From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 527 Date: 12/26/2005 9:00:10 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: new (recycled) KR builder (patrusso) 2. kr trivia (Flymaca711689@aol.com) 3. Re: Corvair ignition (AVLEC) 4. Foam (density) (Eduardo Navarrete) 5. Re: Foam (density) (Mark Jones) 6. WEB page (Eric Pitts) 7. Re: WEB page (Dan Heath) 8. Re: kr trivia (Scott Stanton) 9. Re: new (recycled) KR builder - NH ( michaela ) 10. On the gear! (Brian Kraut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:32:04 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> new (recycled) KR builder To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000801c60a18$616b6980$70a772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Paul,Where in NH? I am just across the Conn. river, a bit north of dartmouth. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: KR> new (recycled) KR builder > Hello; If you are reading this on Christmas Eve, you must be a die > hard > KR2er. > > I am a builder in NH of a plans built KR2. The airplane was started > by me > 10 or so years ago and has met the ups and downs so common to us all. > Plans bought before the stretch version; modified to add two feet aft of > cockpit and 2" forward of the origional firewall. The concept is of a > single person ac so there will be a radio stack below the instrument panel > between my legs. I had holes drilled in the panel for IFR instruments but > have since filled them back in. Plain VFR now. > > The ac is well along (90% rule) on fixed gear and has a HAPI VW on the > nose with a wooden (Wranke I think) prop. Controlled engine start was > today as we are having very non-NH weather. Wings are Diehl skins. > > Paul > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:43:02 EST From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: KR> kr trivia To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" HI ALL merry Christmas before 9/11 on the wings channel they had eaa sport aviation TV show. any buddy now who that lucky Kr pilot is? star in my eyes this is airborne formation shot at the end of the show i believe it was osh WI 98- or 99 maybe 10 sec at the very end this is on modified kr retractable gear last flight xmas eve next flight soon as possble mac ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:48:38 +0200 From: "AVLEC" Subject: Re: KR> Corvair ignition To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000001c60a50$fb58cc80$b2a6fea9@dene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colin, if you had the oppertunity to see the system in Serg's plane, you would see how simple it really is. You literally just remove it from the donor motorcycle and install it on the motor of your choice( any motor, any number of cylinders. By just seperating the power supply to the seperate ignitions, you end up with a totally seperate ignition system for every two cylinders (for odd number of cylinders just leave off one of the plug leads). In the case of a VW I doubt that you would be able to stay in the air with two cylinders but with the corvair 3100 that I should be getting soon, if one of the three independant ignitions should fail I would be left with the equivalent of an out of tune type IV VW to take me home! That system in Serg's plane has done probably in the region of 600 hrs + without as much as a hickup. It also needs zero maintenance except to check the electrical connections now and then.Thats reliability in my book! It even has centrifugal advance!! It doesn't get much simpler than that. Regards Dene Collett KR2SRT builder South africa Whisper assembler See: www.whisperaircraft.com mailto: avlec@telkomsa.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Rainey" To: Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 02:42 Subject: KR> Corvair ignition > Dene > If you are going to go to that much trouble with the ignition system, > when there is very little faults with the original system, and a Petronics electronic update from either Summit Racing or Clark's Corvairs will eliminate any other normal failure. Modern electronic ignition systems do not just "quit" as in days gone past, if it is a quality system. > > You can use an external GM crank sensor, or cam sensor, and install a > 3 tiered trigger system, then have 3 GM late model capacitive coils which is what they use on the Aerovee VW engine, and trigger each one individually, hooked up to the 2 companion cylinders so that one is firing on the exhaust stroke while the other is firing on compression stroke. The only problem with that type of simple system is it is fixed timing, unless you figure out how to incorporate an ignition module. Since caps, rotors, and normal use distributor shafts don't fail in use suddenly, but rather deteriorate slowly over time, a pilot will notice they are wearing out before failure. Therefore, that is ALOT of engineering to go through for very little pay off, and will definitely hurt peak performance. > > Most sudden failures of ignition systems today are actually systems > that have been ignored, and driven with for some time, until the vehicle will not operate any more. From my observation here, KR pilots are ALOT more conscientious and will abort takeoffs and determine the problem, instead of flying anyway, and "worry about it later" attitude. > > If it makes a difference I will be flying behind a single ignition > system, of electronic type, and vacuum advance distributor, and expect with regular maintenance and attention to have the same reliability as I have in my driveway... > > Merry Christmas from our family to yours, including our "new baby boy" Zeus, a 2 pound miniature Doberman/rat terrier mix. > > Colin Rainey > brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:11:54 -0600 (CST) From: Eduardo Navarrete Subject: KR> Foam (density) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051226201154.19612.qmail@web35613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, everyone. I am going to fill the wings and i need to know the density of the foam. What density dou you recommends me to do it. Happy new year Salu2 Eduardo Navarrete Quito-Ecuador +593-9-8243079 (cell) +593-2-2344568 (home) +593-2-2906898 (office) __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:49:18 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Foam (density) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002301c60a66$3924e8e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 2 lb is the density. