From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 489 Date: 11/29/2005 2:02:37 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. wing skin shrinkage (Joseph H. Horton) 2. Engine options? (patrusso) 3. Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam (patrusso) 4. Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam (Mark Langford) 5. Re: wing skin shrinkage (Orma) 6. Re: Engine options? (Ameet Savant) 7. RE: Engine options? (Stephen Teate) 8. Temps for glass work (Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO) 9. RE: Temps for glass work (Mark Jones) 10. Engine options (Colin Rainey) 11. Added Photos (Mark Jones) 12. Primer (Colin Rainey) 13. Re: Engine options? (peter@pwe.co.nz) 14. RE: Temps for glass work (Jack Cooper) 15. Primer (Colin Rainey) 16. RE: Temps for glass work (Ronald R.Eason) 17. Verner (Colin Rainey) 18. Wingspan (Colin Rainey) 19. Re: Primer (patrusso) 20. RE: Primer (Ron Freiberger) 21. RE: Primer (Dan Heath) 22. RE: Primer (Mark Jones) 23. Re: Primer (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 24. Re: Primer (Jerry Mahurin) 25. Re: Primer (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:58:06 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> wing skin shrinkage To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051129.055806.2240.17.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Guys mine did the same thing with the spars image showing through. It showed up right after it was painted. It also in places that are 2 different kinds of foam and also where carbon fiber was used. I could not find any delamination and I wanted to fly so that is what I'm doing. But it really bothers me to look at my wings. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:35:19 -0500 Keith & Martha Crawford writes: > > > I have heard of the skin being so air tight that when the air > contracted it sucked the skin in and when it expanded it blew up > like > a balloon. do you have small weep holes that let it breathe? > Keith Crawford > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:12:07 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: KR> Engine options? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c5f4d8$5d8ecc80$49a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am looking for a narrower (smaller in physical size) engine for my single seat KR. My VW is too wide. I want to streamline the firewall forward to look more in line with P51, 109 etc. Besides the mazda, what's out there in the 70-80 HP range that is not 2 cycle? Any thoughts out there? Pat ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:21:16 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001901c5f4d8$5debe0a0$49a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original K No weep holes. Where would I have put them on the tail surfaces? On the wing it is not a problem I suppose if all the ribs are vented and there are no locked in areas. P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith & Martha Crawford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> shrinking foam > > > I have heard of the skin being so air tight that when the air > contracted it sucked the skin in and when it expanded it blew up like > a balloon. do you have small weep holes that let it breathe? Keith > Crawford > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:12:20 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <04e001c5f4de$2638a250$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If you guys are talking about what I think you're talking about, it happens to most KRs. It'll look better in the summertime, worse in the winter, because the wings were constructed under "normal" temperatures (you can't do glass work in the winter), and winter isn't normal. The different thermal expansion of wood, glass, and foam is the culprit, but it'll look better next summer. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:50:15 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> wing skin shrinkage To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003a01c5f4e3$7387cb80$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original For the most part you will see the same thing on just about all plans built KR wings. Mine look that way and one of them has been around for over 20 years. Orma Southfield, MI KR-2 N110LR 1984 See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:08:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ameet Savant Subject: Re: KR> Engine options? To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051129130835.44632.qmail@web60825.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Pat, Take a look at http://www.moraviation.com/ Their WALTER MIKRON III B model is 75HP. Good luck! Ameet --- patrusso wrote: > I am looking for a narrower (smaller in physical > size) engine for my single seat KR. My VW is too > wide. I want to streamline the firewall forward to > look more in line with P51, 109 etc. Besides the > mazda, what's out there in the 70-80 HP range that > is not 2 cycle? Any thoughts out there? > Pat > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:12:52 -0600 From: "Stephen Teate" Subject: RE: KR> Engine options? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <98DAC793BA09104DA961CAFAA33C79580CC43B@ccs-svr1.CCS.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Besides the mazda, what's out there in the 70-80 HP range that is not 2 cycle? Any thoughts out there?" The Honda Prelude & Civic inline 4 cylinder engines have been popular with the BD5 folks. Also the GEO Metro inline 3 cylinder has been used in other aircraft. I believe you can find more info on these on the Contact Magazine website. Stephen -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of patrusso Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:12 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Engine options? I am looking for a narrower (smaller in physical size) engine for my single seat KR. My VW is too wide. I want to streamline the firewall forward to look more in line with P51, 109 etc. Besides the mazda, what's out there in the 70-80 HP range that is not 2 cycle? Any thoughts out there? Pat _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:39:28 -0500 From: Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO Subject: KR> Temps for glass work To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <200511291539.jATFdVmq024399@phantom1.region4.ang.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain What would be the normal range of temps for doing glass lay ups. I will have my garage heated this winter and am wanting to do some glass work. Eric Pitts Terre Haute IN KR2S http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:55:51 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Temps for glass work To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C1039F@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You need 70°F minimum for 24 hours to cure properly. Of course anything higher would be better. That is what I adhered to when I did lay up work in my garage in the winter. I actually sealed my garage up so tight that I could get to 90°F if I wanted to. