From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 98 Date: 3/10/2005 9:00:19 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Future enhancements (Mac McConnell-Wood) 2. Re: Sport Aviation (rparker) 3. Re: Future enhancements (phillip matheson) 4. Re: Future enhancements (F Ross) 5. Re: aluminum wing tanks (Mark Langford) 6. Re: aluminum wing tanks (BEARLKBOB@aol.com) 7. (no subject) (marko jaksic) 8. Taxi testing yesterday. (Mark Jones) 9. Re: Taxi testing yesterday. (Jeff Scott) 10. KR Cowl on eBay (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 11. Re: Taxi testing yesterday. (Dan Heath) 12. longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer (larry flesner) 13. RE: Taxi testing yesterday. (Brian Kraut) 14. RE: longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer (Brian Kraut) 15. Re: longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer (robert glidden) 16. fast experimental (larry flesner) 17. RE: longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer (larry flesner) 18. Re: longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer (Joseph H Horton) 19. Re: How many days??? (Mark Jones) 20. Wood (William Jeffries) 21. 183 days till the Gathering. You guys better start packing so you will not be late. (Dan Heath) 22. Re: 183 days till the Gathering. You guys better start packing soyou will not be late. (Barry Kruyssen) 23. Re: Wood (Bavo) 24. wood (Don Chisholm) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:55:09 +0000 From: "Mac McConnell-Wood" Subject: RE: KR> Future enhancements To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Barry, Someone on the net has used 100mm plastic water pipe in the leading edge. Might be worth checking out: if the plastic is fuel proof it would save a lot of vinylester grief. Regards Mac UK >FroMacm: "Barry Kruyssen" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: KR> Future enhancements >Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:48:39 +1000 > > >Any comments welcome > >Thanks >Barry Kruyssen >Cairns, Australia >RAA 19-3873 > >kr2@BigPond.com >http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:12:01 -0500 From: "rparker" Subject: KR> Re: Sport Aviation To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050310111201.7200.qmail@server278.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good artice on Steves plane. We all need to write and remind sport aviation that this aircraft is what homebuilt aircrafts are all about - not snap together RV type kits. $12.2k sounds pretty good but I'll, have that beat by a few K. It helps to have picked up a completely rebuilt corvair engine for $208, a warp drive prop for $150, GPS/Com for $300, Diehl gear for $150, wheels, brakes, brakes cylinders for $150 (all from crashed planes) and used local building supply for foam. The biggest money items I bought were dragonfly canopy, and Deihl skins for $2k total. You have to be in a position to act quick when the opportunities arise to get the best deal. Rich Parker Peterborough, NH rparker@wwhotspots.com http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:52:03 +1100 From: "phillip matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Future enhancements To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005d01c52567$9434e1c0$1daa443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Barry What about making or get made, Aluminium tanks and slide it in and glue in some brackets? or some round long tanks forward of the main spars on the outer wings. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 04:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: F Ross Subject: Re: KR> Future enhancements To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050310120418.5726.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Barry Kruyssen wrote: .... > I'm thinking of building fibreglass fuel tanks into > my wing stubs working from the sides, not cutting .... > Thanks > Barry Kruyssen Barry, Bill Clapp's KR has an idea you may be able to use. He has two pvc (poly-vinyl-chloride, I believe) pipes about four inches in diameter and about four feet long lying side-by-side in his outer wing. While you may not be able to do that exactly that way, it's worth a look. I know there are photos on Mark Langford's site at: http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/ (scroll down about 20 photos) and you can see another on my "KR" album, at my yahoo photos album, find the link below my signature and look at the third photo, top row. Also, somewhere I've seen photos of older South African KRs with tip-tanks. I understand they only used the front half for fuel, but you may be able to get what you need from that, as well. Good luck, Frank Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:48:37 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR>aluminum wing tanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <133601c5256f$8a895220$2802a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phil Matheson wrote: > What about making or get made, Aluminium tanks and slide it in and > glue in > some brackets? > or some round long tanks forward of the main spars on the outer wings. We had this conversation last September. Allen G. Wiesner mentioned that source of thin-wall aluminum irrigation pipe would make a dandy tank (it comes in 2-12" diameters), and I think Larry Flesner came up with inserting anti-sloshing baffles made of aluminum discs skewered through a small center tube. That's probably what I'll do when I add fuel to my wings. There are more details in the KRnet search engine, found at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/search , using "irrigation" as the keyword. