From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 533 Date: 12/29/2005 9:00:27 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: tower trip (Bob Glidden) 2. RE: tower trip (Steve Bray) 3. CG location on a KR2 (Ryan) 4. Re: tower trip (Mark Jones) 5. Re: Newbie -- VW and Corvair (Dann Johnson) 6. Re: Newbie -- VW and Corvair (Phil Matheson) 7. Re: VW and Corvair (Robert L. Stone) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:32 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> tower trip To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009c01c60ce8$baa0bc80$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I'm going on a tour of our local tower Saturday.And then a friend of mine works at the Indianapolis center and is going to take a few of us to see it down the road...The centers are really interesting... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:31:51 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: RE: KR> tower trip To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mark I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe how much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would make time for them. I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get many visitors, unless they were pissed. Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when your windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a diffrence. They will remember you. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Mark Langford" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: KR> tower trip >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:53:55 -0600 > >NetHeads, > >Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to >fly >to >Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned on >dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy day, so I >thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the workload >couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy but >"come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking at >all >the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good >explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get handed >off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of good stuff. >The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in June during my >emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we had a good time >talking the whole thing over. > >The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You >can find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and pick >your region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them a >call. He said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing around >talking to all the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them >up long enough and bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, >and I came away with a much better understanding of what the guys on >the other end of the radio are doing... > >Mark Langford, Harvest, AL >see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com >email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:57:01 -0800 From: "Ryan" Subject: KR> CG location on a KR2 To: Message-ID: <200512300257.jBU2v0V7017547@ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What are your CG locations on your personal KR2's , forward of aft ? Ryan ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:18:17 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> tower trip To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003401c60cf8$0fef46c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's interesting. I have a cub scout tour of our airport and control tower scheduled as a field trip for the group. It is a couple of months out but am really looking forward to it and the scouts think this is way too cool. We are going to try and get some Young Eagles flights in also. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: KR> tower trip > NetHeads, > > Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to > fly to > Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned on > dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy day, so > I thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the workload > couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy but > "come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking at all > the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good > explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get > handed off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of > good stuff. The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in > June during my emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we > had a good time talking the whole thing over. > > The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You > can find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and > pick your region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them > a call. He said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing > around talking to all > the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long > enough and > bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away > with a much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of > the radio are > doing... > > Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:24:27 -0800 (PST) From: Dann Johnson Subject: Re: KR>Newbie -- VW and Corvair To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051230042427.3732.qmail@web411.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mark, Larry, Mark Langford has shared so much good information on web pages, that most anything he says is fine with me. But people do throw rocks... like the A & P that I shot the breese with a couple months back. My local A & P scoffed at both Corvair and VW.. he said get a "real airplane engine". Right now, I still don't have an ready to fly engine. I have a disassembled corvair safe and dry in a crate, but I am on the look out for a reasonably priced VW that will get me in the air. After the November EAA chapter meeting in Mankato, Mn , I got to see a corvair powered dragonfly II run. The owner had taken out a vw engine, sold it, replacing it with a corvair.. As a result had most of a year as down time. He was very proud of his corvair engine, but it still wasn't running quite up to par. As I understand it, he was using VW jugs, and shortened connecting rods.. etc. Kind of a hybrid VW/ Corvair. More horse power, less weight. Dann Johnson Thompson, Iowa Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:02:00 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR>Newbie -- VW and Corvair To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002501c60cdc$a42da0f0$0202a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Phil Matheson wrote: > I was planing a full reply to Marks comments, as I was very disappointed. I'm sorry I disappointed you. My comments were based on the posts of several folks on the list who are either building or flying behind VWs that have said they'd rather have a Corvair in their plane, if they could start over. There are several folks who were flying behind VWs that recently switched to the Corvair. Here's a short list: Bob Lester, Steve Makish, Steve Jones, and Bill Clapp used to fly a VW in his earlier KR2. Why didn't Bill build his new S with a VW engine? Steve Glover was in the process of converting from VW to Corvair when he sold his airplane. There are several folks who've bought VW powered projects that are now converting them to Corvair power (like Colin Rainey). I don't know of a single soul who's flown behind a Corvair that wants to go back to a VW. I even know one guy with an 0-200 in his plane that's planning on installing a Corvair. But I'll try to keep my biased comments to myself in the future... Mark Langford, Harvest, AL see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:34:21 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR>Newbie -- VW and Corvair To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000c01c60cfa$4e784520$a4a1443d@pii433> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark Your comments are always welcome. I'm sorry I posted my concerns. I'll also try not to take thinks to heart. Thanks for your support and assistance over the years Phillip Matheson VHPKR Australia. mathesonp@dodo.com.au http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:55:18 -0600 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> VW and Corvair To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007a01c60cfd$3b704330$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The Jabiru 3300 is now $14,900 from Jabiru USA in Wisconsin. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: KR> VW and Corvair >I think you can put the Jab 3300 on your KR for about the same weight, less > space, both, in your plane and pocket book. Isn't it around $16000 that > will get you there? More than most of us have in the entire plane > including > engine and instruments. > > Any engine that get's and keeps me in the air, is a good engine. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > is OVER. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > -------Original Message------- > > From: Larry&Sallie Flesner > Date: 12/29/05 20:13:12 > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> VW and Corvair > >> >>"I think most VW guys wish >>they had a Corvair, because it doesn't weigh that much more, but has a lot >>more power than a VW." > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > I'm convinced that the size / type of our engines is proportional to the > size of our bank account. Any of us offered more power for the same > money and weight would jump on it in an instant. We try to get the most > bang for our buck and the VW offers that. How many of us would say > "no thanks" if offered a swap for a 120hp Jabaru. So much for brand > loyalty. It appears that the Corvair is a good choice for more power for > what appears a modest , if any, increase in cost. Hell, I wish I had > an 0-300 !! As it stands, I got lucky and have less in my 0-200 than > most have in a small bore VW. > > I suspect that Mark just uttered something we all think if we'll admit it. > More power ='s more speed, > and even more power ='s even more speed !! > > I would advise not to take Mark's comment personal or consider it > to be a put-down. I know he didn't mean it that way. Wasn't the VW > Mark's first choice for an engine? > > And Phil, as to the geared RG2000, I suspect there are many builders > on the net that would snatch that up in an instant also. > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 533 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================