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com From: Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:39 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Temps for glass work What would be the normal range of temps for doing glass lay ups. I will have my garage heated this winter and am wanting to do some glass work. Eric Pitts Terre Haute IN KR2S http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:09:59 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Engine options To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-220051122917959600@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII patrusso and Stephen I would not use the Geo 3 cyl as the 4 cyl is much more reliable and smoother running. I have an email address of a man that converts them for aircraft use and sells a conversion book for $60 USD. He used his in the Loehle P51 he has. It is said to be 100 hp, but I would plan on a conservative 80-85 hp continuous, with 100 hp on takeoff depending on density altitude (as with any engine). Kinda like the ratings for the Rotax family engines. Their 4 strokes are also a good choice, and are light but expensive. One netter had an engine made in Europe that was supposed to be a good engine, but ended up being his nightmare. Definitely need to use an engine with alot of parts available and local support if possible. Mail order for that kind of item is tough to service. Also, running the radiator under the belly just at/behind the firewall will give the best airflow, aerodynamics, and shortest runs of the water lines. Other places work well, but increase the length of the water lines, or effect the frontal area in a negative way, by making the cowling wide. Scoops can be found already molded to make install easier, on the Summit Racing and Jegs Racing webpages. Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:24:01 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Added Photos To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C103A0@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ladies and Gents, I have just added some more flight photos at the bottom of my home page. Hope you enjoy. Here is the link: www.flykr2s.com Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:39:21 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Primer To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-2200511229173921616@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII "Dan and netters It would be very easy to wire a primer solenoid into the starter circuit for use only while starting." Here are some additional thoughts after Brian's post between Dan and I: start of fuel flow. As a quick fix I would add a single primer injector just AFTER the carb, and only shoot fuel after the engine is spinning. If it fogs the mist then it will work just fine. With a split intake, installing the primer injector at each port is obviously the best spot for nearly direct injection. But, since you are not running the engine off this injector, but merely wanting fuel fumes to be there to prime the engine so that it will start, the injector would be easier to install, and work just as well at the runner junction prior to the split into to two runners. This makes it easier to plumb since there are only 2 injectors instead of 4, less to go wrong, and still close enough to get basically instant engine response. As Mark L. pointed out, you could also actually use it to run the engine if something clogged the carb. I would wire it up so that you select the primer before starting, and then it activates when pressing the starter button. In a separate location would be a separate switch that can activate the primer by itself, maybe near the master switch. By needing to use the separate primer activation switch, you make a hot start better, because it should not need priming, (hopefully). During cold starts you use it, and separate switch allows for emergency use, or if prime is not enough with engine spinning, if really cold out, say 30-40 degrees and you need a few seconds of prime by itself first. That would be my take on it, and the way I would begin to solve this issue... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:39:10 +1300 From: peter@pwe.co.nz Subject: Re: KR> Engine options? To: KRnet Message-ID: <002e01c5f50b$efff52a0$0500a8c0@PWE02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Look at www.vernermotor.com Peter wastney ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrusso" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:12 AM Subject: KR> Engine options? > I am looking for a narrower (smaller in physical size) engine for my single seat KR. My VW is too wide. I want to streamline the firewall forward to look more in line with P51, 109 etc. Besides the mazda, what's out there in the 70-80 HP range that is not 2 cycle? Any thoughts out there? > Pat > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.9/185 - Release Date: > 28/11/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:43:58 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Temps for glass work To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200511229174358109@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have done small areas of glass work in the winter and used halogen lamps to keep the area warm. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO > To: > Date: 11/29/2005 10:39:51 AM > Subject: KR> Temps for glass work > > What would be the normal range of temps for doing glass lay ups. I > will have > my garage heated this winter and am wanting to do some glass work. > > Eric Pitts > Terre Haute IN > KR2S > http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:48:51 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Primer To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-220051122917485153@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII After reading my own post, it sounded confusing, so I will better explain it. Wire a main switch for power to a toggle on the panel for the primer. This prevents accidental use when not desired. Then wire in 2 separate momentary on switches, one that is the same as the starter activation switch, and one that is separate, and in another location on the panel, maybe near other devices for emergency use together. This second switch can spray the injector by itself without engine spinning, for additional prime if needed. The toggle prevents use during hot starts if not needed, and if needed during "normal" starts, will be automatic with starter activation, with the toggle in the "on" position. Hope this clears it up... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:20:26 -0600 From: "Ronald R.Eason" Subject: RE: KR> Temps for glass work To: , "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <006101c5f511$92bc72c0$6601a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I work fiberglass in the winter at temps 60 to 70 deg F using heat lamps to promote curing, hot air gun to spread resin and saturate cloth. The curing times are slower but it works. I intend to post curing in the summer sun to being the planes surface to 140 deg F. using black plastic sheathing. Most of the work has been around 6 to 10 sq. ft. KRron http://www.jrl-engineering.com Our Attitude Makes The Difference! -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Jack Cooper Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:44 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Temps for glass work I have done small areas of glass work in the winter and used halogen lamps to keep the area warm. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Pitts Eric MSgt 181FW/MXOO > To: > Date: 11/29/2005 10:39:51 AM > Subject: KR> Temps for glass work > > What would be the normal range of temps for doing glass lay ups. I > will have > my garage heated this winter and am wanting to do some glass work. > > Eric Pitts > Terre Haute IN > KR2S > http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:44:33 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Verner To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-2200511229184433788@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Will have to be very light KR for this engine use, since it will be about half the weight of the VW. Also, I believe one of our netters had a Limbauch engine that had bad factory support for a crankshaft problem. There are several problems with high revving, lower horsepower engines. Do the research first, before choosing... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:49:38 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Wingspan To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-2200511229184938631@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Thinking about the wings for use, I thought about a few things to consider. It has been my study that low wings increase climb rate, and based on reports effect the cruise speed with increased drag. But, this negative effect on cruise speed is only significant at lower altitudes. The longer wing makes it easier to cruise at higher altitudes, than a short wing due to the greater lift off setting the reduced air density. Some KR builders that intend to high altitude cruise, as I will, say above 5000 feet, will actually benefit from the longer wings, not be held back, even though at low altitude it will have a penalty. There are more learned than I, say Jim Ferris, and Doug Rupert that can comment further if this thread continues.... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:00:24 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Primer To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c5f517$28214890$7ba672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Gosh, I have the Zenith carb supplied by Great Plains with a spring loaded choke and never worry about priming! Starts every time without hassle. Old fashion, isn't it? Throttle forward one third, pull choke and press start button! Just like my very first car, a '34 plymouth! ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:09:00 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> Primer To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000e01c5f518$5af43060$0202a8c0@Disorganized> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" What ever happened to the pull-out-to -fill-push-in -to-squirt idea..?. Works well, easy to use, and simple. Put one line to each side at the top, use a .016 diameter orifice. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:11:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Primer To: Message-ID: <438CA7F1.000019.01668@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Don't like pulling two additional lines containing fuel, into the cockpit. I like the solenoid method. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: Ron Freiberger Date: 11/29/05 14:08:10 To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> Primer What ever happened to the pull-out-to -fill-push-in -to-squirt idea..?. Works well, easy to use, and simple. Put one line to each side at the top, use a .016 diameter orifice. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:00:24 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Primer To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C103A2@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That's what I have (an Essex) and it works every time. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ron Freiberger Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:09 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> Primer What ever happened to the pull-out-to -fill-push-in -to-squirt idea..?. Works well, easy to use, and simple. Put one line to each side at the top, use a .016 diameter orifice. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:10:22 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Primer To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051129.161534.3664.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some one older than I, Virg On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:00:24 -0500 "patrusso" writes: > Gosh, I have the Zenith carb supplied by Great Plains with a spring > loaded > choke and never worry about priming! Starts every time without > hassle. Old > fashion, isn't it? Throttle forward one third, pull choke and press > start > button! Just like my very first car, a '34 plymouth! > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:43:07 -0500 From: Jerry Mahurin Subject: Re: KR> Primer To: KRnet Message-ID: <3812d7480511291343sc6f68bbgb89cc9b80ddfd4c0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .............the manual primer with just two 1/8" lines is MUCH simpler to work with........ No wires complex plumbing, etc............... Keep it SIMPLE and light................ Later On 11/29/05, Dan Heath wrote: > > Don't like pulling two additional lines containing fuel, into the > cockpit. I like the solenoid method. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in > Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a > time for FLYING and the time for building > is OVER. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > -------Original Message------- > > From: Ron Freiberger > Date: 11/29/05 14:08:10 > To: 'KRnet' > Subject: RE: KR> Primer > > What ever happened to the pull-out-to -fill-push-in -to-squirt > idea..?. Works well, easy to use, and simple. Put one line to each > side at the top, use a .016 diameter orifice. > > Ron Freiberger > mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- Jerry Mahurin - aka - KRJerry EAA# 0034283 Lugoff, SC 29078 ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:01:51 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Primer To: Message-ID: <438CCFCF.00001D.01668@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I certainly disagree with that. You need more plumbing with the manual system. The plumbing has to run into the cockpit. How can it be lighter unless the manual plunger and additional plumbing are lighter than the solenoid? Why introduce more opportunities for fuel to leak into the cockpit area? What can be more simple than 1 switch, one solenoid and one wire? All the rest is the same. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: Jerry Mahurin Date: 11/29/05 16:43:22 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Primer ..............the manual primer with just two 1/8" lines is MUCH simpler to work with........ No wires complex plumbing, etc............... Keep it SIMPLE and light................ Later On 11/29/05, Dan Heath wrote: > > Don't like pulling two additional lines containing fuel, into the > cockpit. I like the solenoid method. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in > Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a > time for FLYING and the time for building > is OVER. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > -------Original Message------- > > From: Ron Freiberger > Date: 11/29/05 14:08:10 > To: 'KRnet' > Subject: RE: KR> Primer > > What ever happened to the pull-out-to -fill-push-in -to-squirt > idea..?. Works well, easy to use, and simple. Put one line to each > side at the top, use a .016 diameter orifice. > > Ron Freiberger > mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- Jerry Mahurin - aka - KRJerry EAA# 0034283 Lugoff, SC 29078 _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 489 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================