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:08:03 EST From: BEARLKBOB@aol.com Subject: Re: KR>aluminum wing tanks To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" the irrigation pipe idea sounds like the spar tank in my AA1 Yankee. If you want a copy of the baffle and tank layout , I will scan it and post it. The system has some drawbacks involving no fuel in a stall spin, but you guys can beat that with a bit of improvement. Bob Polgreen ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:33:45 +0800 From: "marko jaksic" Subject: KR> (no subject) To: Message-ID: <000e01c52586$8c9c8340$79111dd3@markoulcfu3ugy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:35:35 -0600 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> Taxi testing yesterday. To: "KR Net (E-mail)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549D902@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was doing a little taxi testing yesterday after work and there was a Cessna 172 doing pattern work. He saw me out on the runway and called me saying "28U to the white Glasair doing taxi runs, copy?" Well, there was no one else on the airport so I knew he was calling me. Basically he was just wanting to talk to someone and when he responded back, he commented to me "that sure is a nice looking Glasair". Well I responded telling him I am a KR and not a Glasair. He was amazed and could not believe I was a KR. I responded to him that I appreciated the compliment and now he knows where the Glasair design derived from. Thank God my KR does not cost as much as a Glasair. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:04:51 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Taxi testing yesterday. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050310.110510.11826.125512@webmail17.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain My KR has often times been confused with a Glassair I TD, even when I used to fly around with a Glassair I TD. They look so similar. It was almost 8 years ago that my KR became one of the earlier -2S KRs to fly, although since mine was started prior to the release of the -2S supplements it does not have all of the changes incorporated. It was decidedly unpopular among the old guard at the '97 Gathering as it was too big and didn't look like a KR. It was refered to as "Big Bird" or "that big plane". Jeannette made a point to walk around it and tell me everything she didn't like about it before telling me she really preferred the little KRs like Ken's. The attitude change over the last several years has been interesting. BTW, my KR ticked over 500 hours on the airframe last weekend while flying home from the Casa Grande Fly-In near Phoenix (where it was still repeated called a Glassair). :o) -Jeff Scott N1213W A couple of photos from last weekend in Phoenix: http://www.vla.com/jscott/imag0012.jpg http://www.vla.com/jscott/imag0062.jpg -- Mark Jones wrote: I was doing a little taxi testing yesterday after work and there was a Cessna 172 doing pattern work. He saw me out on the runway and called me saying "28U to the white Glasair doing taxi runs, copy?" Well, there was no one else on the airport so I knew he was calling me. Basically he was just wanting to talk to someone and when he responded back, he commented to me "that sure is a nice looking Glasair". Well I responded telling him I am a KR and not a Glasair. He was amazed and could not believe I was a KR. I responded to him that I appreciated the compliment and now he knows where the Glasair design derived from. Thank God my KR does not cost as much as a Glasair. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:45:19 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: KR> KR Cowl on eBay To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005b01c525ba$74af2fb0$6501a8c0@charlesmidkiff> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original If anyone is interested, there is a KR cowl on eBay. The starting bid is $99.00. The item number is 4533596872 . http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533596872&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:30:32 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Taxi testing yesterday. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4230CA88.000003.03216@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: My KR has often times been confused with a Glassair I TD, even when I used to fly around with a Glassair I TD. They look so similar. Many years ago when few people knew that there was such a thing as a KR, I was in the pattern and had just turned base when I heard over the unicom, something like, 165Bravo on downwind behind the Cherokee. Man was he in for a shock. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:07:59 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050310170759.00831470@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It was decidedly unpopular among the old guard at the '97 Gathering as it was too big and didn't look like a KR. It was refered to as "Big Bird" or "that big plane". Jeannette made a point to walk around it and tell me everything she didn't like about it before telling me she really preferred the little KRs like Ken's. The attitude change over the last several years has been interesting. >-Jeff Scott ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= My KR and Jeff's are very similar in size and I have nothing but admiration for anyone that completes a KR of any size. The only ride I was able to give at last years Gathering was to Willie Wilson from England. His comment after the flight was " my KR was