From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 523 Date: 12/23/2005 1:43:51 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fw: REVISED: EAA Chapter E-Gram, Vol. 7 No. 10 (P.Byington) 2. Re: Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Dan Heath) 3. Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Serge VIDAL) 4. Merry Christmas (Peter Drake) 5. R?f. : KR> Merry Christmas (Serge VIDAL) 6. Re: Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Mark Langford) 7. Re: Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Mark Langford) 8. cabin heat (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 9. Update (Mark Jones) 10. RE: Update (Jim Mullen) 11. Re: Update (jeffyork40@qx.net) 12. My KR Christmas present (jeffyork40@qx.net) 13. Happy Holidays from MVN (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 14. RE: R?f. : KR> Merry Christmas (Doug Rupert) 15. RE: Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Doug Rupert) 16. Re: cabin heat (patrusso) 17. Re: Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Mark Langford) 18. Re: 100 hours on the KR today (iennaco@att.net) 19. Re: cabin heat (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 20. KR2/2s for sale (William Zink) 21. Re: KR2/2s for sale (tom@concentricenviro.com) 22. Re: 100 hours on the KR today (Mark Langford) 23. Re: 100 hours on the KR today (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 24. Re: Marry Xmas (Phil Matheson) 25. Re: Marry Xmas (Phil Matheson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:46:27 -0800 From: "P.Byington" Subject: KR> Fw: REVISED: EAA Chapter E-Gram, Vol. 7 No. 10 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c60784$39415be0$2bdae104@Byington> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear netters; A friend of mine from the Vari Eze world forwarded this to me and I thought I would pass it along to those who may not know about it. I checked mine and sure enough they had me on the list because my address was wrong. Just as a note of interest, I was looking through some old video tapes and ran across about ten minutes of inflight video pictures of my KR-2 flying from Sandy Valley Nevada to Boulder City. They video was shot from the back seat of N86KM (Vari Eze) by my son. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Thanks Parley Byington N54PB Kr-2 parley@anv.net Henderson Nv. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth R. Mintz" To: Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Fw: REVISED: EAA Chapter E-Gram, Vol. 7 No. 10 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Anderson" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:03 AM > Subject: REVISED: EAA Chapter E-Gram, Vol. 7 No. 10 > > > Please note the following REVISED title for the following story that > appeared in E-Gram. We apologize for the error. It had been > mistakenly noted in the title as Airport Owners instead of the correct > Aircraft Owners. > > > > FEDS ORDER AIRCRAFT OWNERS TO UPDATE > REGISTRATIONS BY FEBRUARY 2006 > ************************************** > Aircraft owners and operators have until > February 2, 2006 to ensure their aircraft > registration information is properly completed > and up to date (including address) or they > may be denied access to the National Airspace > System (NAS). > > An FAA notice published in the Federal Register > on December 9 indicates that FAA and TSA "will > revitalize and refocus" U.S. airspace monitoring > capabilities to ensure that each aircraft operating > within the NAS has met all statutory, regulatory > and certification requirements, effective February 1, 2006. > > To read the complete story go to: > http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/051212_faa.html > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:02:40 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: Message-ID: <43ABD950.000009.03464@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That is amazing. It looks almost like a Langford KR. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- Check out http://www.krnet.org/krs/beni/ from Guadalajara. This thing blows my mind... ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:32:51 +0100 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Guys, this has to stop! You keep raising standards and expectations! How are we, poor stock KR2 owners and builders going to catch up? ;-) Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:11:12 -0000 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: KR> Merry Christmas To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000801c607b9$f74f2060$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Merry Christmas to all you KRnuts across the pond. WAF problems sorted out. Starting on controls over the holidays. A prosperous New Year to you all. Peter Drake Hereford UK ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:29:36 +0100 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> Merry Christmas To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And nothing for us KRNuts just on the other side of the tunnel? ;-) E-mail: serge.vidal@sagem.com Merry Christmas to you all, happy building, happy sanding, and many, many happy landings. