From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 70 Date: 2/14/2005 9:00:18 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: wecome new member (Born2Fly32570@wmconnect.com) 2. Re: new member (Orma) 3. Re: C-GDPU has finally become a airplane today (Jim Sellars) 4. NOT KR Related (Mark Jones) 5. Re: NOT KR Related (robert glidden) 6. Re: NOT KR Related (Ron Smith) 7. Re: NOT KR Related (Ron Smith) 8. Not KR Related (ronevogt@cox.net) 9. Re: new member (Ron Smith) 10. Re: new member (pole shed) 11. RE: recovery parachute system (Doug Rupert) 12. Re: NOT KR Related (Bubba) 13. Getting money back on my taxes (Ron Smith) 14. Re: Getting money back on my taxes (Matthew Elder) 15. Re: Getting money back on my taxes (Bubba) 16. Re: Getting money back on my taxes (pole shed) 17. Re: Getting money back on my taxes (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:45:55 EST From: Born2Fly32570@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> wecome new member To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" welcome to the groop. I am a two week old member myself, and have found all the wisdom the members have to be a great help in my restoration of my Huricane damaged KR2. I hope to somday fly mine to the gathering in indiana. I wish I could say that I was just starting mine. The joiy I have had in the work ive done so far could only be surpassed by getting to builb one from ground up. have fun ferris mcgee milton Fl. N61305 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 08:32:49 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> new member To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000701c51299$afce3430$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Net and especially the new members The pride and joy that you feel now will only intensify as you work your way along toward completion. Of all the kids that dream of flying only a few become pilots. Of that group only a portion become plane owners. Of the plane owners, very few of us has what it takes to start or finish a project. Lastly of those who do complete their project, not all of them have the nerve to get in and fly. Keep it light and build it right. Welcome to the KRnet. May your building hours be filled with pleasure and your wives full of patience. When you finally get airborne the grin will never go away. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:44:42 -0400 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> C-GDPU has finally become a airplane today To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006401c5129b$56dbbf80$6501a8c0@main> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes Bill I can attest to the great manouvers and the great video. Good to hear you are back at it. I hopeto have number three in the air this spring. Best regards Jim Sellars ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: RE: KR> C-GDPU has finally become a airplane today > Brian, I have a video tape, the KR had 8 hours on it at the time, > filmed both from the ground looking up and from inside the KR. > > I made a copy and sent it New Brunswick, another copy went out to > western Canada. I haven't seen hide or tail of them since. In any > event they are simple manoeuvres, wing-overs, Lazy eights, barrel > Rolls, Slow Role and aileron roll, I have also done spins . > Manoeuvres are fluid, as I don't have an inverted system, it is only a > Continental 85F, without electrics, It is one of the best little > aerobatic airplanes I've had the pleasure to fly in 34 years. My > joints are too old to take any more G's. so everything is slow and > lightly positive. On my way to the great white north (James Bay) for > the next couple weeks. any further and you'll fall off the earth. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:41:30 -0600 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> NOT KR Related To: "KR Net (E-mail)" Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC2025ED215@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is an amazing story of how events unfold in a crash. Maybe some of you would like to fly with this young lady. NTSB Identification: CHI05LA067 14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation Accident occurred Thursday, February 03, 2005 in Sturtevant, WI Aircraft: Cessna 152, registration: N68714 Injuries: 1 Uninjured. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. On February 3, 2005, at 1500 central standard time, a Cessna 152, N68714, experienced a nose gear collapse during a precautionary landing in a field in Sturtevant, Wisconsin. The student pilot was not injured. The airplane received substantial damage. The 14 CFR Part 91 solo instructional flight was operating in visual meteorological conditions and a visual flight rules flight plan was filed. The flight departed from the Rock County Airport (JVL), Janesville, Wisconsin, at 1255, with an intended destination of Witmann Regional Airport (OSH), Oshkosh, Wisconsin. The pilot stated the accident occurred during a solo cross county flight. She stated the flight was planned from the Waukegan Regional Airport (UGN), Waukegan, Illinois, to JVL, to OSH, then back to UGN. She stated she flew uneventfully to JVL where she topped off the airplane with 26 gallons of fuel. The pilot stated that approximately 15 to 20 minutes after departing JVL, she dialed in the OSH very high frequency omnirange navigational equipement (VOR), but was unable to pick up a signal. She stated she then tried to listen to the OSH automated terminal information service (ATIS), at which time she realized that the aircraft radios were not working. The pilot stated since OSH was a controlled field she decided to return to UNG instead of going to OSH. The pilot stated she was over Fond Du Lac, Wisconsin, when she made this decision. She stated she turned south and flew west of Milwaukee at 2,000 feet mean sea level (msl) then turned to follow the highway to UGN. She stated she then noticed that the fuel gauges were indicating that the fuel tanks were empty. The pilot stated she knew the airplane should have had plenty of fuel, but she thought that maybe a fuel cap was left off when the airplane was fueled or that the airplane was losing fuel for some other reason. She stated she started looking for a field in which to land when she realized that the Sylvania Airport (C89) was about 2 miles in front of her. The pilot stated that at this time she did not realize that there was a problem with the electrical system. The pilot stated she was too high to make a straight in approach to land on runway 28, so she decided to make a right traffic pattern entry for runway 08. She stated she lowered the flap handle while in the traffic pattern, but the flaps did not extend. The pilot stated she tried to turn onto final approach at an altitude of about 300 feet above the ground, but the airplane wouldn't turn. She stated the airplane would yaw, but it wouldn't bank. She stated she knew she was not going to make it to the runway so she located a field in which to land. The pilot stated that as she was heading to the field, the stall warning horn sounded so she lowered the nose of the airplane. She stated the field had a slight rise so she held the airplane off the ground as long as possible. The nose gear contacted snow during the landing, and the nose gear collapsed. Post accident inspection of the airplane by inspectors from the Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Federal Aviation Administration Flight Standards District Office, revealed corrosion was present at the wiring connectors on the master switch. The inspectors also established continuity of the flight control system. Index for Feb2005 | Index of months <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<...OLE_Obj...