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Navarrete" To: Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: KR> Foam (density) Hi, everyone. I am going to fill the wings and i need to know the density of the foam. What density dou you recommends me to do it. Happy new year Salu2 Eduardo Navarrete Quito-Ecuador +593-9-8243079 (cell) +593-2-2344568 (home) +593-2-2906898 (office) __________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:40:12 -0500 From: "Eric Pitts" Subject: KR> WEB page To: "KRNET" Message-ID: <007701c60a6d$56202ca0$a5524a0c@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just added a new page covering the Dual control sticks. Let me know if it does not work. Eric Pitts Terre Haute Indiana KR2S http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:50:17 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> WEB page To: Message-ID: <43B073A9.000001.02064@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is it complete or are you still working on it, because I only saw part of the stick construction. I like the jig, I should have done it like that. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- Just added a new page covering the Dual control sticks. Let me know if it does not work. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:33:00 -0500 From: Scott Stanton Subject: Re: KR> kr trivia To: KRnet Message-ID: <43B099CC.4080308@ctc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Since nobody else is guessing I'll guess Skip Carden. Scott Stanton Raleigh NC Flymaca711689@aol.com wrote: > HI ALL merry Christmas before 9/11 on the wings channel they had eaa sport > aviation TV show. any buddy now who that lucky Kr pilot is? star in my > eyes this is airborne formation shot at the end of the show i believe > it was > osh WI 98- or 99 maybe 10 sec at the very end this is on modified kr > retractable gear > > > > > > > > > last flight xmas eve > next flight soon as possble > mac > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:09:11 +0000 From: " michaela " Subject: Re: KR> new (recycled) KR builder - NH To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <20051227020911.4223.qmail@server298.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat, Paul: I'll be visiting my folks in N.H. in mid-late January (I grew up in Bellows Falls, VT). Would love to see an actual KR2S in progress, live and in person. Any chance I could stop by for a peek? Thanks. - Tony > -------Original Message------- > From: patrusso > Subject: Re: KR> new (recycled) KR builder > Sent: 26 Dec '05 12:32 > > Paul,Where in NH? I am just across the Conn. river, a bit north of > dartmouth. Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:29 PM > Subject: KR> new (recycled) KR builder > > > > Hello;  If you are reading this on Christmas Eve, you must be a die > hard > KR2er. > > > I am a builder in NH of a plans built KR2.  The airplane was started by me > > 10 or so years ago and has met the ups and downs so common to us all. > > Plans bought before the stretch version; modified to add two feet aft of > > cockpit and 2" forward of the origional firewall. The concept is of a > > single person ac so there will be a radio stack below the instrument panel > > between my legs.  I had holes drilled in the panel for IFR instruments but > > have since filled them back in.  Plain VFR now. > > > > The ac is well along (90% rule) on fixed gear and has a HAPI VW on the > > nose with a wooden (Wranke I think) prop.  Controlled engine start was > > today as we are having very non-NH weather.  Wings are Diehl skins. > > > > Paul > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:02:13 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> On the gear! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a progress report for those of you that think I am flying the Stang all the time and not working on the KR at all. I just got the Grove gear on the KR and have it back sitting on its own wheels. It is a real good feeling after having it hang by the engine mount from the rafters in my garage for two weeks. Even though the Grove is probably easier than the Diehl for a refit, it is still a bunch of work. They don't have attach brackets so I made some up out of 3/8" 6061 aluminum plate. I welded them up then had them heat treated back to T6 temper. I also had my Diehl type brackets for the 2S done at the same time. Taking the old retract gear off is a real pain and took me about three nights after work. This is my second KR I have done this to and it doesn't get easier the second time. It is a real pain because you are leaning into the plane from outside while it is hanging from the ceiling. You can't get in and work because you have to take the seat out. Now that I can roll it around I am going to roll it into the driveway while I wall up the garage door and change that garage into my office. Then I can clean out my other garage and have a big workshop again. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 527 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================