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France [I completed the resurfacing / rebuilding of my WAFs too. While I was at it, I also made L-shaped aluminum brackets that will hold to the outer wing WAFs bolts. The other surface of the L has got a Nutsert (M8 - or 8mm diameter if you prefer), and will rest on top of the wing bottom skin. This way, I will have threaded holes on the bottom surface of the wings, which will be used to screw removeable tie-down brackets. When not in use, the holes will be filled with a screw.] "Peter Drake" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 23/12/2005 13:11 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 23/12/2005 13:11 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Merry Christmas Merry Christmas to all you KRnuts across the pond. WAF problems sorted out. Starting on controls over the holidays. A prosperous New Year to you all. Peter Drake Hereford UK _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:45:58 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <08c401c607be$d2e8a340$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dan Heath wrote: > That is amazing. It looks almost like a Langford KR. ALMOST? My wife walked in while I was looking at the silver paint in the plastic paint booth and said "when do you do that?". Looking at how much the paint job did for the looks of his plane, I have some new incentive to finish painting mine. I have some buddies at Moontown that are threatening to build a similar "paint booth" next Spring, so I'll paint it sometime next year, but I don't plan to take the wings off to do it. Failing their paint booth, I'll do the plastic thing at "my" hangar and paint it there. It's good to know I've had some influence on the KR world, which I'd like to think has been postive. Robert Pesak that we visited in Tennessee is building an S with some gorgeous bent-up spars, but then he's a cabinet maker, so the whole plane should be awesome when it's finished.... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:05:02 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <08dd01c607c1$7c9af350$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Speaking of "raising the bar", check out Herbert Furle's German KR at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/hfurle/ . The last few pictures are a ground adjustable prop hub that he's made for his Rotax. Another awesome KR! Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:28:25 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: KR> cabin heat To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051223081940.03c8d2f0@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Bring that thing down here for a couple of >hours and we'll fix that heat problem. Troy was telling me today that >he' never had cabin heat, and never had the need for it (and he built >his in 1992). His cabin is well sealed, but yours probably is too. >Mark Langford +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I don't get much airflow in my cockpit except for a slight leak at the peak of the gullwing door. My problem , I think, is my age. Setting in 25 to 30 F air for 30 to 45 minutes causes my feet and hands to start getting a bit chilled. The only thing I have left to do to finish my cabin heat is to put on an exhaust muff and run a hose to the firewall. Like your paint job, I'll get to it some day. Maybe an occasional barrel roll or loop would get my heart pumping more blood to my extremities. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:06:16 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Update To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C1045C@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Am I the only one in the KR world working today? My phone has not even rang here at work. Might just have to shut er down early today. Anyway, my plane is in my garage being torn down. I have removed the wings, the rudder, the cowling, the forward deck, the seats and have the engine completely disconnected and ready for removal from the mount. I am doing this so that I can do the final body work on the KR and get her painted. There are some minor repairs that are needed and a few modifications I am going to do. I also have to make a new alternator mount and work on my carb heat and cabin heat. This gives me something to tinker with over the winter here in Wisconsin, however, we are having a heat wave right now. It is actually 37°F as I am typing this. This is the first time we have been above freezing in three weeks. Hope you all have a very Merry Christmas. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:12:11 -0800 From: Jim Mullen Subject: RE: KR> Update To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <63549084DDF79945895C381C8A0042720296AE@webmaster.tyeeair.com> Content-Type: text/plain Am I the only one in the KR world working today Marks not the only one still at work, but thanks to Brian Kraut he and I have struck a deal on his Sonerai, which gives me something to fly while I press on with the KR2S, in my 18 months as a KR wanna be pilot I had quit flying, and as I told Brian its just been driving me nuts. So I can now dream of flying again A special note to everyone in Wisconsin, having been Born there I know what Mark means by winter, its nothing like our lovely Seattle 34 degree Rain, Looks Like your X packer coach is finally go to come through for our Seahawks, so for that Thank you ! Wishing all our KR brothers and sisters a very Merry Christmas >From Seattle Jim Mullen KR2S 18 months old, and a long ways to go ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:15:03 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> Update To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011b01c607dc$1a3fb4a0$6564a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You are not the only one working,. However, I can not really call what I am doing really working because like you, it seems that nobody else in the company isworking today. Only voice mail when I attempt to get anyone. So I guess I will go out and get a couple of last minute items, cheese trays , candy tray or something for a couple of the retail stores here in town. My why of trying to say thank you to the retail side as I am the goverment side of Sprint here in Kentucky. Not that any of you needed, to know, wanted to know that, or really cared to know that. Have a very Merry Christmas. Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyork40@qx.