>> Bottom of Form 0 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:10:52 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> NOT KR Related To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007201c512d1$48f04d60$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" See....when you fly airplanes that don't have electrical systems,you don't have to worry about all that fancy stuff not working.I guess one could say she had a BAD day... > This is an amazing story of how events unfold in a crash. Maybe some > of you > would like to fly with this young lady. > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> NOT KR Related To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050214204200.62353.qmail@web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mark Jones wrote: Maybe some of you would like to fly with this young lady. Seeing as she walked away. Yes. I hope that in an emergency situation a collapsed nose gear is the worst thing that would happen. Rons Smith. KR2s boat stage. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> NOT KR Related To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050214204227.12218.qmail@web81704.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mark Jones wrote: Maybe some of you would like to fly with this young lady. Seeing as she walked away. Yes. I hope that in an emergency situation a collapsed nose gear is the worst thing that would happen. Rons Smith. KR2s boat stage. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 15:47:32 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Not KR Related To: Message-ID: <20050214204730.BBPU6409.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Netters; This story is a good example of how accidents are many times the results of multiple failures. That's why it is so important for a CFI to include at lease a few simulated emergencies on each lesson. My favorite is this one: I point out the windscreen to the 10 o'clock position and say to the student, "Hey, isn't that the Blue Angels?" They look every time, as I reach over and pull the throttle back. We both get a good laugh...and they always remember their engine failure proceed after that. RV ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:48:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> new member To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050214204826.63673.qmail@web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii pole shed wrote: I have finally joined the ranks of KR builders. I purchased a project this weekend, and even managed to get it home and into storage about 5 minutes before it rained. My girlfriend said I had a silly grin on my face all weekend. OOOORAH!!!!! Larry Lipe Carbondale,IL MSGT USMC(ret) Welcome, How far along is your project? Below the 51% mark? I'm not a Marine, but Semper Fi! ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:51:41 -0800 (PST) From: pole shed Subject: Re: KR> new member To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050214205141.27802.qmail@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I still have the wings to make, the instruments to do, cables, etc, so yes it is below 50% done. Larry Lipe Carbondale,IL MSGT USMC(ret) > > How far along is your project? Below the 51% mark? > I'm not a Marine, but Semper Fi! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:51:44 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> recovery parachute system To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <003501c512df$61c22e90$206cd1d8@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" The way I look at it personally would be to install with the idea of never having to deploy. Just dummy up and don't tell the insurance company squat. Should you ever end up in situation where it had to be deployed you could then at least be alive to argue with the insurance meatheads at a later date. Doug Rupert -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:53:29 -0600 From: "Bubba" Subject: Re: KR> NOT KR Related To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <09dd01c512f8$c3f6d4d0$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original robert glidden wrote: > See....when you fly airplanes that don't have electrical systems,you > don't have to worry about all that fancy stuff not working.I guess one > could say she had a BAD day... Not as bad of a day as the mechanic should have had the next time he showed up at work... -- Steve N205FT mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:27:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> Getting money back on my taxes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050215032719.40218.qmail@web81703.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My wife wants a bathroom remodel, I want a bubble canopy! Hmmmmmmm........ ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:28:51 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Elder Subject: Re: KR> Getting money back on my taxes To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050215032851.76132.qmail@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well you can't possibly remodel a bathroom for as cheap as you can buy the canopy... :-) I think it's obvious! Matt Ron Smith wrote: My wife wants a bathroom remodel, I want a bubble canopy! Hmmmmmmm........ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder My Airplane Project: http://kr1.infinigral.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:34:42 -0600 From: "Bubba" Subject: Re: KR> Getting money back on my taxes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <0aac01c51317$ab4ea240$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Matthew Elder wrote: > Well you can't possibly remodel a bathroom for as cheap as you can buy > the canopy... :-) I think it's obvious! I could, but then I have enough stuff ratted away that I wouldn't have to buy much. I'm keeping it stashed for a time when I really need the extra wife points ;) -- Steve N205FT mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:36:06 -0800 (PST) From: pole shed Subject: Re: KR> Getting money back on my taxes To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050215043606.96036.qmail@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The remodel might be cheaper than the canopy and the doghouse, or worse, a divorce. I, onthe other hand, welcomed my divorce, but it wasnt because of remodelling the bathroom. She didnt want me to fly.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:58:30 -0500 From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Getting money back on my taxes To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <5A23C30D.063B2473.83FC6405@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 She didnt want me to fly.... Then she's got to go for sure! Maybe thats why im still single too. Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 70 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================