From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 87 Date: 2/27/2005 9:00:14 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Joey 2 - I will call mine Cobber (Stephen Jacobs) 2. photo address - Jaco Swanepoel (Pueblo Airconditioning) 3. Wing Attach Fittings on eBay (Mark Jones) 4. gathering photos (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 5. RE: gathering photos (Brian Kraut) 6. Attachments (Dan Heath) 7. Tail Skid/Tie Down (Jim Morehead) 8. Re: Steve Jones...bravo...well done (FIXERJONES@aol.com) 9. Temporarily Leaving (Mark Youkey) 10. Re: Tail Skid/Tie Down (larry flesner) 11. Re: gathering photos (larry flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:52:23 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> Joey 2 - I will call mine Cobber To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001b01c51cb2$0c646670$be64a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From what I understand, Gary has stretched the KR2S some what and modified/improved the design. He has also made many pre-formed parts and had the redesigned aircraft and pre-formed parts approved as a kit in Australia. This, I feel, is a great step forward in the evolution of our wonderful ++++++++++++++++++ I totally agree - what has he done wrong? There are other people that offer KR bits - landing gears, canopies, wing skins, metal parts etc. He just figured to first improve the design - then make parts, kits etc. There is a greater difference between the Joey and a KR2S built to plan then there was between the first KR and the airplane it was copied from - as we know, the KR series has its roots (very close copy) of one of the original "home built" airplanes - open cockpit, RAF 48 and all. RR added the folding legs. With great respect to the original KR designer(s) - the design was never really a useable two seat airplane of any great note. It worked in the sense that you could cram in two small souls and go fast with a VW for not much money. Most of them are flying well over there design weight and power. Many have been intelligently modified to cope with the new role, many may not have been. The KR was a great lesson in a new building technique using readily available "space age" materials 30 years ago. It was cheap and easy (quick) to build and thus received attention. There are many, many airplanes out there that cashed in on this technique. It is the innovation and skill of the individual builder that evolved the KR to something very special. Have a close look at the RV's, Lancairs, Falco's, GP4's etc. - not much deviation in the basic airplane, they are generally built to plan. I have not seen too many folks make a retract RV or a fixed leg Falco. You have to ask why. Yes - it was inevitable that someone would hang a turbine on an RV (or a KR) - but that aside. Not many KR's are the same - each one has something longer, bigger, wider, taller, stronger etc. You have to ask why. Built and powered to plan, a KR2S (in my opinion) is a nice airplane for those that it suits. Garry Morgan changed all the things that did not suite him and came up with exactly what most KR builders want (and do anyway), but the changes were properly re-engineered to handle the revised requirements (loads/ duty /speeds). He has produced a better mousetrap - and had it approved as such. It is available in a variety of kits /sub kits and he has done the engineering around different engine installations. Not unlike most KR2SX's around - it is a very different airplane to what comes off the plans. I cannot see how anyone can take umbrage to that. Some could even argue that you should really to call it something else if you deviate from the plans to that extent. If one of the radically different KR's (and there are many) crashed and upset the insurance on all the other's - bet you there will be plenty of chirping about NOT calling it a KR. Steve J Africa ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:03:14 +0200 From: "Pueblo Airconditioning" Subject: KR> photo address - Jaco Swanepoel To: Message-ID: <001e01c51cc4$51f90850$0a0aa8c0@PUEBLO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The address of the photo album is: http://jacokr2s.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php Mark, you are right. My intention is to make the nose wheel steerable via push rods from the rudder pedals. The album will be updated with new photos in two weeks. The update will include fuel tanks, canopy, interior and outer wings. Safe flying, Jaco Swanepoel ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 08:51:39 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Wing Attach Fittings on eBay To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <002401c51cdb$dcb82b80$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26442&item=4529637776&rd=1 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:35:12 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: KR> gathering photos To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <15b.4ba3f0ac.2f5350c0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Has anybody heard whether the Gathering 04 photos are available yet? I think that a guy named Bob was working on them? Anybody know a cheap source for a 1156 LED bulb in Green? I can buy the red ones locally for about $9 but yet have been able to locate a green one - for nav light assy that I am making. Bill ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:43:39 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> gathering photos To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" www.mouser.com/sunbrite Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of IFLYKRS@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:35 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> gathering photos Has anybody heard whether the Gathering 04 photos are available yet? I think that a guy named Bob was working on them? Anybody know a cheap source for a 1156 LED bulb in Green? I can buy the red ones locally for about $9 but yet have been able to locate a green one - for nav light assy that I am making. Bill _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:22:51 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Attachments To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4222483B.000005.01244@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Paul wrote: > My question was, how do we attach them on the fire-wall, and how do we > attach them on the fiberglass cowl? I am thinking to floss them on (no > rivets). Our attachments to the firewall are with wood screws, not my favorite, but I guess you can't hurt the plywood of the firewall too much. The attachments to the cowling are with recessed rivets, covered with a layer of glass. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 19:17:34 -0800 From: Jim Morehead Subject: KR> Tail Skid/Tie Down To: KR- Net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Netters. I¹m thinking of making a ³tail skid/tie down² for my trigger KR2 out of carbon fiber. At last years Gathering I measured one made of steel that was 1/4² thick 1 1/4² wide and 10² long. Possible made out of 4130. What is your feeling carbon fiber vs 4130? Should it be built up thicker that 1/4²? Should it be wrapped with a layer carbon fiber ? Thanks, Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:34:12 EST From: FIXERJONES@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones...bravo...well done To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" well,i can't wait to see the story on my n212kr in eaa mag! well guys, the airframe is approching prime & paint on repairs & i'll have a suprise for all, with a new firewall forward set up, somewhere around 150 hp! it's in the works & with a lot of luck, i'll be at snf trying for 2 in a row. started all this only 7 weeks ago & workin day & nite to get it goin,,,,steve jones ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:52:52 -0600 From: "Mark Youkey" Subject: KR> Temporarily Leaving To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <001901c51d48$fa7464f0$6500a8c0@blah> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All, I've been a fly on the wall as of late, and now I'm unsubscribing, but only because I'm losing my internet for a few months, as I move from OK to Alaska. Thanks for all the great insights and ideas. You've all been a great wealth of information. (Most of it good ;) ). Build safe and fly right. Thanks again, Mark (not the Langford one) ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:16:12 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Tail Skid/Tie Down To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050227221612.0081d9a0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I¹m thinking of making a ³tail skid/tie down² for my trigger KR2 >out of carbon fiber. At last years Gathering I measured one made of >steel that was 1/4² thick 1 1/4² wide and 10² long. Jim Morehead +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jim, There really is no reason your tri-gear KR needs a tailskid. It sounds to me like you were looking at a KR that had been converted from a taildragger to a tri-gear and the tailspring was never removed. All you need is to place a solid block in the tail between the longerons and use an eye bolt for a tiedown ring or any other secure fastener that you can develop. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:21:11 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> gathering photos To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050227222111.00829660@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:35 AM 2/27/05 EST, you wrote: >Has anybody heard whether the Gathering 04 photos are available yet? I >think that a guy named Bob was working on them? >Anybody know a cheap source for a 1156 LED bulb in Green? I can buy >the red >ones locally for about $9 but yet have been able to locate a green one >- for >nav light assy that I am making. >Bill +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I assume you're talking about the Gathering video and not Gathering photos. There are many photos already posted on the net. The "Bob" you're referring to is Video Bob and he will announce when the video is completed. As for the bulbs, I too would like to get a green, red, and white LED lamp assy at a reasonable (read cheap) price. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 87 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================