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: KR> Update Am I the only one in the KR world working today? My phone has not even rang here at work. Might just have to shut er down early today. Anyway, my plane is in my garage being torn down. I have removed the wings, the rudder, the cowling, the forward deck, the seats and have the engine completely disconnected and ready for removal from the mount. I am doing this so that I can do the final body work on the KR and get her painted. There are some minor repairs that are needed and a few modifications I am going to do. I also have to make a new alternator mount and work on my carb heat and cabin heat. This gives me something to tinker with over the winter here in Wisconsin, however, we are having a heat wave right now. It is actually 37°F as I am typing this. This is the first time we have been above freezing in three weeks. Hope you all have a very Merry Christmas. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:31:39 -0500 From: Subject: KR> My KR Christmas present To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012101c607de$6bfd89f0$6564a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I had a YEEE HAAA KR day yesterday, while at the same time feeling like I got a special KR Christmas present. Yesterday, I got a annual inspection sign off on my KR. As some of you know, I always like to error on the side of caution. In some ways a little bit to cautious. I always like to have someone double check my work. I feel my work is good, but I feel that a second set of eyes are always better. of course all you have to do is think about the time I forgot to tighten one of my remote oil filter lines and well, some of you out there know what I mean. It is better to be safe then sorry. Anyway, A&P's and IA's do not seem to be easy to come by in this neck of the woods. I even have the same issue with getting one for spam can work. But, I finally got one to come by and take a look at the KR for the renewal of my annual. I have done a lot of mods over the last year or so and it was nice to have a professional come by and compliment on the workmanship and say " this is an easy one, it'll only take me a couple of hours to go over it and sign it off" That is alI I wanted for Christmas, and I got it. YEEE HAAA !! Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyork40@qx.net ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:35:13 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: KR> Happy Holidays from MVN To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051223103103.03998be0@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed To all the fine folks in KR land, I'm forwarding a Christmas message from the fine folks helping to host the 2006 KR Gathering. I'll add my wishes for a Merry Christmas and joyous New Year or best wishes for whatever holiday you may be celebrating. Larry Flesner >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >Dear KR Family: > >Merry Christmas from your friends at the Mt. Vernon Airport Authority, >City of Mt. Vernon, and EAA Chapter 1155. We hope you have a safe and >prosperous 2006! > >Planning for the 2006 Gathering is underway. We are contemplating some >day trips for the wives, studying various transportation modes to and >from the hotels (we already have several courtesy vehicles secured), >and looking into other ways to make your visit more enjoyable. We are >negotiating with Donnie Wilkey on re-opening Wilkey's Airport Buffet in >February/March, 2006. Other exciting news will follow very soon >regarding the airport. Watch our website at www.mtvernonairport.com >for updates. > >Please email me at managermvaa@mvn.net if you have any comments or >suggestions regarding the gathering. We look forward to seeing you in >September! > >Chris Collins >Airport Director-KMVN >(618) 242-7016 ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:08:01 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: R?f. : KR> Merry Christmas To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000401c607eb$e58eae40$0c6cd1d8@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joyeaux Noel Doug Rupert Merry Christmas to you all, happy building, happy sanding, and many, many happy landings. Serge Vidal Paris, France -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:08:01 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000501c607eb$f5292060$0c6cd1d8@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Mark, silver is a big no-no with internal antennas. The aluminum particles used in the silver play hell with reception. Better to go with a light shade of gray and avoid any color that's metallic. Doug Rupert ALMOST? My wife walked in while I was looking at the silver paint in the plastic paint booth and said "when do you do that?". Looking at how much the paint job did for the looks of his plane, I have some new incentive to finish painting mine. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:46:27 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> cabin heat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001101c607f1$2f3a4ae0$daa672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Anyone out there experiencing lots of condensation on the windscreen, inside? My arms are not long enough to wipe the screen. A defroster looks like a practical solution to the cab heat discussion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry&Sallie Flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:28 AM Subject: KR> cabin heat > >> >> Bring that thing down here for a couple of >>hours and we'll fix that heat problem. Troy was telling me today that >>he' never had cabin heat, and never had the need for it (and he built >>his in 1992). His cabin is well sealed, but yours probably is too. >>Mark Langford > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I