f40.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:25:22 -0800 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1EgS9G-000DBQ-5q; Sun, 27 Nov >2005 11:25:18 -0800 >Received: from ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net ([166.102.165.167])by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EgS8w-000DBE-EJfor >krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:24:58 -0800 >Received: from danhomecomputer ([151.213.88.100])by >ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net with ESMTPid ><20051127192457.CINA12191.ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net@danhomecomputer>for >; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:24:57 -0600 >X-Message-Info: loPmDlX8LgfSrAbTBLOCc4ercziXehnXb1hgkXPWAV4= >X-Mailer: IncrediMail (4002031) >References: <016101c5f37d$80fb94c0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> >X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2005 19:25:22.0487 (UTC) >FILETIME=[4F80CC70:01C5F388] > >Stock KR2 wings. If you do it right, they will be lighter and the >plane will be faster. It will also cost you a LOT less. Using the >plastic sheet technique of laying on the glass, this should be an easy job with the help >of a friend. Now, after I get this one flying, I might change my mind, >but >I doubt it. > >See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering >There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for >building >is OVER. >Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC >-------Original Message------- > >From: Bob Glidden >Date: 11/27/05 13:11:04 >To: KRnet >Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings > >DD wing skins are stock KR2 wing skins...... > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: KR> Corvair engine for sale To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051127210230.69231.qmail@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have a DISASSEMBLED Corvair engine for sale. This engine was one of two that I aquired while on my search. It has no heads. The case number is T0203AE. It came out of a 1969 Corvair. The crank is a standard size 8409. The bell housing has been partially cut accoring to the WIlliam Wynne manual (rough cut with rough edges). Everything you don't need to fly has been discarded, everything you do need is there, except the heads. I live in the central west coast of Florida (near Clearwater). $150 and it's yours. If you want it shipped, I can box it and ship it, you pay the shipping. I am willing to drive it to a local airport for you to fly in and pick up. Local is X39, ZPH, BKV, or PIE. Email me off this site at scottLy@yahoo.com __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:04:08 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> ennie mennie minie moe: 2 sets of wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00eb01c5f396$1ccf0360$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm with Dan...since you'll be hauling less weight, you'll need less wing area, so you'll get a smoother ride in choppy air than with the larger Diehl skins. Save the skins for your S, keep 'em for spares, or turn them into money... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:14:00 -0500 From: "John Godwin" Subject: KR> Plans To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-220051102721140296@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi everybody, I am new to the KRnet and just wanted to pose a quick question. I ordered my 2s plans a few weeks ago from RR and the check hasn't cleared yet. I tried to call RR and no answer, I left a message and no responce. I this normal? any help would be appreciated. Thanks John Godwin jg7654@mindspring.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. http://home.mindspring.com/~jg7654/ ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:14:40 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Plans To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <019501c5f397$9499dd10$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes give it a while and she should answer you or send your plans... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:21:32 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> filling holes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I used the epoxy and dowel method on mine and it worked fine. Anything you glue in there will obviously be stronger than the holes with the bolts in them. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of wilder_jeff Wilder Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:51 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> filling holes All... I need an opinion about filling some holes in the spars and firewall.. The landing gear is a spring bar made out of about .75 Al. The spring bar mounts to the spar using an "L" bracket made out of 3/4 AL. This L bracket is mounted to the back of the spar with 6 .25 AN bolts. I would like to know if anyone would see a problem with pulling the bolts out filling the hole with .25 dowel and gluing it in with some type of epoxy. I want to mount the landing gear a little firther in so that the gear does not extend out past the wing stubbs. This will also allow me to mount the gear onto the front of the spar getting rid of some unnecessary weight of the nose gear and all the supporting hardware.. I figure about 20lbs all tole, and turning it into a taildragger. The engine I bought came with a motor mount that came off of a KR2.. but the bolt paterns that are existing on the plane does not match up wiht that of the mount. The holes on the plane are just about to the main longarons, the mount pn the engine is at the stock locations. My options are this... rebuild a new motor mount to match that of my airframe or fill the holes as I would the spars ... and redrill to match the new motor mount. thank you in advance, -Jeff _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:21:35 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Plans To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Things move slow there, but you will get your plans. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of John Godwin Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 4:14 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Plans Hi everybody, I am new to the KRnet and just wanted to pose a quick question. I ordered my 2s plans a few weeks ago from RR and the check hasn't cleared yet. I tried to call RR and no answer, I left a message and no responce. I this normal? any help would be appreciated. Thanks John Godwin jg7654@mindspring.com Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. http://home.mindspring.com/~jg7654/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:38:31 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engine for sale To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051127213832.53360.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mr. Langford will be aquiring this..... --- Scott William wrote: > > I have a DISASSEMBLED Corvair engine for sale. This > engine was one of two that I aquired while on my > search. It has no heads. The case number is > T0203AE. > It came out of a 1969 Corvair. The crank is a > standard > size 8409. The bell housing has been partially cut > accoring to the WIlliam Wynne manual (rough cut with > rough edges). Everything you don't need to fly has > been discarded, everything you do need is there, > except the heads. > > I live in the central west coast of Florida (near Clearwater). $150 > and it's yours. If you want it shipped, I can box it and ship it, you > pay the shipping. I am willing to drive it to a local > airport > for you to fly in and pick up. Local is X39, ZPH, > BKV, > or PIE. > > Email me off this site at scottLy@yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. 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