the best he's ever flown with two people on board". Anyone that doesn't like the 2S or our longer then "2S" models obviously hasn't flown one. Many people ask if mine is a Glassair when they first see it because I have the rear windows in the baggage area. You must realize that probably half the people flying airplanes today have never seen a KR2 or even know that they exist. We'll just have to try harder to educate the uninformed. On a sadder note, it is with a great deal of sorrow that I inform you that the unoffical "offical Gathering photo ship" has been sold. I expect to close on the deal Monday. The trusty Tripacer, 2917P, has made most of the Gatherings since 1998 and was the platform for many of the awesome air-to-air photos taken of KR's in flight including the three ship formation photo taken at Red Oak. It will be moving just two doors down from it's present hangar so I will be able to see it from time to time and maybe even get to go for a ride once in a while. I'd best close before my teardrops short out the keyboard. I bet there's a country song in there somewhere. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:10:35 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Taxi testing yesterday. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The controllers at my airport used to always refer to me as "a very small experimental" when they were calling me out to other traffic. I finally got them to refer to me as "a very fast experimental" instead. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:31 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Taxi testing yesterday. RE: My KR has often times been confused with a Glassair I TD, even when I used to fly around with a Glassair I TD. They look so similar. Many years ago when few people knew that there was such a thing as a KR, I was in the pattern and had just turned base when I heard over the unicom, something like, 165Bravo on downwind behind the Cherokee. Man was he in for a shock. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:12:46 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Going to be fun seeing Langford hang off the bottom of your landing gear with his camera next year. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:08 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer It was decidedly unpopular among the old guard at the '97 Gathering as it was too big and didn't look like a KR. It was refered to as "Big Bird" or "that big plane". Jeannette made a point to walk around it and tell me everything she didn't like about it before telling me she really preferred the little KRs like Ken's. The attitude change over the last several years has been interesting. >-Jeff Scott ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= My KR and Jeff's are very similar in size and I have nothing but admiration for anyone that completes a KR of any size. The only ride I was able to give at last years Gathering was to Willie Wilson from England. His comment after the flight was " my KR was the best he's ever flown with two people on board". Anyone that doesn't like the 2S or our longer then "2S" models obviously hasn't flown one. Many people ask if mine is a Glassair when they first see it because I have the rear windows in the baggage area. You must realize that probably half the people flying airplanes today have never seen a KR2 or even know that they exist. We'll just have to try harder to educate the uninformed. On a sadder note, it is with a great deal of sorrow that I inform you that the unoffical "offical Gathering photo ship" has been sold. I expect to close on the deal Monday. The trusty Tripacer, 2917P, has made most of the Gatherings since 1998 and was the platform for many of the awesome air-to-air photos taken of KR's in flight including the three ship formation photo taken at Red Oak. It will be moving just two doors down from it's present hangar so I will be able to see it from time to time and maybe even get to go for a ride once in a while. I'd best close before my teardrops short out the keyboard. I bet there's a country song in there somewhere. :-) Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:07:01 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011301c525c5$de763140$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I hope Mark Langfords plane is one of those being photographed at next years gathering. > Going to be fun seeing Langford hang off the bottom of your landing > gear with his camera next year. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:15:24 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> fast experimental To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050310171524.00830880@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >The controllers at my airport used to always refer to me as "a very >small experimental" when they were calling me out to other traffic. I >finally got them to refer to me as "a very fast experimental" instead. >Brian Kraut +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I recall reading somewhere that you should identify yourself as either a "fast" or "slow" "experimental" as well as the model and N number but I never hear anyone doing so. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:20:09 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: RE: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050310172009.007d1c70@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:12 PM 3/10/05 -0500, you wrote: >Going to be fun seeing Langford hang off the bottom of your landing >gear with his camera next year. Brian Kraut ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Anyone have time to build a droptank with a glass nose? I could carry him under the belly and then drop him in the lake next to the camp site at the end of the flight! YEEEEE HAAAAAAA ! How many day till the Gathering???????? Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:52:34 -0500 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050310.185235.-475503.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Anyone have time to build a droptank with a glass nose? I could carry > him under the belly and then drop him in the lake next to the camp > site at the end of the flight! YEEEEE HAAAAAAA ! > > How many day till the Gathering???????? > > Larry Flesner Larry, I'm not sure that he is going to like that. But then again a lot of dark soda does funny things to grown men. Joe ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:35:59 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR>How many days??? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003d01c525d2$53326a60$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 183 days till the Gathering. You guys better start packing so you will not be late. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: RE: KR> longer/bigger KR's / Tripacer > At 06:12 PM 3/10/05 -0500, you wrote: > >Going to be fun seeing Langford hang off the bottom of your landing > >gear with his camera next year. Brian Kraut > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Anyone have time to build a droptank with a glass nose? I could > carry him under the belly and then drop him in the lake next to > the camp site at the end of the flight! YEEEEE HAAAAAAA ! > > How many day till the Gathering???????? > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:43:42 -0800 (PST) From: William Jeffries Subject: KR> Wood To: krnet Message-ID: <20050311004342.83274.qmail@web90106.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Netters: Has anyone used any wood species besides sitka spruce. Since every thing on the fuselage is laminated in fiberglass I would think the strength would be there. The spar is another story which I accept. Thanks, Bill Jeffries __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:45:57 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> 183 days till the Gathering. You guys better start packing so you will not be late. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4230EA45.000005.02052@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, I just packed the engine onto the plane on some temporary 2" spacers while Jerry gets the permanent ones made. Tomorrow, I start fitting and glassing the mods to the cowling. I will be getting my medical next week and my check ride at the end of the month in wild anticipation of the most frightening ride that anyone can ever take. Actually, it only scares you to death at two points, just before full throttle and just before idle. Everything else is a piece of cake. I just hope this engine still runs. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:58:02 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> 183 days till the Gathering. You guys better start packing soyou will not be late. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <025801c525d5$62773b10$88d0fea9@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Actually I was surprisingly calm for the first flight. The second flight was a different story. Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Heath I will be getting my medical next week and my check ride at the end of the month in wild anticipation of the most frightening ride that anyone can ever take. Actually, it only scares you to death at two points, just before full throttle and just before idle. Everything else is a piece of cake. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:47:26 +1100 From: Bavo Subject: Re: KR> Wood To: KRnet Message-ID: <830558f90503101747312abf38@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Getting hold of quality Spruce at this end of the world is tricky and expensive. The Australian Standard Specification for Aircraft Material (1944) "Australian Timbers for use as substitutes for Sitka Spruce" tells us about other usable timbers. It certainly does not say "lesser quality than spruce", so you may have some confidence in them. • Hoop Pine • Queensland Maple • Bollywood • Silver Quandong • Silver Silkwood • Bunya Pine Also known to have been widely used in the past are Oregon or Douglas Fir, and Klinki Pine from PNG I'm planning on using Hoop Pine from Queensland, but I'm not sure how useful that is to you. (Maybe as good as Spruce is for me?) On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:43:42 -0800 (PST), William Jeffries wrote: > Hi Netters: > > Has anyone used any wood species besides sitka spruce. > Since every thing on the fuselage is laminated in > fiberglass I would think the strength would be there. > The spar is another story which I accept. > > Thanks, Bill Jeffries > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:34:11 -0500 (EST) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> wood To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050311043411.23467.qmail@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know about Ausie wood but I built my horizontal stab., elevator using Doug fir for my spars. It was nice vertical straight grain stuff with no imperfections, as stated in a previous chat is perfectly acceptable aircraft wood. And then there's the lamination thing but I don't want to start anything. Don Chisholm ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 98 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================