don't get much airflow in my cockpit except for a slight leak at the > peak of the gullwing door. My problem , I think, is my age. Setting > in 25 to 30 F air for 30 to 45 minutes causes my feet and hands to > start getting a bit chilled. The only thing I have left to do to > finish my cabin heat is to put on an exhaust muff and run a hose to > the firewall. Like your paint job, I'll get to it some day. Maybe an > occasional > barrel roll or loop would get my heart pumping more blood to my > extremities. :-) > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:48:35 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d201c607f1$7b477070$0202a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1250"; reply-type=original Doug Rupert wrote: >>Mark, silver is a big no-no with internal antennas. The aluminum >>particles used in the silver play hell with reception. Better to go with a light shade of gray and avoid any color that's metallic.<< I understand that, which is the only reason MY plane is not painted with metallic paint. But we weren't talking about MY plane... Mark Langford, Harvest, AL see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:19:14 +0000 From: iennaco@att.net Subject: Re: KR> 100 hours on the KR today To: KRnet Message-ID: <122320051919.29746.43AC4DB200043275000074322160280748010C0E02020A07@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain Mark, Its great to hear confidence on landing this little high-performance machine. Since you have been the whole course, perhaps you can share with us your entry and landing techniques. Thanks, Dick Cocoa Beach -------------- Original message from "Mark Langford" : -------------- > KRnetHeads, > > I hit 100 hours in the KR today, during another 2.5 hour tour of local > airports. First to Guntersville, where I circled an old friend's house for > a few minutes taking pictures. I'll send him one with his Christmas card to > let him know the plane is finished. Then a few landings at Guntersville > airport, and then north to Fayetteville, TN, where I did about 12 more touch > and goes. I was the only guy there so I was just whipping around the > pattern. I punched the stopwatch on one run, and without doing anything > spectacular, did a pattern in less than three minutes, takeoff to takeoff. > That's hummin' in my book! Except for landings, I've been flying the thing > wide open most of the time. Towards the end I just bummed around a while > and looked at stuff on the ground, and then back to Hazel Green. Changed > the oil and washed the plane, ready for the cross country to my father's > farm for Christmas (although I plan to fly some more this week). > > The engine is still running great, although I have a small oil leak > that I'm > too lazy to fix. The new oil cooler inlet was a big improvement. I'm > finally starting to feel like I know how to land this thing. As I was > getting out of the plane I said out loud, "I'm a KR PILOT now"... > > Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:14:59 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> cabin heat To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051223.131523.2252.0.jscott.pilot@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:46:27 -0500 "patrusso" writes: > Anyone out there experiencing lots of condensation on the windscreen, > > inside? My arms are not long enough to wipe the screen. A defroster > looks > like a practical solution to the cab heat discussion. Extended use of a defroster (like forgetting to shut it off once airborn) will cause crazing of the canopy where the hot air hits it. I mop the inside of the canopy with a paper towel until takeoff. Once airborn, the condensation stops. While NM isn't known for being particularly cold, high in the mountains where I live it's as cold as the midwest where I grew up (Iowa). I didn't install a heat exchanger in my KR until the third winter I had it. Sunshine on the canopy was sufficient to keep me warm. When I was flying away from the sun, it got cold in a hurry, which is why I eventually added the heat exchanger. Kind of hard to always avoid flying away from thge sun. :o) Jeff Scott N1213W ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: William Zink Subject: KR> KR2/2s for sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051223203635.55694.qmail@web81608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am looking for a solid flying KR2/2s for sale. I live in Ohio and I'm trying to find one for sale within a reasonable distance. So far the only solid leads I've found have been in Montana and New Brunswick Canada. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The plane doesn't have to be a show stopper just solid construction preferably with basic VFR equipment and a mode c transponder. Bill Zink ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:41:29 -0500 From: "" Subject: Re: KR> KR2/2s for sale To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Bill Where in Montana do you know of one? I live in Montana and am looking for one. Tom Bovington On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:36 , William Zink sent: >I am looking for a solid flying KR2/2s for sale. I live in Ohio and >I'm trying to find one for sale within a reasonable distance. So far the only solid leads I've found have been in Montana and New Brunswick Canada. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The plane doesn't have to be a show stopper just solid construction preferably with basic VFR equipment and a mode c transponder. > > Bill Zink >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:47:21 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> 100 hours on the KR today To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005001c60802$12b70960$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dick wrote: > Since you have been the whole course, perhaps you can share with us > your > entry and landing techniques. The way I land is apparently not the "recommended" way, but I have to land pretty quick on the short bumpy airport that I fly out of (2600' x 40'). Even Troy gets antsy when he has to land there. And since I have split flaps, I'm probably the only guy this procedure applies to. I fly about a 1200' pattern and try to be doing 110-120mph on downwind when I get to the end of the runway. At that point I cut it back to 1600 rpm or so and start slowing and descending until I get to the 45 degree point from the end of the runway, then turn base. Hopefully I'm doing about 100 mph at this point. If it looks like I might be high I'll drop the flaps, or if I'm low I'll wait on flaps, and add or pull power as necessary. I try to maintain 90 while turning final, and most of the way to the ground, then end up doing a little less over the end of the runway. The split flaps keep slowing me down as I cross the end of the runway and get in ground effect, and often I notice that my touchdown is in the high sixties according to the GPS. Since it's a wheel landing, I really don't do that much of a flare...just enough to break the descent and try to gradually touch down. Sometimes I end up three pointing the thing. I guess I operate in the range just between wheel landings and full stall landings. As soon as the wheels touch, I give it some forward stick to plant it and then hold the tail up until I'm below flying speed, or start to run out of runway (that's pretty rare though). Then full stick back and brake, if necessary. I usually don't touch the brakes at all though. I'm sure everybody that knows anything about flying will disagree with this technique, but it works for me. I have no business telling anybody how to land a KR., but I did about 8 landings yesterday, and the g-meter was still sitting on 1g when I landed, so I'm good enough for KR work... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:12:53 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> 100 hours on the KR today To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051223.141253.2252.1.jscott.pilot@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii With 550 hours of KR time and a couple of thousand in tailwheels, I'd say that your technique is A-OK. Your numbers are close enough to mine that the differences in calibration could account for it, let alone the differences in airframes and wings. With the addition of flaps to my plane, my technique has changed to much the same as yours, except that my downwind is usually a bit faster and my final is a touch slower. I use my turn to base to get slowed almost down to flap speed and my turn to final to slow to flap speed, then drop the flaps as needed for final. Hmm. Enough of this talk. It's a gorgeous day. I think it's time to go drag the KR out of the hanger... Jeff Scott N1213W On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:47:21 -0600 "Mark Langford" writes: > Dick wrote: > > > Since you have been the whole course, perhaps you can share with > us your > > entry and landing techniques. > > The way I land is apparently not the "recommended" way, but I have > to land > pretty quick on the short bumpy airport that I fly out of (2600' x > 40'). > Even Troy gets antsy when he has to land there. And since I have > split > flaps, I'm probably the only guy this procedure applies to. > > I fly about a 1200' pattern and try to be doing 110-120mph on > downwind when > I get to the end of the runway. At that point I cut it back to 1600 > rpm or > so and start slowing and descending until I get to the 45 degree > point from > the end of the runway, then turn base. Hopefully I'm doing about 100 > mph at > this point. If it looks like I might be high I'll drop the flaps, > or if I'm > low I'll wait on flaps, and add or pull power as necessary. I try > to > maintain 90 while turning final, and most of the way to the ground, > then end > up doing a little less over the end of the runway. The split flaps > keep > slowing me down as I cross the end of the runway and get in ground > effect, > and often I notice that my touchdown is in the high sixties > according to the > GPS. > > Since it's a wheel landing, I really don't do that much of a > flare...just > enough to break the descent and try to gradually touch down. > Sometimes I > end up three pointing the thing. I guess I operate in the range > just > between wheel landings and full stall landings. As soon as the > wheels > touch, I give it some forward stick to plant it and then hold the > tail up > until I'm below flying speed, or start to run out of runway (that's > pretty > rare though). Then full stick back and brake, if necessary. I > usually > don't touch the brakes at all though. > > I'm sure everybody that knows anything about flying will disagree > with this > technique, but it works for me. I have no business telling anybody > how to > land a KR., but I did about 8 landings yesterday, and the g-meter > was still > sitting on 1g when I landed, so I'm good enough for KR work... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:39:44 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR>Marry Xmas To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008901c60809$63f33950$c2a8443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Marry Xmas or Happy Holiday to you all, from under Australia Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:43:02 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR>Marry Xmas To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00aa01c60809$da6ecc20$c2a8443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sorry all. TRY from DOWN Under. Marry Xmas Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 523 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================